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    Greece: will get loans in time to avoid default

    BERLIN (AP) — Greece will receive its next batch of bailout loans in time to avoid a disastrous default, the finance minister said Tuesday, as stock markets rallied on hopes that the prime minister will discuss new ways of solving the crisis with Germany's leader later in the day.

    Reports that European leaders are considering bolder moves to relieve Greece and other countries of their debt burden have buoyed spirits in financial markets, though officials in Chancellor Angela Merkel's government have downplayed such speculation.

    The current plan is to have Greece implement painful debt-reduction measures in exchange for rescue loans.

    Greece's international creditors are holding up payment of the next batch of those loans until a review of the reforms is completed in the coming days. Without the money, Greece faces bankruptcy in mid-October, potentially sending shock waves through the financial sector in Europe and abroad.

    "I am very confident in ... the disbursement of the sixth tranche," Finance Minister Evangelos Venizelos said, speaking above the sound of chanting from protesting tax office workers outside the ministry, who blew whistles and set off a fake siren. "But we must do what has been agreed."

    The minister said the country had already made great efforts to achieve its fiscal targets, but that a "hyper-effort" was necessary to fully meet its commitments.

    Some experts, however, say the current course of austerity is untenable and that Greece will need bigger debt relief. Analysts say that could be achieved by imposing tougher losses on private bondholders, boosting capital in European banks that would take such losses, and increasing the size of the rescue fund.

    Greece had originally expected debt inspectors from the International Monetary Fund, the European Central Bank and the European Commission to complete a review of its finances in September and approve the sixth installment of loans from its euro110 billion ($149 billion) bailout.

    But the inspectors, known collectively as the troika, suspended their review earlier this month amid talk of missed targets.

    Venizelos said the troika would return to Athens this week, and that the next bailout installment, worth euro8 billion ($10.8 billion), would be paid out in time.

    In Berlin, Greek premier George Papandreou told a conference of the Federation of German Industries that "we are borrowing to repay" — but also stressed that Europe needs to show it can get its act together.

    "I can guarantee that Greece will live up to all its commitments," Papandreou said ahead of an evening meeting with Chancellor Angela Merkel. He promised that Greeks will "fight our way back to growth and prosperity."

    The government recently announced new debt-reducing measures, including pension cuts and tax hikes, fueling outrage among Greeks who have suffered through a year of austerity. Lawmakers are to vote Tuesday night on a new property tax.

    Unions have responded with repeated strikes and protests. Public transport workers walked off the job Tuesday for two days, and were to be joined by taxi drivers on Wednesday. Tax office workers were also on strike.

    Given the sacrifices being made by ordinary Greeks, Papandreou said that the "persistent criticisms leveled against Greece are deeply frustrating."

    "You as businesspeople, you know that inspiration, innovation and motivation are important parts of success," he told representatives of Germany's leading industries. "If people feel only punishment and scorn, this crisis will not become an opportunity — it will become a lost cause."

    He added that Europe needs to prove it can get its act together. Germany, Europe's biggest economy, has been a sometimes-reluctant leader of the rescue efforts.

    "We must prove to the markets that we have a firm grip on the debt crisis and that we are determined to resolve it together," he said.

    Merkel, also speaking at the industry forum, pledged support for Greece but didn't promise any specific new measures. She expressed "absolute respect" for structural reforms pushed through by Papandreou's government.

    "The all-important thing is — and we will provide every assistance that is wanted from the German side — that Greece wins back confidence; that we get out of this terrible development that there is bad news every month; and that the impression arises on the markets that Greece is on the right track," she said.

    Merkel said Germany would do what it can, whether through private industry or government efforts.

    However, she once again rejected the idea of pooling European countries' debt — for example by issuing joint so-called eurobonds. And she said Germany is "not available" for further economic stimulus programs.

    On Thursday, Germany's parliament is to vote on beefing up the powers and lending capacity of the eurozone's euro440 billion ($595 billion) rescue fund — a facility that already has intervened to help Ireland and Portugal.

    German officials, facing distaste within Merkel's center-right coalition at the idea of endless bailouts, have sought to cool down expectations of further increases anytime soon.

    Spanish Finance Minister Elena Salgado denied market speculation that the European Union is considering raising the size of the fund to euro2 trillion ($2.7 trillion) — saying in a television interview that "it is not on the table, nor has it been discussed."

    ___

    Elena Becatoros reported from Athens, Greece. Derek Gatopoulos in Athens contributed.

     

    442 comments

    • Earl  •  8 mths ago
      This is a classic illustration on how borrowed money and deficit spending blew out of proportions. 146 billion Euro is a lot of rescue money. Serious reforms should have been initiated when it was still 30 billion. Other indebted countries who follows Greece's path may not be getting the same aid Greece had. For one, this type of humongous rescue packages cannot be sustained without straining the "rescuing countries" economy. Stringent measures should be adopted on countries in danger on another bailout. Portugal, Spain, Ireland, and Italy, has to take drastic measures now or regret it later.
      • Nels 8 mths ago
        Why is Obama and his liberal colleagues borrowing 40 cents for every dollar they spend??? .... Wonder why Obama has a debt problem???
      • A Yahoo! User 8 mths ago
        and you think a one world government isn't on the table with the major central banks. Think again, the IMF and World Bank are already in place, just waiting for the right moment to say hurry up everyone vote this central bank into control to save the world from crisis we have to have a one world currency. The beginning of the end.
      • FORGIVENBADBOY 8 mths ago
        ever ask yourself who does everybody owe
        who holds notes or debt owed for trillions & trillions of dollars ?
    • G.W.  •  8 mths ago
      Let them fail NOW. Ripping the bandaid off slowly is ALWAYS more painful.
      They have been on the brink for years now but they STILL aren't making any reforms in their UNIONS. What makes you think that they will now?
      • DE 8 mths ago
        We're next.
      • G-Man 8 mths ago
        Hey G.W. What the hell made you think that Afghanistan could be lifted out of the stone age.Forget it. Go bomb the #$%$ who funded 911...the Saudi royal family. Kill all those worthless little neanderthals and do the rest of the world a grand scale favor. By the way...defending the Georgian republic against Russia is a waste of time or are you not really George?
      • G-Man 8 mths ago
        If you're really G.W., I met your Dad. He must have spared the rod and spoiled the child eh?
    • lrh  •  8 mths ago
      there was a recent report in the ny daily news that there is a sharp rise of people in ny in the poverty level, they quoted a woman, age 22, complaining about the shelter space for her and her 4 children, while never asking her about her plans, which i assume was to hit the lottery or marry tom cruise-there are now 2.8 million people in nyc that are on medicaid, medical care paid by the gov't- and every gov't worker is demanding a raise in pay and benefits- america will be in the position of greece in 5-10 years
    • DE  •  8 mths ago
      Entire countries being pawned. What's the world coming to? We're going backward 2000 years.
      • Jim 8 mths ago
        It's all leading toward world wide Communism and a New World Order.
      • sBleve 8 mths ago
        Perhaps Lenin did win a war. The world dominated by central control kingdom management took a nose dive in 1787. There has been a concerted effort to de-fang that '87 leap forward of 5000 years of the then world common central management rule.
      • FORGIVENBADBOY 8 mths ago
        Pawned to who ?
        who's the people that the world owes over 100 trillion dollars to
    • tufluv  •  8 mths ago
      Greece just needs to ask Obama for money. He's had practice at lending a half BILLION American tax dollars to Solyndra just before it went bankrupt. What's a few BILLION more to Greece before it goes bankrupt?
      • stick with the facts 8 mths ago
        Bad as that is, he did not spend 2-3 trillion in stupid wars.
      • gblwrmr 8 mths ago
        stick that is true but He is still fighting them. the f'n a hole
      • John H 8 mths ago
        Stick, so we should just let people attack us? I'd rather spend it on wars than the 5 billion Obama has squandered on NOTHING!
    • IamHugh  •  8 mths ago
      Loans don't pay for loans.
    • Paul  •  8 mths ago
      borrow yourself out of debt, never has worked before in history
    • Dash Riprock  •  8 mths ago
      Europe is going down the drain. We will quickly follow. China will rule the Word sooner than expected.
    • Birdman  •  8 mths ago
      Isn't this like robbing Peter to pay Paul??
    • todd h  •  8 mths ago
      Just enough to buy time for the European banks to increase their capitol requirements in hopes of building a "firewall" when they do eventually default relatively soon. But what about Italy and Spain? Geez. Now do you see why Geitner is behaving hysterically. This malinvestment comes manyfold all the way back to Goldman. "Let's margin it" he says. That is all these guys know. Keep they pyramid going because in reality, they are dependent on keeping societies enslaved through debt instruments. Look the only way we can stop the skim and end the corruption is to let these instruments find their true value. Which is close to zero. Those in control are not. True wealth lies with the masses in title and ownership to tangible assets which are real. Will the transition be hard? Of course. But temporary and will lay the groundwork for a new era of prosperity. We all have to eat, get to work, wipe our buttocks and keep a roof over our heads. The volume and velocity of exchange will continue among oursleves, abscent of the private banks that promote the notion that we need them. We need oursleves only. Imagine if the skim was stopped and you could borrow money from the Federal Reserve at .5% like the member banks do and we paid interest back to ourselves and back into the treasure. Do you realiize how much the US could grow? Literally boundless. I should be the one running for President. I swear sometimes.
    • PartOfThe99  •  8 mths ago
      More loans...no way to pay them off...and we expect WHAT, exactly?

      Only in the land of politicians could we believe that spending more than we have is the way to REDUCE debt!
    • RAZOR  •  8 mths ago
      Kick the can down the road, same old story. They cannot pay back the loans.
    • Wags  •  8 mths ago
      Just default and get it over with.
    • Changling  •  8 mths ago
      Greece just needs to spend more and not worry about debt. Watch and learn how we Americans handle financial crises. Spend baby spend. There is no tomorrow!
    • ken  •  8 mths ago
      Imagine that. The unions are fighting Greece's effort to remain solvent.
    • H.Fridays  •  8 mths ago
      yea right, who want to take their risk to already collapsed Greece today. It is not a fall of Greece, it is already fell dead and dirt Greece..
    • Left is Wrong  •  8 mths ago
      OK, but did he say how they intend on paying back the LOANS!
      Let me guess, Obama will loan them the money to pay back their loan!!!
    • Tony M  •  8 mths ago
      Greece is more of a tourism country than big job firms. Its more of a country for tourist to go on vacations there not for work cause they have no big job firms. Greece is a beautiful country with lots of history and they have beautiful beaches, but only problem is that they can't create big jobs. USA is also looking like Greece which its becoming more of a tourism country than big job firms.
    • We apologize an error has ...  •  8 mths ago
      So what? Greece will still be a house of cards just like so many other countries including the U.S. What's with this just borrow more money and everything is well?
    • Jim  •  8 mths ago
      Declare bankruptcy already, the game is over!
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