Israel: Nuclear Iran could deter military action

If Iran blew Israel off the map....and then Israel blew Iran off the map...it wouldn't bother me in the least......in fact it would probably be a good thing for the world....

Paranoid about all those around you?
Genetic flaw?

Must really suck to be so disliked by all your neighbors and
afraid of them, too.
If everyone else is 'wrong',
likely a faulty perspective.

O.K. folks this is going to be (or what I believe atm) is going to be my last post tonight as I have stuff to do. I want to leave the rational peace loving people with this thought.

The best way to defend yourself is NOT to be in a fight in the first place. If you unnecessarily start a fight that you end up being hurt in albeit win, then you end up leaving the fight with less than you would've had had you not been in the fight in the first place which is less than you had to begin with. Iran and Israel both know that if Iran were to unlawfully attack Israel unprovoked that the ENTIRE WORLD including myself would support Israel against it, and given the fact that much of the west is itching for a reason to attack it wouldn't risk its own obliteration. In fact there is no country in recorded history that with full knowledge that it would bring its own demise ever started a war, so to argue that Iran will be the first is an arbitrary statement with no source pool of data to draw a conclusion from. The same holds for all countries with nuclear weapons that have used proxies in conflicts which is ALL. None have ever given their weapons to any of their proxies (and many have used proxies throughout the years. Pakistan which is India's enemy has many proxies it could use against India, the US used the mujahadeen as a proxy against the Soviet Union and there are numerous other examples I can give) , so to argue that Iran will be the first (assuming it ever builds nuclear weapons) is again arbitrary and without a source pool of data to draw a conclusion from. Thus it can be said will reasonable certainty that Iran will not attack Israel if not attacked first, nor if it ever became a nuclear weapon state give a nuclear weapon to any proxy ESPECIALLY since the result would be the same i.e. Iran's obliteration. Israel knows this. Add to this the fact that Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons, and Iran has never attacked or went to war with Israel nor has Iran attacked another country unprovoked in centuries. Given the weight of all these facts to claim Iran is going to attack Israel unprovoked is ARBITRARY.

Knowing this, if Israel still attacks Iran then it CERTAINLY isn't for defense (because like I said the best way to defend yourself is NOT to be in a fight in the first place), but because Israel wants something from Iran that doesn't belong to Israel. One doesn't need to like the other to live and let live, but the one who attacks FIRST will let us know who the villian/thief of this story is.

Good night and G-d Bless all.

Let's be even-handed in the Middle East. If Israel has nucs, then it's fine for Iran to have them. It might make the Zionists think twice before continuing to using Palestinian for target practice.

if Isreal can have nukes why not iran?

Preemptively attacking anyone who may or may not represent a threat at some future time is a really expensive way to run your foreign policy. It also can have unforeseen consequences. If we had not overthrown the democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran and installed the Shah, there likely would have been no Iranian Islamic revolution, no hostage crisis, and no Iranian theocracy to begin with.

So how long do we have before someone finally drops the big bomb and sparks off the end of the world? How is it that the ones who are, and forever will be in charge are the ones that are the most unstable and unfit to lead? It disgusts me how out of control things have become. How ever did the world get like this?

looks more and more like war with iran

Israel has already made up their mind...Start storing water and food...This is going to get ugly fast!

Acute Mind , you are only partly right . But however , why do you simply think Iran will get obliterated ? What makes you so sure that Iran won't fight back ?. And does any one have proof that Iran isnt already nuclear weaponised ? They could have bought a weapon from N.korea long ago ,or from russia . They have long hated Isreal yet have still not attacked, the same can't be said the other way round . You poem is right in many ways but Isreal and its allies simply want a region in which they can have some say in.
Eshrel of Isreal is saying the a Nuclear armed Iran will set off a nuclear arms race in the middle east but long before his statement , Isreal's policy of ''ambiguity'' on nukes and its insistence that it (isreal) would not be the first country to ''Introduce'' nuclear weapons in the middle east is quite contradictory.

It's basic game theory. If Iran has a nuke, war is, in many cases, less likely. But while they're still in the process of building one, Israel wants to exploit their first strike advantage and take down Iran's nuclear facilities. But they need to look ahead to the future. Do they really think that they can keep Iran from getting a nuclear weapon for all the rest of time? They have two options: war or peace. If they're too proud to seek the latter, then my only hope is that they go in alone and that they don't drag the US into that mess with them.

Perhaps Israel and Iran can both agree a nuclear disarmament. Or is it a midwinter night dream?

How you would react to the Head of Homeland Security if he or she were a dual national with citizenship in Iran, Lebanon or Saudi Arabia? Ask yourself why you don’t feel the same about Israeli dual citizenship.

The best example of dual citizenship can be seen by looking Jonathan Jay Pollard's story.
Pollard was an American-Israeli citizen who worked for the US government. He is well known because he stole more secrets from the U.S. than has any other spy in American history. During his interrogation Pollard said he felt compelled to put the “interests of my state” ahead of his own. Although as a U.S. Navy counter-intelligence specialist he had a top-secret security clearance, by “my state” he meant the state of Israel.

Tody, literally tens of thousands of Americans holding U.S. passports admit they feel a primary allegiance to the state of Israel. In many instances, these Americans vote in Israeli elections, wear Israeli uniforms and fight in Israeli wars. Many are actively engaged both in the confiscation of Palestinian lands and in the Israeli political system.

In a study several years ago about who really runs the American government, the following American-Isreali Dual Citizens serving in the American Government had been identified:
1.Attorney General – Michael Mukasey
2. Head of Homeland Security – Michael Chertoff
3. Chairman Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Richard Perle
4. Deputy Defense Secretary (Former) – Paul Wolfowitz
5. Under Secretary of Defense – Douglas Feith
6. National Security Council Advisor – Elliott Abrams
7. Vice President Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff (Former) – “Scooter” Libby
8. White House Deputy Chief of Staff – Joshua Bolten
9. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs – Marc Grossman
10. Director of Policy Planning at the State Department – Richard Haass
11. U.S. Trade Representative (Cabinet-level Position) – Robert Zoellick
12. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – James Schlesinger
13. UN Representative (Former) – John Bolton
14. Under Secretary for Arms Control – David Wurmser
15. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Eliot Cohen
16. Senior Advisor to the President – Steve Goldsmith
17. Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary – Christopher Gersten
18. Assistant Secretary of State – Lincoln Bloomfield
19. Deputy Assistant to the President – Jay Lefkowitz
20. White House Political Director – Ken Melman
21. National Security Study Group – Edward Luttwak
22. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Kenneth Adelman
23. Defense Intelligence Agency Analyst (Former) – Lawrence (Larry) Franklin
24. National Security Council Advisor – Robert Satloff
25. President Export-Import Bank U.S. – Mel Sembler
26. Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families – Christopher Gersten
27. Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs – Mark Weinberger
28. White House Speechwriter – David Frum
29. White House Spokesman (Former) – Ari Fleischer
30. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Henry Kissinger
31. Deputy Secretary of Commerce – Samuel Bodman
32. Under Secretary of State for Management – Bonnie Cohen
33. Director of Foreign Service Institute – Ruth Davis

Mind you, this is a small percentage of names on the list and there are numerous spies that I could name. The only question is why do Jews have a special claim to dual citizenship which have been denied by the Supreme Court to Mexicans and other nationalities :O

What is wrong with this world....why can't everyone just live in peace and mind their own business. I'm sure the "Ole Devil" is just having a field day with situation!

Isn't that the point?

War is a very expensive and unpredictable way to solve a dispute. Does anyone remember Cheney reacting in disbelief at the suggestion that the Iraq war could go on for years and cost hundreds of billions of dollars? He was right to react in disbelief. It went on for a decade and cost over a trillion and counting. Iran possibly developing a nuclear weapon is not good, but Israel and Iran at war is worse.

NOW let,s see what is happening around our world : Syria in a civil war, Afghanistan at war, Iraq starting a civil war, Israel and the US almost at war with Iran, Russia and China warning any meddling there and or Syria, North Korea and South Korea at conflict the Palestinian fighting for a homeland Mexico fighting a war on drugs, and many more conflicts QUESTION: Is the III World War already started?

It would seem the whole damned world is bent upon destruction..we have met the enemy and he is us!

A nuclear Iran will bring about peace and stability in the ME. There has to be another power to counter nuclear armed Israeli. Israel is a country that has been at war with Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Egypt and still occupies their land. Iran has not invaded a single country as yet. So if a choice is to be made as to who should have nuclear weapons in the ME between these 2 countries, it should be Iran.