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    House passes concealed weapons permit bill

    WASHINGTON (AP) — A state permit to carry a concealed firearm would be valid in almost every other state in the country under legislation the House passed Wednesday.

    The first pro-gun bill the House has taken up this year and the first since Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., was severely injured in a gun attack in January, it had the National Rifle Association's backing and passed by a comfortable margin. The vote was 272-154, with only seven Republicans voting against it and 43 Democrats supporting it.

    The Democratic-controlled Senate has no parallel bill. But two years ago, GOP Sens. John Thune of South Dakota and David Vitter of Louisiana nearly succeeded in attaching a similar measure to a larger bill.

    Under the House legislation, people with a concealed carry permit in one state could carry a concealed weapon in every other state that gives people the right to carry concealed weapons. While states have various standards for issuing such permits, currently only Illinois and the District of Columbia prohibit the concealed carrying of weapons.

    "The Second Amendment is a fundamental right to bear arms that should not be constrained by state boundary lines," said GOP Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.

    The bill's chief co-sponsor, Rep. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., said states should consider concealed carry permits no differently from driver's licenses recognized by all states. He noted that many states already have reciprocity agreements with other states.

    The legislation would "make it easier for law-abiding permit holders to know that they are simply in compliance with the law when they carry a firearm as they travel," he said.

    Democratic opponents said the bill would constitute a "race to the bottom," with states that have strict requirements for issuing permits having to accept permits from states with far more lax standards.

    "It's a situation where weaker state laws become the national law," said Rep. Bobby Scott, D-Va. He noted that some states require training for permit holders, or deny permits to those under 21 or who sell drugs to minors, commit sex offenses or are involved in domestic violence.

    According to the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, the measure would allow states with tough requirements, such as New York and California, "to allow in concealed carry gun-toting people from states, such as Florida, which repeatedly have given dangerous people licenses to carry."

    Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., and Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., wrote President Barack Obama last week urging him to issue a veto threat against the bill. Passing the bill "would jeopardize public safety and would be an insult to states like New Jersey and New York that purposefully have strong gun ownership laws," they wrote.

    The administration has not yet taken an official position on the bill.

    Democrats also chided Republicans for ignoring their dedication to states' rights. "For the Republican House majority that supposedly believes in states' rights, this bill is shocking," said Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y.

    There hasn't been much legislative action on firearms issues this year. A spending bill that the House is expected to vote on this week would bar the Justice Department from consolidating firearms sales records or maintaining information on people who have passed firearms background checks.

    The chief sponsors of the concealed weapon measure, Stearns and Rep. Heath Shuler, D-N.C., said their proposal would not create a federal licensing system but merely require states to honor one another's carry permits.

    People who are unable to get a permit in their home state would not be able to carry a concealed weapon in their home state by getting a permit in another state. A state's ban on carrying concealed weapons in places such as bars, sporting events or state parks would apply to nonresidents as well as residents.

    Thirty-five states have "shall issue" permit laws that usually require states to issue permits to those who meet legal requirements. Ten others have "may issue" or discretionary permit laws. Vermont, Arizona, Alaska and Wyoming do not require a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

     
    • Hollow Point  •  Concord, United States  •  5 mths ago
      This has nothing to do with "states rights hypocrisy'. They have never had the right to inhibit our 2nd amendment right guaranteed in the the constitution and ratified by all states. This is simply Congress correcting the abuse by states of a constitutional right. Everywhere I travel legally armed, I am providing the ultimate security for my family and myself. And also for society in general.
    • David A  •  Encino, United States  •  6 mths ago
      BUY AMMO!!
      • SSG. LASSITER-RVN-'66 ... 6 mths ago
        LOTS AND LOTS OF AMMO DAVID A..I NEED MORE .22 ONLY HAVE 800 ROUNDS..200 OF .45..200...380
      • atexascattleman 6 mths ago
        That's my sin, I have lots of guns but not enough ammo.
    • John  •  Hickory Hills, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Permits, we don't need no stinking permits...
      The people to fear are the ones who carry concealed weapons without benefit of permit. Yes, there are thousands of them out there.
      • SSG. LASSITER-RVN-'66 ... 6 mths ago
        You sooo right john...thousands!!..this is why i go nowhere outside home without mine in pocket. Only a dam fool leaves home thinking he or she is safe...lol
      • markh 6 mths ago
        Gee, I've been around the world for 40 years and have been safe. I had no idea I was in such danger.
      • PhilB 6 mths ago
        You haven't been safe; you've been lucky. I see carrying a gun responsibly as being the same as putting on your seatbelt, or wearing a helmet on your motorcycle. You hope you don't need it. On any given day it's very unlikely that you will need it. But there may come a day when you do, and you have no way to predict which day that is. And on that day, if you need that safety precaution, and didn't take, you're screwed.
    • Mike  •  Columbus, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Banned or not, guess what, I will still have my guns. They have their opinions I have my needs. I will be armed anyway.
      • Jeffrey 6 mths ago
        Food, Water, and AMMO is the way to be!!!! I agree with you Mike!!!
      • seventy6 6 mths ago
        Right on target Mike!!!
    • foxfire  •  Atlanta, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Defending your life is your ultimate individual right.
    • Fred  •  Chicago, United States  •  6 mths ago
      So for the argument that its unfair that some states aren't as harsh in denying permits, what about drivers licenses. I have to share the road with idiots not paying attention. And its pretty rare to have a problem with a licensed gun owner.
      • Charles 6 mths ago
        Wow what a comparison. Gun permit and drivers license. Of course you are wearing a cowboy hat. That figures. I bet you even have a gun rack in the back window of your pickup along with your confederate flag.
      • Big is a PIG 6 mths ago
        A car if for transportation...A gun is purpose built to harm people...Your comparison is kinda stupid.
      • BBG 6 mths ago
        Cars do kill more people in america then guns. But it's not the car or the gun that kills people, It's the Idiot who's controlling them.
    • HAVE BLUE  •  6 mths ago
      when seconds count, police are only minutes away....
    • Rob  •  6 mths ago
      Which would you prefer, to be judged by twelve, or carried by six?
      • John 6 mths ago
        Most of the idiots on here would rather be carried by six. Why would you not want to carry a gun in this day and age?
      • seventy6 6 mths ago
        Men who do not carry guns are victims, men who do carry guns are citizans
      • Eric 6 mths ago
        Amen Brother, Amen
    • Mike  •  Columbus, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Good idea. I can just tote my peice wherever I go and not have to worry about getting arrested.
    • scott  •  6 mths ago
      as a police officer I have no problem with this bill. I always assume every person I approach has a weapon on them.
    • k9vonengel  •  Nonthaburi, Thailand  •  6 mths ago
      Haven't the Democrats figured it out yet. That if you ban the use or carrying of a firearm, then the Criminals will know they are able to do what they want. Kill, rob and do what ever they want, as the law bidding citizen is defenseless. Besides its a known fact that if a Perp knows that a person maybe or is carrying a firearm, he/she is likely to not commit a crime or at the very least go somewhere else.
      I would rather be judged by 12, rather then CARRIED by six.
    • Just the Facts  •  Washington, United States  •  6 mths ago
      If I can't carry a concealed weapon, then only the criminals will carry concealed weapons!
    • podonk  •  Montgomery, United States  •  6 mths ago
      ITS ABOUT TIME
    • Texas  •  Roscoe, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Political grandstanding in preparation for 2012. I doubt that it will go anywhere in the Senate.

      Personally, I have no problem with it.
    • Save the Whales  •  6 mths ago
      Pass a bill on this and do nothing on the justice department sending guns illegally to Mexico. The people who get permits and carry guns legally are not the people to worry about
    • Sir.Dennis  •  6 mths ago
      Can't have none of that Bill of Rights crap going on around here, AP! Pretty soon the people will be asking for freedom of speech and religion, too!!!
    • First L  •  Rochester, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Im leaving NY to move to gun friendly Va.. NY will revoke My CCW Permit when I move -I say I earned that permit I should be able to keep it in case I return to ny for some stupid reason ..Pass this bill -and shove it up Ny backside
    • First L  •  Rochester, United States  •  6 mths ago
      GREAT--CCW holders are the most Honest good citizens !!! Now the senate and PREZ.. If the DEMS kill this Bill we will use it to hammer them Next election !! I have a NY permit Ill be happy to be able to transport My guns to another state worry free Not Just CCW!!!!
    • 38special  •  Grand Rapids, United States  •  6 mths ago
      I dare any of you gun control advocates to look up the incidence of violence and crimes committed by legal pistol licensees in your home state.
      In Michigan according to the State Police there are over 300,000 active concealed pistol licenses yet only 1,005 of them were revoked the entire year 2010 and most of those for drunk driving. If all Americans were as law-abiding as the pistol licensees there wouldn't be any need for even the police to carry guns...but that's not reality.
      In the real world the problem is CRIMINALS have guns and don't give a rip what laws you pass to try to control their use.
      Passage of this law affords law-abiding citizens the ability to protect themselves and their loved ones from dangerous criminals.
    • Peter B  •  Harrisburg, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Obama Needs to "PASS THIS BILL NOW" in his words It will allow Citizens Peace of Mind when Traveling and this will increase interstate comerce .More Vacations more spending Revenue WIN WIN
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