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    New Irish envoy: Pope consistent on stopping abuse

    DUBLIN (AP) — Pope Benedict XVI has been "relentless and consistent" in seeking to oust child abusers from the priesthood worldwide, the pontiff's new American envoy to Ireland said Sunday in his first homily here.

    Archbishop Charles Brown, a 52-year-old Manhattan native and veteran Vatican insider, was making his first public address since officially taking up his post as Irish papal nuncio three days ago.

    "From the beginning, Pope Benedict was resolute and determined to put into place changes which would give the church the ability to deal more effectively with those who abuse trust. ... Pope Benedict has been relentless and consistent on this front," Brown told worshippers and diplomatic guests at a service at Dublin's Pro-Cathedral.

    The first-time diplomat faces a delicate repair job in Ireland, a traditionally Catholic nation that has seen Mass attendance plummet in line with nearly two decades of pedophile-priest scandals.

    Last year Prime Minister Enda Kenny accused the Vatican of overseeing a cover-up culture that encouraged the rape of children. The Vatican took two months to issue a legalistic rebuttal that sidestepped its refusal to help a series of Irish state-ordered investigations.

    Ireland then closed its Vatican embassy but insisted this was purely a cost-cutting measure, a claim widely disbelieved in Ireland since the country's ongoing struggle to stave off national bankruptcy.

    Dublin Archbishop Diarmuid Martin, widely considered to be Ireland's most reform-minded Catholic leader, told reporters he expected that Ireland and the Vatican would compromise on arrangements to open a new, cheaper Irish embassy in Rome. Ireland still operates one embassy in the Italian capital, but the Vatican insists that countries fund completely separate diplomatic facilities.

    Speaking to reporters outside the cathedral, Martin said he was confident that the Vatican would permit Ireland to open "a leaner embassy" that is separate but on the same site as Ireland's Italian embassy.

    In his homily, Brown reiterated the Vatican's longheld line that its leaders have never obstructed Irish efforts to identify and punish several hundred child abusers in parishes and religious orders.

    Brown noted his own 17-year work as an official of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the powerful Vatican body that enforces church policies — including the removal of pedophiles from the priesthood. Benedict, then known as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, oversaw the body from 1981 until his promotion to pope in 2005.

    "I speak from my own experience when I tell you that Pope Benedict was scandalized and dismayed as he learned about the tragedy of abuse perpetrated by some members of the clergy and of religious congregations," Brown said. "He felt deeply the wounds of those who had been harmed and who so often had not been listened to."

    Ratzinger in 2001 was responsible for a new church edict ordering bishops worldwide to forward all known abuse cases to the congregation, so that offending priests could be more effectively defrocked under terms of the church's own canon laws.

    But that and several other key church messages, including the pope's 2010 papal letter to the Irish people, have ignored accusations that Vatican policies discouraged Irish bishops from telling police about crimes. To this day, official Vatican policy remains ambiguous on the matter, stressing the need to observe the church's own rulebook.

    A decade of Irish fact-finding commissions into the scandals has determined that church officials did not tell police of any crimes until the mid-1990s and only because Irish abuse victims had started to sue the church, challenging decades of Irish deference to church authority. One bishop was found to have continued to cover up crimes as recently as 2008.

    The Vatican refused to respond to letters sent by Irish investigators seeking access to the church's secret files on abuse cases in Rome. The Vatican later said it couldn't respond because the investigators had failed to file their information requests through the Irish government.

    More than 14,000 people have received abuse settlements in Ireland exceeding euro1.2 billion ($1.6 billion). The payouts have been funded largely by taxpayers rather than the church, another source of continuing church-state tensions.

     
    • Tennerson  •  ,  •  1 mth 17 days ago
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      CeeCee • San Angelo, Texas • 1 mth 19 days ago Report Abuse

      Why do catholics work so hard to defend the catholic church? You would think if it's from God & Christ, it could stand alone, and not need catholics to defend it. But for some reason, it's NOT standing alone, it's falling, crashing down around them, Today's article & EVERY catholic article every day mentions the SCANDALS of the catholic church, pedophilia, money-laundering, embezzling, torture of humans, crimes against humanity, the list is endless.

      ANSWER:
      With a "GIFT" of 1$ a Day has Made the Name JESUS worth 2.3Billion Dollars on any Single Day, from a decision made in the Council Of Nicea, and do not place "GOD" out your Thoughts and not Believe they would not Protect this Liquid Asset which is the Blood of the Church. That Blood gives Priest and Popes Hard erections for the Members Children Boys A**S**S for John the Baptist to wash.

      I AM THAT I AM:11111929-11112929

      The SUN has risen in the WEST.
    • Tennerson  •  1 mth 17 days ago
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      Manan Mclear • Westfield, Massachusetts • 1 mth 19 days ago Report Abuse

      "I'm 52 years old and was a forced catholic ( my parents forced me to go to church) even back then we knew the priest where either drunks or didlers and didn't want to go near them . The Nuns where mean and would actually pull your hair ( it was the seventies We grew are hair long ) beat us with ruler and pointing sticks. It turns out Their parish I went was one of the worst in boston for molestors they went after the kids who had no fathers or fathers were drunks . I know all priest are not didlers and all Nuns are not abusive but people in this neighborhood still go to church and still think they are better than those who donot ( Me) I have become a spriritualist I believe in the earth , sea and land are God I still believe in God just not their God people rag on Me all the time I simply say My God does not hide child molestors and they usually shut up , its sad how brainwashed these people are but to each his own as My God would say . Pray for the Earth that is what makes life and it will wipe you out or give you the sweetest honey, I'm proud of Ireland standing up for their rights against the powerful deviant papal forces of "EVIL" the HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH, the HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH, the HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH. Prepare your Children's A**S**S for the Priests for you watched this happen for 2000Years in the NAME OF JESUS."

      Buy large stock of OIL & GREASE holy church members that is your gift from "GOD."

      ANSWER:
      All the BOYS Catholic Priests have been BU**LL**ING for the last 2000Years is recorded in the Computer Age. None shall escape.

      I AM THAT I AM:11111929-11112929.

      The SUN has risen in the WEST.

      Humans must support America and Israel to Murder Muslim Mothers & Daughter, However, where Priest BU**LL Boys we must wash the Priest Sins in the BLOOD of JESUS so he can Bless you and your Children's A**S**S in JESUS HOLY of HOLIES NAME the church..
    • paperbacklucy  •  2 mths ago
      I got teary when I read this because it's just not true. Why doesn't the Vatican understand that if it wants its image cleared up that stopping child abuse within the Catholic church is much better than pretending they don't exist? Oh it just breaks my heart...
    • Elizabeth P  •  Chicago, Illinois  •  2 mths ago
      @GodlessConservative: exactly!! Who are these disgusting a-holes that are giving these comments a thumbs down?? The guilty? Other pedophiles?? Most likely....I feel nauseous just thinking that these poor kids actually have to live through this...I have a 3 year old and a 5 year old and I would commit MURDER if anything like this ever happened to them. I pray for these kids daily. And pray for these monsters to rot in hell. They may not get what they deserve here in this life, but they will most certainly in the next.
      • Dave Miller 2 mths ago
        if you murder your childrens' hypothetical molesters then you will be incarcerated and not available to help your children.
        trust me I have the same nightmare.
    • charlesb  •  Albuquerque, New Mexico  •  2 mths ago
      the pope has been consisitent and relentless in only one thing, the exact opposite of pursuing or removing pedophile priests
    • Lisa  •  Islip, New York  •  3 mths ago
      No pedophile should get special treatment. I don't care if you are a teacher, a priest, a rabbi, a minister, a Boy Scout leader, male or female, all of them should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
      • Chris 3 mths ago
        i disagree.. i think that if you are a priest, a rabbi, a minister, a Boy Scout leader, male or female you should be treated a lot worse.
    • believeroftheway  •  Orlando, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      Is that why he called people whose children were abused "cranky" in Australia in June 2008, when they sought a meeting with him? Including the Foster family whose daughter committed suicide because she was so traumatized by the abuse she suffered at the hands of her Roman Catholic priest and the churches failure to minister to her needs!
    • flyklyn  •  Everett, Washington  •  3 mths ago
      What about the appointment of Boston's former Cardinal B. Law who was appointed to sit as a member of the voting Cardinals.....Law was nortorious for passing along molesting priests from one unsuspecting parish to another.....yet Rome welcomed him when he got the boot in Boston. Law should be sitting out his days in prison, not wrapped in the protective coccoon of he Vatican. Doesn't sound like a get tough on abusers to me!
      • Tas the devil 3 mths ago
        What better man to advise the Vatican as he has the experience. Coverup expert to coverup! Well qualified!
      • Firefly 3 mths ago
        In the past the church ignored scandals. Wait 40 yrs and it was forgotten and most involved dead.

        They don't understand this is the information age. Information will no longer simply be forgotten. Comments like Archbishop Charles Brown's make sure the worst is yet to come for the church.

        To me they just don't care.
    • Marcus  •  Allendale, Michigan  •  2 mths ago
      Pedophile priests represent less than 1% of priests worldwide and yet the mob would hang them all..Thats like saying because a handful of Americans are chomos they all are!! Ridiculous comments by ridiculous people! In Fact, your more likely to encounter a pedophile just about anywhere else...do the math, thats if your capable..Throwing the baby out with the bathwater is a fools en devour!
      • paperbacklucy 2 mths ago
        Not all Catholic priests are evil and corrupt. I have no problem with Catholicism as a faith, Catholics, or Catholic priests who do their job. What I have a problem with is the Vatican. The Vatican not only doesn't fully apologize and acknowledge child abuse by priests IMMEDIATELY when it happens, but they then do nothing to solve the problem. Look up Father Oliver O'Grady. He was moved around California 5 times AFTER he even wrote a letter apologizing to a family for touching their daughter inappropriately, and that letter was given to the Bishop of Stockton! All they did was move him around! He's supposed to have had victims that number into the hundreds!

        Think about it. You say that less than 1% of priests worldwide are pedophiles. According to Our Sunday Visitor’s Catholic Almanac 2006, there are 405,450 worldwide. 1% of that number is 4,054.5. That means that a little less than 4,054 priests have abused at least 1 child. AT LEAST. That is a little less than 4,054 children's lives destroyed, not to mention their families. It's not just about the abuse--it's also about someone who is supposed to be the voice and authority of God suddenly violating a child. That person who is committing a sin against them is supposed to be their only way to reach God. That has to be one of the most abominable crimes I have ever heard of in my life not just for the physical abuse, but also for the psychological and spiritual abuse that goes along with it.

        Again, this isn't about a vendetta against Catholicism. This is about the members of the hierarchy of the Catholic Church who are charged with ensuring that Christ's sacrifice of dying for human sin is renewed and repeated every mass not acknowledging the horrific sin being committed by its own kind.
    • j  •  Las Vegas, Nevada  •  3 mths ago
      The Catholic Church has damaged it's credibility beyond repair with the continuous and constant priest abuse of children. They still protect the guilty by moving them from parish to parish. I know Catholics that totally revolted by these ongoing crimes of the Church. The church is losing membership over this and still they hide their head in the sand.
      • marino 3 mths ago
        what you just wrote is totally false...any priest accused of abuse is reported to the law.....just so you know the church gained 30 million new member just last year......abuse is a crime of society...whoever commits this crime gos to jail
      • catcher 3 mths ago
        The Church credibility has NOT been damaged beyond repair. Do you say the same thing about Penn State? Or any school that has had a molester on their payroll? You don't throw out the whole thing just repair and replace.
      • The Big One 3 mths ago
        I agree, the Church's credibility isn't damage like beyond repair, but what they did will always be remembered in the history books just like how religion was used to convert and almost destroy the ancient cultures like the Mayans, Incas, Hawaii, Native Americans, the list goes on. Martin Luther? That was started because the Church was selling tickets to go into Heaven.
    • Steuxbert  •  Cleveland, Ohio  •  3 mths ago
      It is truly tragic that pedophiles exist and prey on the children of the world. It is even more tragic when any church or organization recognizes specific instances of abuse and allows it to continue by ignoring it or moving the pedophiles on to new locations with the full comprehension that it will continue. So for the post from the person who prays for us, save your prayers for the children of the world who have had their lives destroyed by the pedophiles who kept preying upon children even after their crimes were exposed.
    • WyldBronk  •  Lake Havasu City, Arizona  •  3 mths ago
      Oust them? Really? Merely oust them? They should be going to prison!
    • jig  •  Salt Lake City, Utah  •  3 mths ago
      Find these people and prosecute them to the full extent possible.
    • The Big One  •  3 mths ago
      Too bad, the abusive priest should have never happen in the first place. So what if those men are priest of God, they should have been arrested like any rapist thats on the street.
    • Free Thinker  •  Los Angeles, California  •  3 mths ago
      I have heard all sorts of experts in here. Those of us that lived it are on solid ground to sound off. Im not a hater of catholics. In fact im a recovering catholic myself.
      Anyone that says "not all priest are molesters". I agree with you 100% not all are.....but everyone of them had to have heard about another priest sometime in their career. It is a small fraternity of men. just think how fast gossip travels within your own circle....everyone reputation precedes them when they are transferred. they are no different.
      THEY KNEW.....THEY ALL KNEW AND DID NOTHNG ABOUT IT!!!
    • MC  •  Newark, New Jersey  •  3 mths ago
      P.S. I wish to add, I believe if there is evidence to that effect, all abusers should be handed over, prosecuted and sentenced to jail.
    • smalldar  •  Los Angeles, California  •  3 mths ago
      It just makes me so mad when these Catholics try to make excuses for these pedophile priests by saying if the church would allow them to marry, they would not molest children. Many pedophiles ARE married and have children of their own. Some men will even marry women with small children so that they can molest the children. I've had friends whose step-father's molested them, even biological fathers. I honestly believe that some of these sickos even have children just so they could abuse them. I read story where a man raped his 6 month old daughter and she died from the injuries. Marriage does not cure anyone of perversion.
    • charles  •  New York, New York  •  3 mths ago
      What about taking accountability for the abuse that has already happen and putting the priest that are guilty in prison instead of hiding them and giving them their pensions.
    • Dave  •  3 mths ago
      Instead being concerned about just ousting them, here is a radical idea, how about prosecuting with the laws that are put in place already!
    • crow  •  Tampa, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      Actions speak louder than words .If I knew of any children being raped or abused in my houses,not only would I have them arrested ,i would more than likley seek my own justice to make sure the abusers will never have the privalage of human contact again!
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