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    Grover Norquist Gives Green Light to Tax Revenue Increase?

    Debt Ceiling Negotiations Are Chaotic, but Taxes Being on the Table Could Provide a Solution -- Maybe

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    ANALYSIS | In a Washington Post interview published Wednesday, conservative strategist and tax reform lobbyist Grover Norquist may have given Republican lawmakers the leeway they need to cut a deal in the debt ceiling talks that would be popular with most Americans. He told the Post's editorial board that allowing the Bush tax breaks to expire was not technically a violation of the pledge that an overwhelming majority of Congressional Republicans have signed since taking office -- that of never supporting or voting for a tax increase. But then he said that his powerful tax reform organization would not support such a move. Some see his words as a way out of the debt ceiling impasse, but it may not be so simple.

    "Not continuing a tax cut is not technically a tax increase," Grover Norquist, leader of the Americans for Tax Reform, said. Asked if it was a violation of the pledge, he stated: "We wouldn't hold it that way."

    But when House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-MD) read Norquist's words in a press conference at the Capitol and suggested that House Republicans consider those statements, Norquist clarified his stance on MSNBC.

    "There are certain things you can do technically and not violate the pledge but that the general public would clearly understand is a tax increase. So I can be clear, Americans for Tax Reform would oppose any effort to weaken, reduce or not continue the 2001-2003 Bush tax cuts."

    He told MSNBC that Hoyer was "wrong." He said, " The answer is, the people who have made this commitment not to raise taxes have made it clear they are not raising taxes, and [House Speaker John] Boehner and other the other Republicans have said that independent of the pledge."

    So what exactly was Grover Norquist trying to get across? Simply that allowing the Bush tax breaks to expire would not violate the terms of the pledge that he has had Republicans signing for 25 years. Technically speaking, the taxes already exist, and as some have previously pointed out , the re-establishing of the taxes is not an increase, just an elimination of the break that allows taxpayers to pay less in taxes.

    But Norquist also wants it understood that his organization does not agree with tax increases of any kind, regardless of the technicality. In short, Norquist told Republicans that allowing the Bush tax breaks to expire or doing anything to weaken them would not be supported by his tax reform group -- but they could do so at their own risk.

    In Republican Party circles, especially now with the added pressure of the anti-taxation Tea Party movement, being seen as a politician who would renege on a tax cut pledge could have devastating consequences, both in future dealings with conservative lawmakers and with reelection financial support and campaigning (not to mention actual reelection support from the electorate). Allowing tax breaks to be considered in the negotiations for raising the debt ceiling could prove a dangerous gamble for many legislators.

    But Americans overall believe that revenue or tax increases should be considered alongside the massive spending cuts being demanded by Republicans. And most Americans, including a majority of Republicans, believe that GOP lawmakers are being overly intransigent in the negotiations. At the same time, many realize that increased revenues would help offset drastic spending cuts, which is seen in poll responses where the debt ceiling is seen as something that needs to be raised but done without affecting Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare.

    Republicans face a difficult decision in the coming days as the deadline for an impending federal default on its loans and a government shutdown of nonessential services approaches. According to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, the government has been juggling and deferring payments since mid-May, when the legal limit for borrowing -- the debt ceiling -- was reached. August 2 is the last day that the government will be able to juggle its financial commitments. Decisions for discontinuing and postponing payments on government programs and services will have to be made, causing at least a temporary government shutdown.

     

    153 comments

    • Lewis  •  10 mths ago
      Treason? Who believes than lawmakers swear to uphold the Constitution, then sign a pledge to avoid responsible accountability?
    • Diane Martin  •  10 mths ago
      Who elected NORQUEST ? and to what position was he elected ?
      • JR 10 mths ago
        Court Jester. But he serves his masters very well. And they are satisfied. And, as far as they are concerned, your opinion is worthless.
    • RB  •  10 mths ago
      I thought the Representatives we elect and send to Washington are supposed to represent everyone in their state .... why is it the Republicans only represent Norquist and his group ... this is not fair to the rest of the people they represent.
      • oldboldgold 10 mths ago
        It seems more like treason. Norquist cofounded the Islamic Free Market Institute in 1998, which was linked to terrorist financing. In 2002, the U.S. Customs raided it and this led to two convictions. He owns the Republican Party? Treason, surely?
      • janie z 10 mths ago
        Somebody had better do something about this and since we are the voters/taxpayers it is time for us to act.
      • TR RINO 10 mths ago
        Their are enough Stupid people who vote against themselves to make sure the top 20% get all the breaks. That is what FOX, right wing radio, and the Tea Party is all about. To sell the lies to the Stupid.
    • LordPet  •  10 mths ago
      Who does the GOP owe it's allegiance to: Grover Norquist or the stars and stripes?
      • Harvey 10 mths ago
        Norquist. The GOP is guilty of treason.
    • Tim  •  10 mths ago
      Ronald McDonald gives green light to eat double cheese burgers? Later that day in a complete turn around stated “no burgers, chicken nuggets only." In response the Republican congress ate their own balls.
    • IfyouarentProgressingyour ...  •  10 mths ago
      So the entire Republican party is seeking permission from 1 guy on how to handle our countries economy. So should we just cut out the middle man, get rid of Congress and just ask this 1 guy what we are "allowed" to do?
      • Karen 10 mths ago
        BS. This is why lobbying needs to end. No tears please. These "organizations" that supposedly speak for the people are bogus.
      • A Yahoo! User 10 mths ago
        Each Congressman and Senator answer to only their constituents. If Obama would cut the 4 trillion of debt in 10 years Norquist would not have a leg to stand on.
    • Orion  •  10 mths ago
      If we had someone make prospective Jurors sign a pledge to never implement the Death Penalty, would that be interpeted as Judicial interferance or Prospective Juror Tampering?
      How can a private Citizen , Mr Norquist have prospective Elected Officials and even Elected Officials sign a pledge to support his Orginization when they are in fact supposed to be representing the Peopole of their States?
      IS THAT NOT A TAMPERING ISSUE IN THE FEDERAL POLITICAL SYSTEM?
      Some things never seem to change or make any sense at times.
      How can one man be so powerful as to call the shots for Elected Senators and Representatives of the US Government is beyone my imagination.
    • Gary  •  10 mths ago
      Strange I did not see Norquest on any ballet. Is it legal to bind any elected official to a contract we did not vote on. How can this man have such influence over our elected officials? Whey the hell do I even vote. They do what they want and not what they say. Maybe if our foreign aide checks bounce they will find some one else to take from. Time to arm yourselves, lets take back our country.
      • JR 10 mths ago
        Oh, Norquist has been dancing a very intricate ballet for decades. How can he have so much influence? Easy. Sign the pledge, or forget about donations from the money bags plutocrats who pretty much own this country hands down now.
      • DanP 10 mths ago
        norquist should be a ballarina , hes leading the GOP to dance little pirouettes.
        In such perfect synchronicity.
    • A Yahoo User  •  10 mths ago
      I wonder how many of the Republican / Tea Party members that have signed Grover Norquists' no tax pledge are aware that he is the co-founder of the Islamic Free Market Institute and that his wife is a Muslim?

      I wonder how many of them know that David Horowicz has proven Norquist has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist group?

      Remember, Bin Laden always said the terrorists would take down America economically, not by force. Grover Norquist is a key player in that forecast. Americans should always remember if the Republicans / Tea Party bring down America based on the tax pledge, that it was Grover Norquist that led the way!!

      Don't believe it, do a search.
    • KICK OUT TEA GOP  •  10 mths ago
      If the ignorant bible belt Evangelicals would go back to school and get and education, and read the history of America. Not one time in history have not each party raised the debt ceiling and taxes. Actually, taxes are the lowest since the 1930's. Taxes won't be raised on you. They are going after loopholes that give billionaires more billions. Do you get that tea bags or are you really that stupid or that much of a traitor to your fellow man, because in truth you are a racist regime against Obama.
    • josh  •  10 mths ago
      "but they could do so at their own risk." - Every body understands Grover Norquist represents the wealthy donors who fund the GOP. The thinly veiled threat, if you don't play ball our way, you will receive virtually no campaign funding or organizational support for your reelection. It is unbelievable that such blatant financial control of elected officials is tolerated. "Our goal is to shrink government to the size where we can drown it in a bathtub." - Grover Norquist. His stated goal is to defund the government to the point it's destruction would be easy to obtain. 41 senators, 236 House members and 1263 state legislators have signed his pledge. Apparently treason is very popular.
    • Having Fun  •  10 mths ago
      Since when does Norquist speak for me? He is not my elected official.
      Shut your gob lad!
    • chuckb  •  10 mths ago
      The allegiance these politicians only owe is the oath taken at the swearing in cermony upon election. they swear to uphold the constitution and for what it stands, Not special interest groups, they are elected by the people but bought by special interst powers upon taking office. Sickening isn't
    • SHIRLEY B  •  10 mths ago
      Seriously! One man controls the Republican Party! I knew they were UnAmerican, UnPatriotic, UnCaring, Self-Serving, Short Sighted, Mean Spirited with no new ideas, no new implementations, no new strategies and no new innovations. Now I know why. Republicans in the Congress don't think for themselves. This is far worse than I imagined! I thought their leader was karl Rove and Rush Limbaugh but not a Grover.
    • Casey Ess  •  10 mths ago
      Nobody voted for this guy but he is apparently running the country -- right off the cliff.
    • toddzen  •  10 mths ago
      Republicans signing a pledge and making allegiances to fanatics like Norquist is the most anti- American thing a politician can do. The Republican Party has become a cult that worships the rich. This "job creator" metaphor is so phony. Paul Ryan and Eric Cantor are ruthless thugs. The rich corporate CEO's are sucking up money and cutting as many jobs as they can to turn a profit. They will hire children in China before they give jobs to Americans. These rich parasites are sociopathic money addicts.
    • Tim  •  10 mths ago
      Irrefutable proof that Republican party are puppets
    • Jack  •  10 mths ago
      The American political system was designed to allow the wealthy to dominate everyone else!

      It's the overwhelming majority who haven't voted the Republicans into obscurity for what they did to the Middle Class who are the "Useful Idiots" that allow the Grover Norquists of the USA to effectively destroy Medicare and Social Security!
    • oldboldgold  •  10 mths ago
      The Constitution mentions Congress must pledge allegience to Grover Norquist... exactly where? What is he going to do about it? Pull their allowance?
    • J  •  10 mths ago
      If Democrats and Republicans like the Gang of six work together on a good tax reform plan and a good budget plan all this other petty #$%$ is irrelevent
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