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    GOP, Democrats ready rival emergency debt plans

    WASHINGTON (AP) — With bipartisan debt-limit talks deadlocked, House Republicans and Senate Democrats readied rival emergency fallback plans Sunday in hopes of reassuring world financial markets the U.S. government will avoid an unprecedented default.

    In a conference call, Speaker John Boehner summoned his conservative rank and file to swing behind a "new measure" that could clear both houses of Congress.

    "It won't be 'Cut, Cap and Balance' as we passed it," he said, referring to a measure — killed in the Senate on Friday — that would have required spending cuts of an estimated $6 trillion as well as congressional approval of a constitutional balanced budget amendment for ratification by the states.

    The new approach is "going to require some of you to make some sacrifices," he added, according to a person familiar with his remarks.

    Separately, President Barack Obama invited the two top congressional Democrats to a highly unusual White House meeting Sunday evening.

    One of them, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, was at work on a Democratic fallback measure, too.

    Without congressional action by Aug. 2, the Treasury will be unable to pay all its bills, risking a default that could have severe consequences for the U.S. economy and the world's, too.

    Details of the rival plans were sketchy.

    Republican officials said Boehner envisioned an increase in the nation's debt limit by $1 trillion and slightly more than that in federal spending cuts, with the promise of additional progress on both sides of the ledger if Congress could agree.

    Democratic officials said Reid was at work on legislation to raise the government's debt limit by $2.4 trillion — enough to assure no recurrence of the current crisis until 2013 — and reduce spending by slightly more.

    They said that plan envisioned no higher taxes.

    Administration officials have stopped just short of promising to veto the approach Boehner outlined. Obama has also said for months any bill must include higher revenue.

    The White House was largely consigned to a spectator's role on a weekend that began with Boehner's decision to call off talks with Obama.

    But the president in the early evening began talks with Reid, House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi and Vice President Joe Biden in the Oval Office.

    Asked earlier what the administration's plan was to avoid default, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said, "Our plan is to get Congress to raise the debt ceiling on time."

    The state of play veered between bipartisanship and brinkmanship on an issue of immense economic consequences.

    Despite hours of compromise talks in the Capitol, lawmakers' aides had so far been unable to agree on a two-step plan that would satisfy Obama's demand for a large enough increase in the debt limit to tide the Treasury over until after the 2012 elections.

    Interviewed on Fox, Boehner said, "I would prefer to have a bipartisan approach to solve this problem. If that is not possible, I and my Republican colleagues in the House are prepared to move on our own."

    He arranged to brief the Republican rank and file on a conference call late in the day.

    It was unclear when Reid would disclose details of his own plan.

    The officials who described the rival fallback plans spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the sensitivity of the issue.

    Boehner's plan, still under negotiation on Capitol Hill, is intended to get the nation beyond this crisis and snag enough votes from House Republicans who won't raise the debt limit without spending cuts, too.

    Deeper and more complex reductions in the nation's deficits would be part of the deal, but under later timelines.

    White House chief of staff William Daley said Obama was insisting that any package must expand the debt ceiling beyond the next presidential and congressional elections and into 2013 to provide economic certainty. Daley said anything short of that would be a gimmick and prompt the world to say: "These people just can't get their act together."

    White House and congressional leaders talked past each other on the Sunday TV shows as negotiations unfolded in secrecy.

    "There will be a two-stage process. It's just not physically possible to do all of this in one step," Boehner said. "I know the president is worried about his next election. But, my God, shouldn't he be worried about the country?"

    Republican leaders called their rank and file back to Washington earlier than expected for the new work week and set a mid-afternoon Monday meeting to go over the debt-limit legislation.

    With an eye on the financial markets, Geithner insisted anew the United States would not default.

    "It's just unthinkable," Geithner said. "We never do that. It's not going to happen."

    The debt deal-making has consumed Washington for weeks and has put on display a government that at times risks utter dysfunction.

    Even after talks about between Obama and Boehner broke down in spectacular fashion Friday, Geithner said the two men were still negotiating.

    He also suggested the ambitious framework the two leaders had discussed, targeting a deficit reduction of $4 trillion, remained under consideration.

    "I don't know. It may be pretty hard to put Humpty Dumpty back together again," Boehner said of that grand plan. "But my last offer is still out there. I have never taken my last offer off of the table and they never agreed to my last offer."

    That last offer included $800 billion in new tax revenues as part of a broad overhaul that would lower tax rates. Obama wanted $400 billion more in tax revenue for deficit reduction to help balance out the spending cuts. Or, if not that, a reduction in some of the proposed cuts being discussed to entitlement programs such as Medicare.

    The talks halted primarily over that issue and over how to ensure that both parties kept their reform promises in the months ahead.

    Any plan must get through the Democratic-run Senate, where Majority Leader Reid has called a short-term debt limit expansion unacceptable.

    Obama's role looms, too.

    Asked if Obama would veto a plan that did not extend the government's borrowing authority into 2013, Daley said, "Yes."

    Under any scenario, Washington's leaders have run themselves almost out of time.

    It will take days to move legislation through Congress. A default could cause catastrophic damage to the standing and the economy of the United States.

    Daley said, in fact, the consequences are already taking hold.

    "I don't think there's any question there's been enormous damage done to our creditworthiness around the world," Daley said.

    Boehner appeared on "Fox News Sunday." Geithner was on Fox, ABC's "This Week" and CNN's "State of the Union." Daley and Coburn spoke on NBC's "Meet the Press," and Daley also appeared on CBS' "Face the Nation."

    ___

    Associated Press writers David Espo, Alan Fram and Nedra Pickler contributed to this report.

     

    9,006 comments

    • Carlton  •  10 mths ago
      When are we all going to stop making snyde comments about these idiots in Washington and finally DO SOMETHING about them?!!!! The American People need to reclaim this country and accept the responsibility that the government is what it is because WE have allowed it to become that way. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      • Kc 10 mths ago
        What are we suppose to do. If we rebel theyll just send the army in thatll last about 10 minutes. We cant vote them out cause some other jackass will take over. So no matter what we do were screwed.
      • A Yahoo! User 10 mths ago
        I'm reminded of a sarcastic Onion editorial entitled "Someone should really do something about all the problems"
      • Bill Murray 10 mths ago
        Vote in a douche or a turd...you want to DO something? Like what, throw a flaming molotov? Go ahead I'm right behind you...
    • Smoothdaddy7  •  10 mths ago
      They work for us, and i say we should come together in unity, and fire them all
      for poor management and leadership. We the american people are fed up with the
      foolishness and your performance is totally unacceptable.
      • Iron Man 10 mths ago
        Smoothdaddy Who did you vote for in the Presidental election?
      • Superman Foru 10 mths ago
        Iron Man that's non of your business. He didn't ask you did you vote for Bush twice just to fruck up our Country this bad! Smoothdaddy7 whom ever you voted for it was your right just as it was Iron Mans.... he is doing the same thing these no good politicians are doing in Washington in House, holding anyone hostage just to keep the rich man rich!!
      • A Yahoo! User 10 mths ago
        Unfortunately you nailed it whenyouu said "we should come together in unity" .. there is no unity anymore. not in the states or this country or in the world.. pity...
    • A Yahoo! User  •  10 mths ago
      ALL OF THOSE WE PUT IN WASHINGTON IS TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET,BUT NOT ONE SAID THEY WOULD TAKE A PAY CUT NOR A FREEZE ON THEIR SALARY..WAKE UP AMERICA WE NEED TO PUT TERMS ON ALL OF THEM AS WE FOR THE PRESIDENTS........
      • WashOre11 10 mths ago
        Especially obama whose only concern is his 2012 re-election at the cost of America defaulting , what a real criminal politician
      • Here's Johnny 10 mths ago
        Yep u are correct. However, I would guess that term limits is something that THEY would have to vote in....
      • Tyrone 10 mths ago
        The downcasters are probably welfare suckers living in section 8 housing
    • RicardoC  •  10 mths ago
      What would happen if 10 Million of us march to the Capitol and stay there until they do us justice? This is going to have to been done so that our Nation will be "One Nation Under God" and not "One Nation Under Hoodlums" as it seems!
      • COACH T 10 mths ago
        They would probably call in NATO and bomb us all. Don't give a darn about the people.
      • knowitall 10 mths ago
        it won't happen Americans are too busy playing wii and play station to give a crap or fight for that matter
      • knowitall 10 mths ago
        Americans want things handed to them for free, too much work to fight for it we just want to be lazy.
    • Sol DuRorr  •  10 mths ago
      How dare these idiots (all of them) play a suicidal game of chicken with countrys' future. We the people people, should make them pay for this. The right, the left. It doesn't matter what party they're from. They should all go jail!
      • rubeN 10 mths ago
        its in the constitution that if we need to abolish government if it don't work.
      • BrendaR 10 mths ago
        It will work if we get those idiots out. WHY did we put them in there? I'm sick of them playing games and doing nothing. We're getting them richer and more powerful and for what? TO PLAY CHICKEN ON THE RAILROAD TRACKS?
      • TREVOR 10 mths ago
        Democracies are representative of the average person. For example, if the average American is bad with money then the government will have to make financially stupid decisions since all their constituents care about what they get today not what you will pay tomorrow. In the origional constitution only people who contribute (land owners) could vote. That makes more sense to me than anything. Only people who pay taxes should vote. 54% of Americans pay no taxes. So I say only 46% should be able to vote.
    • Smoothdaddy7  •  10 mths ago
      Frankly speaking, i don't trust any politician, just pay attention to all of our infrastructure,
      they take our hard earn tax dollars and won't even repair bridges and roads, making
      traveling very unsafe and putting our life at risk with no regards for our safety.
    • Smoothdaddy7  •  10 mths ago
      I ask myself who are the real terrorist, pimping the whole country with economic
      slavery, this debt ceiling is all a big manipulating plan to steal more tax dollars
      from the american people. Now you really know these greedy fools. Come
      election time we need new honorable representation.
    • yea_right  •  10 mths ago
      Henry Paulson paid $0 in tax on over 9 billion dollars. Now, what was that about the rish paying to much in taxes?
    • Bradley  •  10 mths ago
      I am SICK & TIRED OF BACK ROOM DEALS. What happened to this country and TRANSPARENCY!?!
    • A Yahoo! User  •  10 mths ago
      “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.”

      Patrick Henry
    • eyr2247  •  10 mths ago
      WE DON'T WANT ANY CAREER POLITICIANS OUT THERE, 2 TERMS FOR EVERYBODY. AND EVERYBODY SHOULD BE ON OUR SOCIAL SECURITY NO SPECIAL PREVILIGE FOR THESE POLITICIAN NO LIFE TIME FOR THESE PEOPLE WHEN THEY LEAVE OFFICE.
    • arklittlesis  •  10 mths ago
      I dont see the government cutting back on their million airplanes ,houses and vacations that we pay for, i dont see them cutting their paycheck in half. people that draw ssi need that check every month with out it they will be homeless and hungrey, we pay it in on our checks,we deserve to get it back
    • AMERICAN SEABEE  •  10 mths ago
      YOU ARE ALL SUPPOSED TO BE EDUCATED PEOPLE SWORN BY OATH TO DO FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, NOT FOR YOURSELVES... WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING WITH YOU FOOLS???
    • Phil  •  10 mths ago
      I heard on the radio today that they sent $500 MILLION of tax paying dollars TO EGYPT to repair the sewers. if this is true talk about wasting our hard earned money.
    • John Smith  •  10 mths ago
      I think the voters should have a plan next november, VOTE THEM ALL OUT.
    • CupidsPoint.com  •  10 mths ago
      Its amazing that Washington expects us to cut our entitlements and still expect us to give money to Pakistan and Mexico. Most absurd #$%$ thing I've ever heard.
    • alex  •  10 mths ago
      regardless of the outcome...this is pathetic
    • Shellie  •  10 mths ago
      Let's tax the crooks who have made a killing while everyone else struggles. Lets end pensions for Politicians, and take away their free lifetime benefits.
    • WeRdoomed  •  10 mths ago
      Our "public servants" never take a pay cut or lose benefits. Vote them all out and start over !
    • C  •  10 mths ago
      I'm so tired of Congress fighting and not getting anything done. For them, it's not about what's best for the country; it's about how can we hurt the other political party. They need to wake up and realize its their job to make things better for us, the people, not themselves.
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