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    High court dilemma: Can lie about medal be crime?

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Xavier Alvarez stood up at a public meeting and called himself a wounded war veteran who had received the top military award, the Medal of Honor. He was lying about his medal, his wounds and his military service, but he wasn't the first man to invent war exploits.

    He was, however, one of the first people prosecuted under a 2006 federal law aimed at curbing false claims of military valor.

    Concerns that the law improperly limits speech and turns people into criminals for things they say, rather than do, are at the heart of the Supreme Court's review of his case and the Stolen Valor Act.

    Veterans groups have come to the aid of the Obama administration, which calls the law a narrowly crafted effort to protect the system of military awards that was established during the Revolutionary War by Gen. George Washington. The high court will hear the case Wednesday, which is Washington's 280th birthday.

    "They're committing fraud. They're impersonating somebody else. They take on attributes of somebody else, attributes of a hero who served honorably," said Pam Sterner, whose college term paper calling for the law wound up in the hands of members of Congress. "When you do that, impersonating someone else, that's fraud, not freedom of speech."

    Civil liberties groups, writers, publishers and news media outlets, including The Associated Press, have told the justices they worry the law, and especially the administration's defense of it, could lead to more attempts by government to regulate speech.

    When he established military decorations in 1782, seven years before he was elected as the nation's first president, Washington himself also prescribed severe military punishment for soldiers who purported to be medal winners but weren't. Since then, many men have embellished their war records, and some have won special recognition.

    It long has been a federal crime to wear unearned medals, but mere claims of being decorated were beyond the reach of law enforcement.

    The House of Representatives has more than once voted to name a post office after men who claimed awards they never received. The Air Force named an award after a man who falsely claimed to have survived the Bataan Death March and been awarded the Silver Star in World War II. The Boxing Writers of America named its perseverance award after the late Pat Putnam of Sports Illustrated because of his made-up tale of surviving a Chinese prisoner of war camp in the Korean War and receiving a Navy Cross.

    The Stolen Valor Act aimed to solve that problem, and garnered significant support in Congress during a time of war.

    "The admiration and respect for the military increased dramatically after 9/11 and the false claims, as well," said Thomas A. Cottone Jr., a retired FBI agent who investigated phony award cases.

    Alvarez made his claims by way of introducing himself as an elected member of the Three Valleys Municipal Water District in Pomona, California. There is nothing to suggest that he received anything in exchange or that listeners especially believed him.

    Even Alvarez' lawyers acknowledged their client sometimes has trouble telling the truth. "Xavier Alvarez lied," they declare in the first sentence of their Supreme Court brief and go on to recount six separate lies in the next few lines.

    He lied when he claimed he played ice hockey for the Detroit Red Wings of the National Hockey League, married a Mexican starlet who made paparazzi swoon, was an engineer, rescued the American ambassador during the Iranian hostage crisis and was shot when he went back for the U.S. flag. Alvarez also lied, they said, when he talked about his military service.

    But the lies Alvarez told harmed no one, they said, so what he did couldn't be considered fraud.

    A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco struck down the law as an unconstitutional restraint on free speech and said the government might instead invest in an awards database that would make it harder for people to lay claim to medals they never won. Last month, the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Denver upheld the law in a separate case, saying the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution which guarantees freedom of speech does not always protect false statements.

    The issue might never have reached this stage if not for the efforts of Sterner, and her husband, Doug.

    He is a decorated Vietnam veteran who has made it his work in recent years to ensure that service members get the recognition they deserve and expose those who falsely claim acts of heroism under fire. Rather than wait for the government to act, Doug Sterner has entered nearly 100,000 award citations since the American Civil War (1861-1865) in his online database, including all 3,475 Medal of Honor winners in U.S. history. His archive is used by the Military Times newspapers, published by Gannett Co.

    Pam Sterner went back to school in her early 40s at Colorado State University in Pueblo, Colorado. In a political science course, she wrote a paper that grew out of her husband's frustrations over phony award claimants whose worst punishment was public embarrassment. That paper eventually led to the Stolen Valor Act.

    Doug Sterner's database did not save Rep. Jason Chaffetz, a Utah Republican, from some embarrassment when he invited cameras and reporters to watch him pin medals on an elderly Korean War veteran in June.

    The veteran, Myron Brown of Utah, said his Distinguished Service Cross and Silver Star were awarded belatedly, and he asked Chaffetz to present them to him publicly.

    After the ceremony took place, Sterner and others raised questions about the medals and the Pentagon confirmed to Chaffetz in December that they were not authentic.

    "Others have been burned by this. I have too, but I want to solve the problem," Chaffetz told the Salt Lake Tribune. He is planning a hearing of the House Oversight and Government Reform subcommittee he leads to explore creating a government-run awards database.

    ___

    Online:

    Military Times Hall of Valor database: http://militarytimes.com/citations-medals-awards

     
    • Marshall  •  Richmond, Virginia  •  3 mths ago
      Politicians should be held to the same standard.
      • Jim 3 mths ago
        just to be called a politician means your a lier
      • William 3 mths ago
        Politicians have no standards.
      • DOGMAN 3 mths ago
        Let's take on one set of liars at a time.
    • GREGG  •  Oglesby, Illinois  •  3 mths ago
      A real heroes don't brag.
      • Time 3 mths ago
        The REAL Heroes are dead. Semper Fi
      • oldman1 3 mths ago
        No Time i tough i new a man he was a bit older than i was and a friend he told me he was an X Marine but that was it and for the first 5 years of knowing this man i never went in his home we worked together and run around then one day i was wating on him he tells me to come in he would be a while and when i went in his house i was shocked he had a wall full of medals and awards a asked him why he never told me about any of this .and he said i wish i could forget all of it.his wife liked them up there.he would rather all that stuff as he called it be in a box under the bed or some where else.
      • Time 3 mths ago
        Oldman, thanx for your response. Those of us decorated for valor had the feeling that the true heroes were the ones that gave their lives, them and their Gold Star parents.
    • ScooterBum  •  Shelbyville, Indiana  •  3 mths ago
      Has anyone ever noticed that the people with the most war stories are the ones who never seen a day in a war zone? As a Viet Nam Veteran, I rarely ever hear felloNam Vets that talk about those times. The ones with the biggest mouths are the ones with the biggest lies.
      • Time 3 mths ago
        Scooter, it's worse than that. If you ask a Nam vet what he did he was a grunt. Was nobody in a support position?
      • Richard 3 mths ago
        I hear ya. My Oldest brother did a tour in Vietnam.. He rarely if ever talked about it... What he did in Vietnam went with him to his grave.
      • Dave 3 mths ago
        Its like the old saying goes, "If I have to explain, you still wouldnt understand." Also,"Unless you've been where I've been, and seen and done the things I have. You cant understand why I am, like I am." My father served two tours in Nam, to this day he wont speak about what he has seen and done. He still has the thousand yard stare.
    • Justin  •  Boston, Massachusetts  •  3 mths ago
      to all the real people in the military thank you for all you've done. And to the phonies i hope you choke on the lack of balls you been missing
      • Marty 3 mths ago
        +1
      • Calc 3 mths ago
        This is ridiculous. The so-called "stolen valor act" is nothing but an infringement of freedom of speech. If someone claims to have this military record or that, then its his 1st amendment right, while not in the service, that he can say it. Merely saying something like that isn't a crime. What makes it a crime is if one attempts to gain from that speech in some material manner. Therefore, existing laws are more than adequate to deal with people like that if need be, and that's one of the missions of the FBI and local law enforcement. So, this is merely another over reactionary law by idiotic, ignorant politicians, many of whom have never even been in the armed forces let alone in a war, to curry favor with voters.
      • WoofGM 3 mths ago
        @ Justin - Thank you..... @ Calc - You suck monkey balls !! Wish I had you in my old unit, you would not last 1 day you pansy.
    • Brian  •  Beaverton, Oregon  •  3 mths ago
      Rule of thumb among military vets, those who talk the most generally did the least.
      • Erv 3 mths ago
        Absolutely true from my experiences. A lot of civilians with no service do most of the talking and very few active or retired military even speak about awards. Should be made a crime.
      • bdmjumpman 3 mths ago
        Not always true, but usually true. I served in Afghanistan and I talk about my experience all the time. I am by far no hero, but I did deal with a lot of combat. I find it soothing for my mind to get my experiences off my chest. I think I would go crazy if I didn't discuss it.
      • Jess 3 mths ago
        Agreed with BDmjumpman - I served the first four months in Iraq and found my writing down my experiences and talking to others about them helped me process what I did and saw. I'm absolutely no hero and did nothing more than my duty. I know guys who are heroes however - guys who did things that reflect the honor, courage, and commitment we pride ourselves of in the USMC. Truly, these guys don't have to talk about their awards, others do it for them.
    • WALDEMAR  •  Jackson, Tennessee  •  3 mths ago
      as a vietnam vet the real heros that deserve the medals are the ones that were not able to make it home to their loved ones,for the rest of us we were lucky and blessed by GOD to see our loved ones again.and treated like #$%$ by others!!!!!!!!
    • epd537  •  3 mths ago
      Should put them in a War Zone and let them earn what they want so bad to lie about it.
    • Nomad  •  Fountain Valley, California  •  3 mths ago
      I really like the ones that say they are Navy Seals; just hilarious, and that they have missions on the weekends but, they will back on Monday.
    • S  •  San Francisco, California  •  3 mths ago
      A person who lies in order to gain something from other person has committed fraud. It's not free speech and never has been.
    • lil ol lady  •  Washington, District of Columbia  •  3 mths ago
      My question is why don't they check out the claims BEFORE they name something after someone. It could be done quietly with no hooraw involved and if false the claimant could be exposed.
    • Dan  •  3 mths ago
      If lies are illegal, our entire Government should be in jail. Lying about earning military
      medals is lower than a snake's belly though...an insult to REAL medal earners.
    • Thomas  •  Irvine, California  •  3 mths ago
      I think it is wrong to say something that you're not. I was in the military and I put in many for awards. I onnly had one after 14 years - many awards are for doing their jobs and that is wrong. I volunteered to be in the military (and so did my wife) to give service to our country - not for awards, money, fame. It just so happened that I was in during the Cold War and even though I had a finger on the a button (sort of) with reason and thought I could be trusted. I got a little hearing loss and no real benefit - that doesn't bother me either - but to lie about your "achievements" that are awarded to you (or were not) is wrong.
    • Robert  •  3 mths ago
      A person who lies to impress his friends is a douchebag.
      A person who lies to profit from it is a criminal.
      A group of people that lies to make money is called Congress.
    • Look 585  •  3 mths ago
      Seems to be a reasonable law/prohibition. It is illegal to impersonate a police officer, doctor, or lawyer is it not?
    • Don D  •  Cincinnati, Ohio  •  3 mths ago
      When I returned from Vietnam we were treated worse than perverted child molesters. Now there are more people claiming to have served than actually were there.To be a combat veteran is a rare thing, only one in ten actually are in the combat arms,infantry,armor,artillery.You may be in a convoy and see some combat but it's not your daily job. No insult intended.When you go out day in and day out for months seeking the bad guys it is different. For these people to lie about their service is a slap in the face of those who actually do this.This is not about free speech, you can't yell fire in a theater either, is that free speech?
    • armybeef68  •  3 mths ago
      "Xavier Alvarez stood up at a public meeting and called himself a wounded war veteran who had received the top military award, the Medal of Honor"

      Go ahead and print his picture and a list of all his speaking engagements...let's see how long it takes him to stop claiming what he's claiming
    • cruiser  •  Tujunga, California  •  3 mths ago
      If he says he was shot-- and it turns out he lied---
      Then shoot him..That way he wont be a liar....
      I am a VET and that idea will work for me..
    • Stew  •  3 mths ago
      It is not only fraud, it dishonors the acts of valor and heroic sacrifice true medal winners. If earning a medal didn't carry that unspoken meaning then they would mean nothing and people wouldn't be trying to deceive and defraud others.
    • Jack  •  3 mths ago
      Men that lie about awards they have won, should be made to visit wounded veterans. I really don't think they understand the harm they are doing when they lie. Free speech doesn't give a person the right to lie.
    • keiselsbeard  •  3 mths ago
      A real hero would never mention the fact that he is a hero. GOD BLESS OUR HEROES
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