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    House approves line-item veto for president

    WASHINGTON (AP) โ€” House Republicans put aside their usual antipathy toward President Barack Obama on Wednesday to give the president, and his successors, the line-item veto, a constitutionally questionable power over the purse that long has been sought by presidents of both parties.

    A minority of Democrats joined in casting a 254-173 vote in favor of allowing the president to pick out specific items in spending bills for elimination. Currently, the chief executive must sign or veto spending bills in their entirety.

    The main opposition came from members of the Appropriations Committee, which is responsible for putting together the annual spending bills. They argued that the bill upsets the constitutional separation of powers balance in favor of the executive branch, and that recent efforts to curtail so-called earmarks in spending bills make the line-item veto unnecessary.

    The bill now goes to the Senate, where its prospects are uncertain.

    In 1996, a Republican-controlled Congress succeeded in giving line-item veto authority to another Democratic president, Bill Clinton. He exercised that authority 82 times, and although Congress overrode his veto in 38 instances, the moves saved the government almost $2 billion.

    But in 1998, on a 6-3 vote, the Supreme Court ruled that the law was unconstitutional, saying it violated the principle that Congress, and not the executive branch, holds the power of the purse.

    Supporters say the bill has been written to meet constitutional standards. They say that while the president can propose items for rescission, or elimination, Congress must vote on the revised spending package and then the president must sign what is in effect a new bill.

    The House bill, offered by Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis., and the top Democrat on the committee, Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, stipulates that all savings from eliminated programs go to deficit reduction. House Republicans have included the bill as part of a package of measures to overhaul the budget process so as to save money.

    Van Hollen, in arguing the need for more scrutiny of spending bills, pointed to the catch-all spending bill the House voted on in December, when members had only 15 hours to review a 1,200-page bill containing more than $1 trillion in spending.

    "Sometimes we call them airdrops, earmarks, pork," Ryan said of special interest projects that find their way into spending bills. "Whatever you want to call it, we ought to have members of Congress think twice that they might have to justify this provision, this spending bill, on the merits."

    Freshman Republican Rep. Rob Woodall of Georgia voiced the dilemma felt by some Republicans about the bill: "I'm not thrilled about involving this president in budgeting decisions any more than is absolutely necessary," he said. "But given the nature of our challenges, it's not about this president or the previous president or the next president, it's about the American people."

    But Appropriations Committee Chairman Harold Rogers, R-Ky., said he opposed the measure because it would weaken the authority of Congress and give the president "a power that our founding fathers did not see fit to give to him." He added that a president can use the line-item veto to give preferences to his own spending priorities.

    The bill was supported by 57 Democrats. Forty-one Republicans voted against it.

    Under the proposal, the president has 45 days within the enactment of a spending bill to send a special message to Congress proposing cuts to any amount of discretionary, or non-entitlement, spending. Legislation to consider the proposed cuts would move quickly to the House and Senate floors for automatic up-or-down votes with no amendments.

    The White House, in a statement, said it "strongly supports" passage of the bill, praising it for "helping to eliminate unnecessary spending and discouraging waste." It said the bill was similar to a line-item veto proposal that Obama sent to Congress in May 2010.

    The bill faces an unclear road ahead in the Senate. Four senators โ€” Republicans John McCain of Arizona and Dan Coats of Indiana and Democrats Tom Carper of Delaware and Mark Udall of Colorado โ€” pushed to have a line-item veto provision considered by the supercommittee which last year was unable to come up with a comprehensive plan to reduce the deficit.

    But the Senate, traditionally more protective of its constitutional powers, has not always been receptive to the line-item veto idea. In 2007 former Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., picked up 49 votes for a line-item proposal, well short of the 60 needed to break a Democratic-led filibuster.

     

    43 comments

    • RB  •  San Antonio, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      The Confederacy had this in 1861. Plus term limits. Plus no riders or earmarks. Plus limited welfare. Plus PO had to be self sufficient. Plus each bill about only one subject.
      • Bill's dad 3 mths ago
        Too bad they weren't an actual government instead of treasonous jerk wads.
      • RB 3 mths ago
        Bill's dad:You mean they should have sat by and let the northern controlled congress pass law after law that exploited the south for revenue to run the government (to quote lincoln "I can't let them go. who would pay for the government"). Your quote is what the brits said about Washington, etc. They certainly had the legal right to leave and almost won against tremendous odds. Most of the changes they made to the US constitution, and there were only a few, look pretty good right now.
    • Wilma  •  3 mths ago
      I think the standout thing in this article is the fact that Congress spends the money and holds the purse strings. So why is everybody blaming Obama for spending so much??????
    • APEX-ROGUE  •  3 mths ago
      @Robert: "Why in the world would you give this cretin in the white house this power?"
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      Please define, "Cretin" in un-begoted terms.
      • Scott 3 mths ago
        It will be handy for next years GOP president, we are just thinking ahead, which seems to be lacking here in general
    • Hollycow  •  Richardson, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      How can vetoing the enter bill be constitutional and vetoing one item in the bill be unconstitutional? This makes no sense.
      • Travis 3 mths ago
        Read the Constitution. It is spelled out pretty clearly. The idea is that Congress makes the laws and the President carries them out. (Legislative branch vs Executive branch)

        The Supreme Court would likely rule this new version unconstitutional as well as it violates the separation of powers defined by the Constitution.
      • GP 3 mths ago
        True on both accounts..
    • Steve  •  3 mths ago
      how about not allowing ear marks at all, then their is no need for the line item veto......
    • Toni  •  Los Angeles, California  •  3 mths ago
      This is why so many have problems with republicans....even when you REALLY want Obama out. WHY in the WORLD would the House give this power to the president???? Especially when the PEOPLE want less spending and less of Obama's choices for spending???? Stupid move...but I still will not vote for Obama.... I see the loss of freedoms..look at Obama telling a religion you have to do this(free contraceptive) which is taking way the separation of the STATE from RELIGION.... Another lie from Obama since he supports the ACLU, ACORN, NPR, etc. who fight daily to strike "GOD" and crosses from any public/gov visual place.... talk about hypocrisy.....
      • Stan 3 mths ago
        "the PEOPLE want less spending and less of Obama's" Which part of "Congress holds the purse strings" don't you understand?
      • eric 3 mths ago
        28 states have a law saying that religious organizations have to provide contraceptives, you didn't have a problem with it until Obama said it. What an idiot.
    • Robert  •  Raleigh, North Carolina  •  3 mths ago
      Its about time. This could be a way to control those unnecessary earmarks and bring financial disclipline, providing those in congress do not find a way around this.
    • RB  •  3 mths ago
      Hasn't the Surpreme Court previously ruled against this type of thing ?
      • A Yahoo User 3 mths ago
        Read the article to see the new inclusions !!!!
      • RB 3 mths ago
        You're right... I was too hurried and didn't take the time to read the entire article... Sorry.
    • Mark  •  3 mths ago
      Line Item Veto is the only way to shift Constituent's budget-cut ballyhooing FROM Congress TO the President.
    • Scootter  •  Troy, Michigan  •  3 mths ago
      If the President trys to use this new power on a bad bill and remove the objectional parts, then his changes go back to the House for final approval, Or Not, then the President is forced to sign whatever the House of Corporations sends back to Him. This is a takeover attempt of the Presidency by the House of Corporations. The Republicans think it will go unnoticed by the ignorant public. They have based their support of Corporations over Citizens on the ignorance of the public for years. I think their time has come and gone. Their game plan is not only flawed but it is obvious to the masses. How sad to be a Boner.
    • Dylan  •  3 mths ago
      In a line-item veto, the president can choose certain items to pick off in a spending bill. However, the items that he picks off must then be approved by Congress to be picked off. This was proven to be a very efficient way to get rid of earmarks and other wasteful spending.
    • Realist  •  Tyler, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      Until Congress gives up its practice of attaching unrelated riders to appropriations bills, the line item veto should be the law of the land.
    • WHATS UP  •  Akron, Ohio  •  3 mths ago
      1998, on a 6-3 vote, the Supreme Court ruled that the law was unconstitutional, saying it violated the principle that Congress, and not the executive branch, holds the power of the purse.
      It was tried and ruled on why are the republicans wasting so much of tax payers money. Past bills that will bring more jobs back to this country as President Obama stated.
    • Solomon123  •  College Park, Maryland  •  3 mths ago
      Republicans are anticipating the next president will be republican.Obama has 1 year left and anything Obama veto will not be approve by republican House
    • Bill's dad  •  Cerritos, California  •  3 mths ago
      It's a great idea that, if crafted in a constitutional manner, will greatly benefit us all. I also share some concerns regarding the honesty of Boners "guild."
    • George  •  Killeen, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      A line item veto has been needed for a long time. If Congress writes a bill with lots of pork, the president vetos the pork lines but Congress passes it anyway then we know who to blame.
    • TOMCAT  •  Madisonville, Tennessee  •  3 mths ago
      Line Item Veto was already passed into law and the republicans had the unsupreme court declare it unconstitutional under Bill Clinton.
    • D M  •  3 mths ago
      Dumb, dumb, dumb and dumber.
    • scotty  •  Clancy, Montana  •  3 mths ago
      It is one more way to controling any Congress and their "onk-onk" Pork barrel spending which the president then could eliminate this practice which costs us Billions of dollars!!!
    • Billi  •  Punta Gorda, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      Still too little too late but am glad this passed. I am still not voting for any incumbent in November...still criminals as far as I am concerned.
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