International envoys seek to restart Mideast talks

Peace talks. What a joke. There's about as much chance as that happening as there is of me being President. And that's 0%. Send all the envoys from now till eternity. Not going down, period. End of story!!!

That will fix it "peace talks". blah blah blah....

Dear Israelis,

Start teaching your children Russian, Polish, and Ukrainien, the language most of you already speak from your true homeland. It will only be a matter of time when you pigs will have to find boats to take you back to your real homes.

Palestine for Palestinians, not squatters who made up a "holocaust".

This whole Israel thing is nuts. Bunch of Eastern Europeans come from nowhere, invade a land, take over politically, and push out the locals who have lived there for 1000's of years claiming that God told them to do it. Funny, but when someone goes out and commits crimes based on what God told them, we usually treat them like nuts.

CoolHand, as you point out Gaza's beachfront property, there's also access to a large potential casino gambling market. A theme-based "Samson's Temple Hotel-Casino Resort" in Gaza (site of where Samson brought the house down) could make the Gaza economy, but of course the morons who run it would rather use it for a terrorist base and complain when they're treated as such.

I've suggested many times that the Palestinians ought to make whatever concessions they need to make before there's nothing left of the West Bank on which to form a state.

After visiting Cancun Mexico, I immediately thought of the Gaza Strip. Twelve miles of coastline nestled in the southeastern corner of the Mediterranean Sea. If the people were warm and inviting, what major hotel company wouldn't want to build a resort there and bring billions of dollars into the Gaza Strip economy?

Instead they live in squalor, refugee camps, smuggle arms in through tunnels, gangs of violent thugs rule the streets, and they wait for their leadership to destroy Israel.

Frankly, the Gaza strip is just like any other anarchistic environment where moderates live in fear for their lives. But you can't discount the effects of generations of propaganda in schools that have been teaching children to hate Jews. In a culture where they persist in referring to the 1948 Declaration of the State Israel as the "catastrophe", what else can we come to expect.

Peace has always been up to the Palestinians, it has always been for them to come to terms with their own reality. But they've always managed to disappoint, insisting on terms that will never be met. Peace has been there for them to grasp as long ago as 1973, when it became fairly obvious that the surrounding nations would not be attempting anymore attacks on Israel.

At any time in the past sixty years, the Palestinian leadership could have said, enough!
Israel is a Jewish State, it has a right to exists, in peace, and we would like the same for ourselves. But that never has never happened.

"Lieberman's gangland politics have no place in the 21st century," Erekat said.

Placating Muslims and terrorists as in the Shilat deal shouldn't have any place in any century, if Israel knows what's good for them. History repeats itself. Remember the holocaust? My how easily people forget, even though history proves time and again that it repeats itself.

Obama is leading people like sheep to the slaughter, both Americans and Jews. Look at this Bible prophesy.

According to Dan 9:27, the Biblical antichrist in the whitehouse will force Israel to divide its land by signing a peace deal with Israel (which will guarantee her security). This, according the Bible not according to me, is the event which will start the 7 year tribulation and bring devastation on the US (the Harlot as she is called in Rev 17 and 18). Notice what it says about the "Harlot", which is America....

"In her heart she boasts, 'I sit as queen; I am not a widow, and I will never mourn.' Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her: death, mourning and famine. She will be consumed by fire, for mighty is the Lord God who judges her."

You see the antichrist (called the Scarlet Beast) first arises out of her, then gains power from 10 kings (presumably from the Arab Spring) and then destroys her. - Rev 17:17

Then at the end of the tribulation, Christ will return. Here is what the Bible says regarding that:

“Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.” – Rev 1:7.

This verse indicates that most people will be on the wrong side when He returns.

Are you on the right side?

"Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist--he denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also." 1John 2:22-23.

These things will happen.

So the Palestinians will run the clock, as last time, and some time in November 2012 will agree to sit down and will press that the original time table must be accomplish in order to have a deal in December 2012.

They are at an impasse. Palestinian authorities want to go back to '67 border lines and Israel says no.

So, Palestinians agree that negotiations are possible after:

1. Israel concedes to their single largest demand, with no reciprocal concession by the Palestinians, before negotiations ever begin.

2. Israel agrees to adhere to 1967 borders, which Israel was adhering to in 1967 when it was invaded by the Palestinians, Egyptians, Jordanians, and Syrians.

This is why Palestinian negotiations are as successful as Palestinian infrastructure, justice, and politics. It must be nice to spend six decades trying to make war instead of building a nation, then blaming all problems on your adversary.
In that time, Israel seems to have succeeded both at making war on its enemies and building its own nation.

So clearly the right thing to do here is to support the self-entitled losing Palestinian side, because although they've failed to build their own nation, failed to make peace when Israel offered to dismantle all settlements in 2000, and failed to build any solidarity with their Arab kin outside of joining together in the common cause of outnumbering, invading, and being militarily embarrassed by Israel, they just like to feel like downtrodden underdogs.
Perhaps this is why in prisoner trades, it takes over a thousand Palestinians to equal one Israeli.

The Palestinians explained they would be willing to meet with the Israelis once they get everything they want before they even begin negotiating. LOL!

Isarel says for $ 75 billion, they will destroy Iran's nuclear capabilities. Saudis and Kuwaitins will dole out $ 35 billion if the US doles out $ 40 billion. This is cheaper and better than the $ 3 trillion wastefully spent on the endless wars in Iraq, Pakistan and Afganistan by Bush and Obama.

See english.pnn.ps to learn just how murderous the jews are. They are cleanign the land of the indigenous Semites. Yes 'semite" does not mean "jew"! How many people know that? Not many because the jews have a very good propaganda organization. read "Journey to Jerusalem" by Grace Halsell.

When muslims are in control just ask the 3,000,000 dead Hindu from Pakistan in 1971.

Peace means, Israel ending its occupation of Palestinian land.

Hendrek, since you're such a fan of the UN, how about pointing out the Arab refusal to accept Res 181, a decision by the legal government to establish both supermajority Jewish and supermajority Arab nations in the Palestine Trusteeship? The Arabs accept the decision the legal government made, and we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

The real reason there is no peace, and the real reason Abbas is doing everything he can to avoid negotiating, is that the Arabs know that in any peace agreement, they will need to acknowledge Israel as the ancestral Jewish homeland and accept that Israel has the right to control its immigration and citizenship (which means that 5,000,000 Arabs currently outside of Israel should have no expectation of Israeli residency and citizenship). The Arabs will not agree to these basic principles, which is why Arafart TURNED DOWN his own nation in 2000 and 2001, and why Abbas turned one down in 2008.

It's not about the 1949 Armistice lines (erroneously called the 1967 "borders"), it's about the Arab refusal to accept a government formed by a Jewish supermajority governing any part of Palestine.

Talking makes much more sense then fighting over something that might be able to be talked out. Bombs can not sign a peace treaty. The Palestinians need to lower their expectations. Israel is after all the only true Jewish homeland their is and their is not a whole lot of land to go around. Try to imagine yourself in your enemies postion, how would you respond if you were them. And then go to the table with a more clearer view of both sides, not just your side.

I would like to know what those who vehemently oppose the Gaza blockade feel would happen should it be lifted.
Do they really imagine weapons wouldn't be shipped in from Iran?
It seems the aims and objectives favored by these people are the creation of a scenario in which Hamas, aided by their sponsor in Tehran, are able to take better aim at Israel,
using more sophisticated weaponry, and kill a great number of innocent people - for I see no other eventuality should carte blanche be given to ship weapons to Gaza.

Shekel Trader, how about the pesky Palestinians stop coveting land that "everybody" agrees is under Israeli sovereignty (i.e., what Israel controlled after the 1949 Armistice agreements)?