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    Justices unlikely to have last word on health care

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama's historic health care overhaul divided the nation from the day he signed it into law, and that seems unlikely to change no matter how the Supreme Court rules on its constitutionality.

    Some legal disputes, like the 2000 presidential election, the court can settle. Others rage on, such as abortion. It may take another decade to find the balance between private and public responsibility for health care in America, a nation disdainful of big government yet historically unable to guarantee affordable basic coverage to its citizens.

    "Either way it rules, the Supreme Court decision will not end the debate on health care," said former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, an influential Democratic adviser. "It is, and will largely remain, a debate on the role of government."

    The Supreme Court's announcement on Monday that it will take up the constitutional challenge to what Republicans deride as "Obamacare," sets the stage for a decision next summer in the heat of the presidential election campaign.

    But even if the court upholds the law, Republican leaders say "repeal and replace" remains their slogan.

    "Job-killing tax hikes on families and small businesses may well be constitutional — that doesn't mean we would support them," said Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

    House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio remains committed to repealing the overhaul and replacing it with a Republican plan regardless of the Supreme Court ruling, his spokesman said. "We will continue to work to repeal it," said Michael Steel.

    The administration is dug in, too. Publicly, officials say they're confident Obama's plan for covering the uninsured will be upheld to the last comma.

    Privately, there's a Plan B: If the court strikes down the law's unpopular linchpin — the so-called individual mandate requiring most Americans to carry health insurance — the administration would take whatever's left and try to put that in place. That includes a major expansion of Medicaid for low income people, a host of new rules for insurance companies, and cuts for hospitals, drug companies and other providers serving Medicare recipients.

    So far, the law's record is mixed. A provision allowing young adults to remain on their parents' policy until age 26 has been a big success. But the administration had to pull the plug on a long-term care insurance plan that turned out to be financially unsustainable. New programs to help small businesses and people with health problems get coverage have attracted much less enrollment than hoped for. Seniors with high drugs costs are saving money, but some continue to struggle.

    The law's major changes — expanding coverage to more than 30 million uninsured people — are still two years away. The Supreme Court decided to take the case now, after lower courts split and the administration, as well as its opponents, asked for a decisive ruling to clarify the law of the land.

    Of four federal appeals courts that have ruled, two upheld the law, one struck down only the insurance mandate, and one punted, saying it is premature to decide the merits until the main coverage provisions take effect in 2014.

    Appeals courts in the District of Columbia and Cincinnati that upheld the law found that requiring Americans to carry health insurance — even if intrusive — is within the power of Congress to regulate interstate commerce.

    Starting with 2014 tax returns, the law imposes a penalty on those who do not have coverage through an employer or a government program, or through individual purchase. In passing that requirement, a Democratic-led Congress found that the health care system is a major part of the national economy and that insurance can't work if people can postpone getting coverage until they become sick.

    A federal appeals court in Atlanta saw things differently.

    Ruling against the administration in a lawsuit by 26 states, that court found that Congress overstepped its constitutional authority by imposing the insurance mandate. The unprecedented requirement to carry health insurance would force average citizens to buy an expensive product from a private company from cradle to grave, the majority said.

    The immediate impact of a Supreme Court decision in 2012 is likely to be political.

    Upholding the law will be seen as vindication for Obama's approach to governing, said Robert Blendon, a Harvard public health professor who follows opinion trends on health care. "This is not only an issue of whether or not the bill is constitutional, or what is the best public policy," said Blendon. "It's an issue about the judgment of the president."

    At the other end of the spectrum, the Supreme Court could strike down the entire law, validation for Republicans who from the start called it government overreach. But no appeals court has gone that far.

    A mixed verdict would create its own problems. The court could strike down only the insurance mandate, leaving the rest of the law in place. That includes a Medicaid expansion expected to help about 16 million uninsured people, and a prohibition on insurers turning away people with pre-existing health problems or charging them more.

    The demise of the mandate to carry coverage would create a real crisis for the insurance industry. Insurers may be forced to accept patients who apply after getting sick, but at the same time deprived of a larger pool of insured people over which to spread their costs.

    Administration lawyers maintain that if the mandate is struck down, the requirement that insurers accept people in poor health should also be invalidated. But the justices don't have to follow that advice.

    Sooner or later, the whole muddle could wind up back in Congress.

     
    • Rollin Mud Rat  •  New Orleans, United States  •  6 mths ago
      The only way to get good health care is to mandate that congress and the politicians are in the same plan.
      • Jack 6 mths ago
        Actually, any mandated health care system where anyone is outside the mandate, including the president, is immoral and unethical. If it is required of one American it should be required of everyone.
      • Scortch Dearth 6 mths ago
        National health care would do that.
      • CharlieOne 6 mths ago
        There is no exclusion in this law for members of Congress. Go to factcheck dot org and search on ACA Congress. Read the explanation. If you disagree, please provide reliable references to the specifics in the law that exempt Congress. It is time to stop repeating this misinformation.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  6 mths ago
      Crazy world
      • Devin 6 mths ago
        House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio saying he will continue to repel and replace no matter what is a very dangerous statement considering exactly what the supreme court may say in its ruling. They always say more then yes or no and the rest of their ruling may very well go against what he wants.
      • ILLUMINAZI WHITE HOUSE 6 mths ago
        Senators were bribed to pass the massive unconstitutional healthcare bill ! 95% of our politicians are brought out and paid for to screw AMERICA.
      • JC is king of kings 6 mths ago
        "bigbrother" happens to be named CAIN (the biblical 1st murderer) "Am I my brothers keeper?" N.A.F.T.A.(liberal bill clintons baby) has ruined our economy,you could here the "SUCK" of the vacuum as the jobs left....now liberal barak obama final death blow to our sovereignty is mandated "health care" ran by same BIGBROTHER that cannot run medicade/medicare,social security,post office,cannot balance ANY BUDGET ! EVER ! DO YOU PEOPLE NOT GET IT? The whole point of the exercise is to make everyone a "LAWBREAKER" (so many laws & taxes that NO ONE CAN fulfill) thereby taking away your FREEDOMS ! Remember " the CONSTITUTION is a pesky problem" to the liberals by there own admission ! Havard is the COMMUNIST haven and they're going right down the "check list" of the communist manifesto as updated by American communist party (of which obama & hiliary are a part of )
    • observer  •  6 mths ago
      Any law that exempts Congress and Federal employees should be unconstitutional of its' face.
      • Middle Man 6 mths ago
        They all have healthcare insurance.
      • mytea 6 mths ago
        thats right, if anyone is exempt than something is fishy about it...
      • observer 6 mths ago
        @Middle Man: They are exempt from all provisions of this law.
    • Jesse  •  6 mths ago
      I wouldn't have a problem with any of this law if it was to provide Americans the same health care benefits for same cost as our governement officials receive... They should be forced into the same plan...
      • David 6 mths ago
        What or who tells you that they are not?
      • Tom 6 mths ago
        any coverage is better than no coverage, if you don't believe that ask any person with no health insurance
      • Seattle 6 mths ago
        Tom...anyone without health insurance still gets treated and the rest of us PAY for it! obummer is out on his a$$ in 2012...
    • Bob  •  6 mths ago
      The headline says it all.
      We're in deep trouble in this country.
      • syscokid 6 mths ago
        Of course we are in deep trouble. That is what happens when we citizens continually ask the government to provide for us. Stop asking the government for a better mouse trap. If we get government out of our personal lives we will be better off.
      • Jim 6 mths ago
        Bob, we really are and the senate under Reid and pelosie got us further into debt, which the president does not want to address by wanting to spend more after his failures. If we as individuals operated that way, there certainly would be a lot more bankruptcies in the US.
      • average citizen 6 mths ago
        got any answers bob?
    • joe  •  Scranton, United States  •  6 mths ago
      take away congressional healthcare see how they feel about it
    • Ugh  •  6 mths ago
      Until the real issue of costs is addressed through tort reform, drug patent reform/importation and catching the thieves, the rest of it is arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Medical costs are bankrupting us.
    • George  •  6 mths ago
      Hundreds of Unions have already gotten exemptions from Obamacare. Why did they do that? Inferior to what they have now?
    • Segundo Blue  •  6 mths ago
      The Constitution limits the powers of each of the three branches of Government. None of the three were given the power to mandate health care for the sheeple who won't even stand up and force the Feds to adhere to said Constitution. Soap box, ballot box and as a last resort, the cartridge box. Figure it out Supreme Court.
    • Doug C  •  6 mths ago
      We need some type of health care plan that anyone can buy into at a reasonable cost. But Washginton DC is not the answer. Just look at the mess the Medicaid system is in. 60 billion in waste and fraud, that goes for anything that you elected officials run or should I say ruin.
    • Military Vet  •  Herndon, United States  •  6 mths ago
      The whole thing has been a massive waste of time and resources. People want jobs.
    • Conservative Gal  •  6 mths ago
      I want the same coverage as ex senator (D) Tom Daschle gets....
      400 dollars... PER YEAR, for him and his wife... FOR LIFE.
    • vegas  •  Columbia, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Show me where in the Constitution it gives the power to Congress to FORCE SOMEONE to engage in COMMERCE.
    • James  •  6 mths ago
      Everything the federal governmetn does is a failure.Consider this : The Department of Energy was created in 1977 to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year and we import more oil than ever before. You had 34 years to get it right and it is an abysmal failure. It is now being used against every natural energy source that America has to make us even more dependant on foreign oil.
    • observer  •  6 mths ago
      "The road to Hell, is paved with good intentions".
      The problem with this law is that if upheld, there would be no limits on what the government could mandate under the guise of the "commerce clause".
    • kjack5  •  6 mths ago
      I am one democrat who would like for it not to pass in its present form. The insurance companies already charge too much and if they have a captive market they will charge even more. It should be a voluntary market like capitalism supposedly is.
    • Peter  •  Wichita Falls, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Having been healthy all my life I never realized what it cost to be sick till earlier this year when I had a heart attack. 2 1/2 days in the hospital, installation of a stent = $53,000 plus throw in the medication I have to now take which is $250 a month, no wonder health insurance is so expensive. Unless I have missed something Mr. Obama's healthcare plan doesn't even address this part of the problem.
    • Stevo  •  Tampa, United States  •  6 mths ago
      i've seen my health insurance coverage of 100% dwindle over the past 10 years, down to the equivalent of not having any health insurance at all. If i get sick and need treatment beyond standard meds, i have to come up with $5k each and every year before i get any financial assistance from my health insurance. Even though i'm considered middle class I have never been able to accumulate $500 in savings, let alone $5k, so it's the same as going from 100% to zero%, meaning no real health coverage. The office visits and the meds i get for everyday maintenance i could pay out of pocket cheaper than my premiums cost me each month. There is no real benefit from having health insurance unless you can easily come up with $5K or $10k of out of pocket each and every year. All of this is left out of any equation mandating coverage. I'm insured but don't have any coverage, or used to have coverage but don't any more. Health insurance is a Joke.
    • Dave  •  6 mths ago
      Just because the congress voted for something does not mean it is right!?!?

      What if next month congress votes that minorities have to pay for white people's health insurance?
    • SportzMama120  •  Santa Maria, United States  •  6 mths ago
      This administration is also oppossed to opening the purchasing of insurance across state lines. I don't get it. They want to force us to buy insurance, but limit our choices of who to buy from. Retarted!!
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