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    Job market improves modestly as unemployment falls

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The American job market improved modestly in October, and economists looking deeper into the numbers found reasons for optimism — or at least what counts for optimism in this agonizingly slow economic recovery.

    The nation added 80,000 jobs. That was fewer than the 100,000 that economists expected, but it was the 13th consecutive month of job gains. Fears of a new recession that loomed over the economy this summer have receded.

    The unemployment rate nudged down, to 9 percent from 9.1 in September.

    "Those are pretty good signs," said Michael Hanson, senior economist at Bank of America Merrill Lynch. "We're hanging in there."

    No one looking at Friday's report from the Labor Department saw a quick end to the high unemployment that has plagued the nation for three years. The jobless rate has been 9 percent or higher for all but two months since June 2009.

    The government uses a survey of mostly large companies and government agencies to determine how many jobs were added or lost each month. It uses a separate survey of households to determine the unemployment rate.

    The household survey picked up a much bigger job gain — 277,000 in October, and an average of 335,000 per month for the last three months. The household survey picks up hiring by companies of all sizes, including small businesses.

    The household survey is more volatile and less comprehensive than the other survey, and is not followed as closely by economists. Still, job growth in the household survey has not been this strong for three months since the end of 2006.

    People counting themselves self-employed increased by 200,000 in October, accounting for most of the increase, but it is difficult for economists to explain the three-month trend.

    Economists pointed out other bright spots in the unemployment report:

    — Average hourly wages rose 5 cents a week, to $23.19. More pay for workers means they have more spending power in the economy. Many businesses are waiting for customer demand to pick up before they hire in big numbers again.

    — August and September turned out to be much better months for job creation than first thought. The nation added 104,000 jobs in August and 158,000 in September, a total of 102,000 more than earlier estimates. The August figure was first reported as zero.

    — The number of people considered long-term unemployed, meaning they have been looking for work for at least six months, fell by 366,000, to 5.9 million. That is the fewest since April.

    "Overall, while this report is not good enough, several key numbers are now moving in the right direction," Ian Shepherdson, an economist at High Frequency Economics, a data analysis company, told clients. He said the prospects for the next few months "seem to be improving."

    The job gain was the smallest in four months. And because the population is always growing, it takes many more jobs, about 125,000 a month, to keep up with population growth, more to bring down the unemployment rate.

    The job market turned consistently negative in February 2008. The nation lost jobs for 25 months in a row — almost 8.8 million in all. Since then, the economy has only recovered 2.3 million jobs. The adult nonmilitary population has grown 7.5 million.

    The Federal Reserve earlier this week lowered its economic forecast for the rest of this year, and said unemployment is not expected to fall significantly through the end of next year. It should still be at 8 percent even through 2013, the Fed said.

    President Barack Obama will almost certainly go before voters next November with the highest unemployment of any sitting president seeking re-election since World War II. The highest so far was Gerald Ford, who faced 7.8 percent unemployment in 1976 and lost to Jimmy Carter. Ronald Reagan faced 7.2 percent unemployment in 1984 and beat Walter Mondale in a landslide.

    Obama, appearing at the G-20 economic summit in Cannes, France, said the U.S. economy is growing "way too slow." He repeated his call for Republicans in Congress to pass his $447 billion jobs bill, a mix of tax cuts and spending on roads and rail lines.

    "There's no excuse for inaction," the president said.

    On Thursday, Republicans in the Senate blocked a $60 billion measure for building and repairing infrastructure, the third in a string of defeats for Obama's jobs agenda. Republicans opposed it because it was tied to a tax surcharge for the wealthy and because they said it cost too much.

    Republicans laid blame on Obama and Democrats in Congress for the economy's problems.

    "At virtually every step of the way, President Obama and Democrats have increased uncertainty," said Rep. Kevin Brady, R-Texas. "This has discouraged businesses from making new investments."

    Hiring last month was broad. Professional and business services, which includes the accounting, engineering and temporary help industries, added 32,000 jobs. Hotels, restaurants and entertainment companies added 22,000. Health care added 12,000.

    The construction industry cut 20,000 jobs for the month, the most since January. That industry is examined closely because a pickup in the housing market could add force to the economic recovery.

    The private sector added 104,000 jobs for the month, but state and local governments cut 24,000 jobs, resulting in the net increase of 80,000. State and local governments have cut 288,000 jobs this year. That's unusual for an economic recovery, when state, local and federal governments typically are hiring workers.

    But as the economy recovers and they receive more tax revenue, those layoffs should be limited in the months ahead, said Carl Riccadonna, senior U.S. economist at Deutsche Bank.

    The number of discouraged workers, those who have given up looking for work and are no longer counted as unemployed, is down 47,000 from last year, at about 2.55 million. And there were fewer people with part-time jobs who were looking for full-time work, another positive sign.

    The economy grew at an annual rate of 2.5 percent in July, August and September, its best performance in a year. In the first half of this year, the economy expanded at the slowest pace since the Great Recession ended in June 2009.

    The stronger economy over the summer was powered by consumer spending, which grew three times as fast as it had this spring. Americans spent more even in the face of fears of a new recession and wild gyrations in the stock market.

    Still, companies appear to be waiting for customer demand to pick up even more before they hire again in great numbers. People have been dipping into savings to finance their spending, and that may not be sustainable.

    Companies learned during and after the recession to live with fewer employees. Worker productivity rose from July through September by the most in a year and a half. More productivity is usually good because companies can pay workers more without raising prices. But workers generally are not getting raises this time.

    The Federal Reserve this week lowered its forecast of economic growth to 1.7 percent for this year, down from a forecast of 2.7 percent issued over the summer. It also says unemployment will not come down substantially through the end of 2012.

    The economy has absorbed a series of body blows this year.

    In the spring, the devastating earthquake and tsunami that struck Japan disrupted manufacturing of cars and other products in this country. The price of gas rose to a national average of almost $4 a gallon.

    Then in the summer, Washington was seized by gridlock over whether to raise the borrowing limit for the federal government and how best to tackle the nation's long-term debt problem.

    More recently, economists have fretted over a debt crisis in Europe. Europe buys 20 percent of American exports, so a slowdown there would take a bite out of the U.S. economy, too.

    The Greek prime minister this week called for a surprise popular vote on a European plan to bail out the debt-addled Greek economy. He later backed down, but even if Greece is stabilized, other European economies are weighed down by debt.

    ___

    AP Economics Writer Martin Crutsinger in Washington contributed to this report.

     
    • Sandman  •  6 mths ago
      There is no reason for optimism, the jobs that are created are temporary holiday season jobs. They pay very little and most of them will be gone in January. The same thing happened last year.
    • DaveC  •  Cincinnati, United States  •  6 mths ago
      We should be used to these lies by now. UNemployment is closer to 19% than it is 9%. People are giving up on finding jobs. The only jobs people are finding now are the short term holiday jobs. America will NOT go back to work with oil at $94 a barrel. With pump prices at $3.50 to $4.00 a gallon, people are driving less therefore spending less at America's businesses. Employers are forced to let people go. UNemployment increases and tax revenues drop which means state, city, and local governments suffer. The oil speculators/bankers are making their friends richer every day at our expense and our elected officials do absolutely nothing to stop it. I guarantee you that more than 80,000 people lost their jobs or saw a reduction in pay last month.
      • Suzette 6 mths ago
        my town in Florida, 13.8% unemployment,
        and most likely, 80% UNDER-employed.
        foreclosure homes on every street...
        the forgotten few have become the forgotten few thousand.
      • charles 6 mths ago
        The recession will end when the American people start using their head for more than holding their ears apart when we demand a new law that makes it illegal for American company's to manufacturer goods overseas with the intention of shipping them back here to sell, "the core of this law is SHIPPING BACK TO AMERICAN TO SELL" this has to STOP or we will never see this country back on solid ground again because this is the problem, if this was changed then most of our money problems would be solved and the tax problems along with it, this is why America is broke, just so a few at the top can be rich and powerful, this is more a matter of power than anything for the top fat cats"

        The same thing we had to do when this country first started
        a revolt of the people, I didn't say it would be pretty, it will take some bloodshed, the Corporations are not going to give up their GREED or POWER easily and Congress will stay on the Corporate tit till the people throw then out on their heads, they should be put in prison for treason against the USA and it's citizens
      • LostFarmer 6 mths ago
        It's not due to Corp. greed, it is the greed of the elected politicians.
    • Tony  •  6 mths ago
      There were a 100k jobs in June and unemployment stayed at 9.1% and NOW only 80k jobs created and the unemployment rate goes down..hmmmmm...
    • Solution  •  6 mths ago
      I spend 7 years in California working as a technician and going to school for a #$%$ as electrical engineer. After I graduated with a GPA of 3.7, I wanted to give back to this country that gave me the opportunity to study, but I couldn’t find a job after applying for numerous positions! So finally I decided to go back to Germany, where after a third interview and only 5 weeks of job searching, I got a job as an entry level engineer for BMW.The company figured out that someone speaking few languages and with an engineer degree with a GPA of 3.7, would be a good asset for the company in a mid and long term. I have no idea where the United States is going, but it can’t be good if they don’t care about their engineers!
      • charles 6 mths ago
        The recession will end when the American people start using their head for more than holding their ears apart when we demand a new law that makes it illegal for American company's to manufacturer goods overseas with the intention of shipping them back here to sell, "the core of this law is SHIPPING BACK TO AMERICAN TO SELL" this has to STOP or we will never see this country back on solid ground again because this is the problem, if this was changed then most of our money problems would be solved and the tax problems along with it, this is why America is broke, just so a few at the top can be rich and powerful, this is more a matter of power than anything for the top fat cats"

        The same thing we had to do when this country first started
        a revolt of the people, I didn't say it would be pretty, it will take some bloodshed, the Corporations are not going to give up their GREED or POWER easily and Congress will stay on the Corporate tit till the people throw then out on their heads, they should be put in prison for treason against the USA and it's citizens
      • Gorgon 6 mths ago
        Ship out all the foreign students
      • RAeh98 6 mths ago
        Hey I'm an engineering student at Rutgers right now. ECE 2014. And all of my professors are from india and china. No one wants to do engineering because its hard as hell, you have to give your entire life to mastering it, if you survive, and then when you graduate no one treats like you have done anything.

        But all of the kids from china are dedicated to it, because get this: in their country engineers are ACTUALLY noble, well paid, and well respected.

        The only thing America has right now as far as engineering goes, is our education market. But all of the product from our education market goes to leakage overseas. (because america doesnt have any jobs for these foreigners).
    • Mike  •  Cypress, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Why even report the numbers now when they WILL be "adjusted" in another month or two?
    • Liven-n-iraq  •  6 mths ago
      Since when is 20% short of expectations considered a "moderate improvement"?!
    • Michael  •  White Marsh, United States  •  6 mths ago
      I think it was best summed up by the statement today "Things are so bad, this is good news." Anyone seriously thinking there is meaningful job growth or anything positive to be seen in these job numbers is seriously deluded...
      • Ronald McPaul 6 mths ago
        Ron Paul, 2012! Ron Paul, 2012!
      • Charlie 6 mths ago
        Yeah..."less bad" is still bad. Though if each month continues to be less bad than the previous, maybe the businesses that have been hoarding cash for the past couple years will start to spend some. That's my hope anyway, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
      • LostFarmer 6 mths ago
        Businesses will not spend mush till they know the new cost of the 100rds of new regulations and obamcare.
    • Gary Freedom  •  6 mths ago
      You buy 'Made in China', you support China.
      You buy 'Made in USA', you support United States of America.
      • mad 6 mths ago
        Whats "made in america?" Flags, new balance shoes, coat hangers and a few toys, CRAP!!! We used to make everything but labor cost drove those jobs away and our government gave the OK.
      • dogfishs 6 mths ago
        Kinda like the person that said buy USA products. Hell , nothing is made here now and what ever is they want to charge you an arm and a leg for it! Like catfish. Went from $2.49 a pound to $6.49 a pound overnight! Why the hell should I go broke making these people rich when I can buy the same catfish from a foreign country for half price or less! And meat market man will not discount the USA catfish when it starts getting old but would rather throw it away. Why , they knock it off their income tax as a loss!
    • Chris  •  6 mths ago
      I just lost my job that I loved this week. Its not easy being optimistic.
    • Ben  •  Minneapolis, United States  •  6 mths ago
      More gov. lies. More media lies.
      Unemployment continues to rise.
    • charmonium5  •  Fullerton, United States  •  6 mths ago
      +0.1 % in a month is "moderate improvement! From 9.1 to 9.0 when in most years past gearing up for Seasons shopping and consuming results in huge increases? Such puny efforts to generate spin are laughable.
    • PV  •  6 mths ago
      Yep. Unemployment rate is dropping because the rate only tracks those who are still trying or haven't gone 52 weeks without a job. Wow. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist anymore.

      I was on unemployment once many moons ago. I was on it for exactly three weeks. It was the worst three weeks of my life. I got a job though. And I've had one ever since.
    • Bad Bob  •  Southfield, United States  •  6 mths ago
      So come Monday, the headline will be, unemployment on the rise a little. This crap is boring, wait until it goes up or down a whole point before you get so excited. If the rate goes below 8%, great, let's party
    • Gorgon  •  Seattle, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Wait until January 1 2012 when the WH will announce a major fall in those registering as unemployed. See we did it, they will say but in reality on Dec 31st all Extensions to Unemployment insurance benefit will legally cease as the bill that allowed them, expires and so far no further extension bill has been passed. The millions who are on extensions are also by definition the long-term unemployed. They will cease to register becasue what's the point and they will either give up and fall right off the figures or they will find a job and not be recorded because they are no longer one of the stats. Watch our for all manner of numbers being quoted by Obama and the WH folk. They will not be true.
    • the man  •  6 mths ago
      45.8 million on food stamps unemployment above 9%,federal government is broke,states and municipalities are broke. Yea things are really looking up in Obamaland! Let's vote him in again to finish the job.
    • Softail Rider  •  Killeen, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Companies must realize that people are not widgets. We are people. There are a lot of skilled workers out there that can not get jobs. It is the way companies recruit.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  6 mths ago
      unemployment numbers are counted only for those people who go into the unemployment office and apply for it- all the people who are unemplyed who dont apply are not shown- this we all know the unemployment number is much greater
    • Tim  •  6 mths ago
      where are the 23 dollar an hour average jobs? not in my neck of the woods. maybe 10 dollar an hour average if your lucky
    • A Yahoo! User  •  Harlingen, United States  •  6 mths ago
      This is all lies. There are no jobs out there. There might be a few temp jobs due to Thanks giving and Christmas but Obama just cut a huge amount of civilian gov jobs and now these people are out on the street, these nubers are higher than the jobs he says just entered the market. HEY OBAMA, just because people are getting welfare and unemployment does not mean they are employed by your standards.
    • The Don  •  6 mths ago
      If I choose to support my fellow man and can afford it, I will do so through my Church or charities that I trust. I don't need gov't to take my money, put 90% in their pocket and give the other 10% to the dregs of society that the libs will drive to the polls on election day. Washington lies !!
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