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    Intense Greek talks for debt deal continue

    ATHENS, Greece (AP) — Greece's European partners tightened the screws on Athens on Monday, demanding that political leaders swiftly agree on more austerity measures in exchange for a new bailout package needed to avert a disastrous bankruptcy.

    Angry unions, however, called a general strike for Tuesday to protest the demands for new, painful belt-tightening.

    The Greek party leaders' meeting on Monday will follow up on intense weekend negotiations that failed to produce a breakthrough. Greece is negotiating both the austerity reforms to get a new bailout as well as a major writedown by banks and other private investors in their holdings of the country's bonds.

    Patience has worn thin among Greece's European partners, after weeks of forecasts from Athens that a deal for both was imminent. European Commission spokesman Amadeu Altafaj Tardio said Greece is already "beyond the deadline" and should reach conclusions "around now." He added that "the ball is in the court of the Greek authorities."

    Prime Minister Lucas Papademos will meet with negotiators from the eurozone and the International Monetary Fund on Monday afternoon and then with the leaders of the three parties backing his coalition.

    The parties all publicly oppose steep cuts in private sector pay demanded by the eurozone and IMF, but their backing is needed for the government to reach a deal for the bailout, which must be approved by the Greek Parliament.

    The new €130 billion ($171 billion) bailout deal is vital for Greece to avoid bankruptcy next month as it cannot cover a €14.5 billion ($19.1 billion) bond repayment due March 20 without the rescue funds.

    The debt-crippled country has been kept solvent since May 2010 by payments from a €110 billion ($145 billion) international rescue loan package. When it became clear the money would not be enough, a second bailout was decided last October.

    Its implementation depends on the austerity measures but also on separate talks with banks and other private bondholders to forgive €100 billion ($131.6 billion) in Greek debt, in exchange for a cash payment and new bonds worth 50 per cent less than the original face value, longer repayment terms and a cut in the interest rate to be paid on the bonds. Those close to the negotiations expect private investors to take an overall cut of up to 70 percent on the value of their bonds.

    Over the weekend, Greek officials held a conference call with eurozone finance ministers, as well as more talks in Athens with EU-IMF debt inspectors, senior bank negotiators, and Greek political party leaders, to try and hammer out a deal on the new cutbacks.

    Greeks have already been subjected to a spate of austerity measures in return for the rescue loans, suffering significant cuts in pensions and salaries coupled with repeated tax hikes and an increase in retirement ages.

    Angry at the prospect of new pain after two years of harsh austerity, Greece's main GSEE labor union and the ADEDY civil servants' union called a new general strike for Tuesday.

    "Together with the GSEE, we have just decided to hold a 24-hour strike tomorrow, to be accompanied by a protest march in central Athens," ADEDY secretary-general Ilias Iliopoulos told the AP.

    An ADEDY statement said the proposed new cutbacks would "intensify the vicious cycle of recession and drive Greek society to despair."

    Greece is in its fifth year of recession, while unemployment has hit record highs of about 19 percent.

    "The current policy of austerity ... is turning workers into pariahs, jobless people and pensioners into paupers and deprives our youth of any hope," the statement said. "This policy has already pushed Greeks beyond their limits and must be stopped at any cost."

    GSEE leader Yiannis Panagopoulos said the creditors' demands were a "chronicle of a death foretold."

    "What is going on is not a negotiation," he said. "It's blunt, cynical blackmail targeting an entire people."

    An announcement from Papademos' office late Sunday said agreement had been reached to cut 2012 spending by 1.5 percent of gross domestic product — about €3.3 billion ($4.3 billion) — improve competitiveness by slashing wages and non-wage costs, and re-capitalize banks without nationalizing them.

    But the three coalition backers — Socialist George Papandreou, Conservative Antonis Samaras and George Karatzaferis of the right-wing populist LAOS party — have disagreed on the fine details of the proposals.

    Party leaders had undertaken to provide an initial response on the demanded cutbacks before their Monday evening meeting with Papademos, a Socialist party spokesman said. However, the prime minister's office said there was no formal demand for a response, while the conservatives and LAOS said they were not planning to issue one.

    "We are in the middle of a major struggle. Right now, the developments are satisfactory," said Karatzaferis, adding that EU-IMF negotiators had backed away from a demand to ax annual salary installments given to Greek workers as holiday bonuses.

    Rescue lenders are also seeking layoffs in Greece's large public sector, a drop in the €750 ($985) gross minimum monthly wage, and cuts in lump-sum retirement payouts, as part of a long list of cost-cutting demands.

    Also Monday, left wing opposition parties are planning two separate protest rallies in central Athens at 6:00 p.m. (1600GMT), against the proposed cuts.

    ___

    Derek Gatopoulos in Athens and Raf Casert in Brussels contributed

     

    34 comments

    • George  •  3 mths ago
      Goodbye Euro!

      Hello Gyro!
      • FYI 3 mths ago
        Used to be you could get a gyro for a Euro...now is more like 2 Euros...take away, of course!
      • Donald 3 mths ago
        I'm hoping this will bring the price of anchovies down.
      • The Sherrif 3 mths ago
        I want some cheap virgin olive oil !
    • Think Panther  •  Athens, Greece  •  3 mths ago
      Let's talk numbers so no-Greeks can understand. Three years ago I was making 30000$ a year which was enough for me and my family and I was considered well paid. Then I lost my job (Civil Engineer) because the construction firm I worked bankrrupted and since then I'm trying to find a job. The construction market in Greece is DEAD, nothing is being built. I have no work, neither my wife. We have zero income but we will be taxed for 25000€ since we are both engineers according to the austerity measures new tax law. Practically we are living on our parents pension which has been cut by 50%. And my insurance contribution is now 50% up. How am I supposed to live when there are no jobs? It's easy to post opinions on the web when the stomach is full. I want to work but there is no work. Nothing will change for me in the next 10 years regardless if Greece bankrrupts or not, and I have nothing to lose. I don't care for the economic indexes, or the markets or the CD's or for the IMF. I care for my children and I want them to grow well and at least have the hope that has been stolen from my generation.
      • Michael 3 mths ago
        I "CONCUR!!" I lived in Athens Greece for 11yrs on behalf of the US Military... I loved that assignment!! Most Sadly, too many of my fellow US Citizens do not seem to understand what is happening in Greece today... I have tried to explain to them, but it seems to be beyond their understanding.. so sad... because, it is starting to happen here now in the USA! Corporate America is living off the people through Corporate Welfare (i.e. Bailouts, TARP, etc...) Sadly, I believe the only way the people here in my country (USA) will ever understand what you are experiencing, is when it happens here in very VERY SOON... Sadly, it will be too late by then for many here..
      • Tom 3 mths ago
        Think Panther...thanks for the insight. What would you recommend to best help Greece? Leave the EU and default so that you can introduce a devalued drachma. Foreign money would pour in as the country got bought up. It will bring in work but everything will be up for sale. I'm sympathetic but I don't see a smooth and painless way out of this. Any ideas? Clearly the rest of the world won't bail you out?
    • Todd  •  London, United Kingdom  •  3 mths ago
      Of course living within a budget is impossible for liberals...
      • Opus 3 mths ago
        please that type of statement shows how stupid conservatives really are
      • Todd 3 mths ago
        Spoken like a true liberal parasite that you are. Tell us, how much does welfare pay these days?
    • Dom  •  3 mths ago
      I don't know why this charade continues. Greece will eventually be forced to leave the EU, return to the drachma. Why delay the inevitable?
    • Rowell  •  3 mths ago
      We are now in the 12th hour after the 24 hour deadline came and went 10 hours ago.
      Greece is going to default, no matter how hard you try, no matter what you do. Cut losses now.
    • uhuh  •  3 mths ago
      Bite of more than you can chew, spend more than you make, what did you think was gonna happen? You spent the money. Time to pay the piper.
      • Rowell 3 mths ago
        Funny. The same hing can be said about the US. How will you react when you lose your job, there's no job openings, your taxes go up and the government no longer subsidizes food stamps or other social programs? Answer: Probably the same way that the people in Greece are reacting now. Don't condemn a man until you've walked a mile in their shoes.
      • tallyman 3 mths ago
        You can`t compare Greece to the good old USA. One is an apple the other an orange.
    • Ioannis  •  Athens, Greece  •  3 mths ago
      be prepared for you clustering havoc its being prepared for you by your own
      • Janey 3 mths ago
        Ioannis, if you are not a pollitician, I really feel soory for you. Do you think Greece has econamical future? You are there. Please advise us.....Janey
      • Ioannis 3 mths ago
        I am not a politician, Yes things will get worse due to the drop of wages to such lows will affect all and lower the way life was carried out. The economic future is a hard one to quote on but from a workers perpective it will be bad low income for many ours work , no rights low living standards. I think that there will be cival unrest for the reason that injection of so much money over the 20 years into this economy has created wants which have become daily habits and to cut these habits which are commons for EU fellow citizen within this umbrella will cause unrest. Hardship for the greek is inevitable now but the choice to cut away from the EU is a more positive prospect than remaining as it has not made anything better for citizens as regulations have never been imposed or policed to the Governers of Greece and if they where it was one ouzo party forgotten very quickly. If you ask the common what has the EU done to help them they will tell you it is a company with handouts for a few.
        Demands for this region are evident as there are resources which are undeveloped from commoditys to weather
        We have to hang in a while to see if the Greek spirit will fire up to unload collabirators for the new hard facts of self sufficency independace commencing again.
        Sad but a reality/
    • USINDEBTEDNESS  •  3 mths ago
      Unions are going for broke in more ways than one.
    • scottb  •  3 mths ago
      This is Americas future. Our debt is over 16 trillion dollars. We borrow from the Communist China to stay afloat. This recession will be considered the glory days when our bill comes due.
    • Ger Pat  •  3 mths ago
      Check the history, no matter what the Greeks agree to they will not keep their promise. Cut the strings and the other defaulters will take notice
    • Ioannis  •  Athens, Greece  •  3 mths ago
      No one from the EU is guilty for the ouzo party over the past 20 years going in Greece but who ever participated had a good time . With Whos money was the party drinking on? What a mess
    • Malika  •  Tampa, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      The country is in serious debt and people are repeattedly going on strike? ...
    • Jimmy  •  3 mths ago
      They can't print their own money.
    • Lawrence  •  Vienna, West Virginia  •  3 mths ago
      having lived high on the hog for decades, it appears time for paying the piper. as one noted in another posting, the fat lady is clearing her throat. i think she is well into the first act.
    • M.G  •  3 mths ago
      Greece is done. It will take everyone down with it. The greece we read about in history is long gone. The great minds are replaced by idiots who can't run their country and economy right. I like their nude beaches though.....It was one of the horniest summer of my life.... :-)
    • A Yahoo! User  •  San Antonio, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      Greece is between the rock and the hard place. Germany and France which have cut their own Social Benefits will have little sympathy for Greece and their Social Benefits. I think the large group of folks that work for the government might be the first to be reduced.

      If they can't seem to do it themselves, get help from Germany, or England. They have slimmed down their government workers, but the mail gets delivered, and the services continue. Here in Texas the food stamp (welfare) workers were given a choice of increasing production, or getting replaced - they were also allowed to work with each other to suggest ways to cut red tape and help people quicker. Productivity rose, and now it is one of the best such services in the country. And the workers are proud they did it (management also was cut, not just the workers on the line) so fair is fair. And taxes did NOT go up. It can also involve the union, they can agree to work towards realistic goals, but demand the workers be given a chance to achieve the goals without everything coming from the top.

      I wish them luck, the days of wine and roses are over for all of us - Greece, America, wherever.
    • Vois  •  3 mths ago
      The rich politicians,corporate crooks and some government employees who have provided
      for themselves a free socialized medicine and huge retirement benefits for life,starting at the
      middle age of 50 at taxpayers expense,and to date they have never refused to take any of
      their Social Security checks,what do you think about such parasites complaining about
      socialism and socialized medicine for the poor Greeks,Anglo-Americans and other countries
      people?It is just like when Nazi-fascist Croatian ustasha fanatics,Bosnia and Kosovo-Albanian Muslim terrorists,dope& bodyparts trafficers and massive illegal immigrants started
      attacking the Serbs first,in 1941 with the help of Adolf Hitler and Mussolini and in 1992 with
      the help of Clintons-Bushies.And as soon as they get their noses broken and bloodied,they
      start crying like babies and calling themselves "young boys and girls and innocent victims
      of Serb aggression".It proves that the parasites are really and totally different from normal,
      good and honest people.
    • Saundra  •  Irvine, California  •  3 mths ago
      The liberal Socialist dream is over in Athens. The unions who control the economy have destroyed Greece, and yet "Father Obama" is taking us down the same path supporting every union inspired disaster chipping away at our foundations.
    • M.G  •  3 mths ago
      Queen my a.....ss all she and her family do is spend the tax payer money. I can't believe we still have Kings and Queens in some countries....it's 2012 for god sake
    • Gary  •  Louisville, Kentucky  •  3 mths ago
      The EU should repo Greece?
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