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    LA abuse charges prompt awkward talks for parents

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — Sinister allegations of abuse by at least two teachers in a Los Angeles school have forced awkward discussions as parents warn youngsters that people they trust — pastors, teachers, even relatives — might do things that could hurt them.

    It was a grim reminder of risks faced by kids, even within the safety of school walls.

    Sergio Vasquez, 30, said he talked with his daughter for 45 minutes after she watched a news report about the disturbing cases that prompted the Los Angeles Unified School District to replace every employee at Miramonte Elementary School, located in a poor neighborhood about 8 miles from downtown.

    With his 8-year-old daughter Hayley at his side, he said he told her to speak up if she sees anything suspicious, or if any teacher tries to manipulate her by giving her candy, or touching her hair or shoulders.

    "We told her her body is private and nobody has the right to touch her," said Vasquez, as he stood outside an elementary school near downtown. "No teacher should put his hands on you and tell you 'Oh how beautiful you are.'"

    Kari Morales, who lives in the city's Echo Park neighborhood, teaches her 5- and 6-year-old children about keeping up a guard.

    "It's necessary, especially now, with priests, with anybody. You can't trust anybody. I talk to my kids all the time," she said. "I just tell my kids, 'If you feel something is not right, you need to say something.'"

    On Wednesday, investigators revealed they seized 200 additional inappropriate photographs of children allegedly taken by teacher Mark Berndt, who is accused of blindfolding and gagging students and having some eat cookies iced with his semen. A second teacher, Martin Springer, faces three lewdness charges for allegedly fondling a second-grader.

    Both teachers have been fired.

    The line between what is appropriate and what's not can sometimes be difficult for younger children to discern — Berndt is accused of feeding semen to children during bizarre "tasting games" in his classroom over a five-year period.

    "A big challenge is parents will often emphasize 'stranger danger' when talking with children, but we know the biggest risk to kids is from people they trust," said Thomas Lyon, a professor of law and psychology at the University of Southern California, who has researched child witnesses and abuse and worked as an attorney on child-abuse cases.

    Young children don't need a scientific anatomy lesson, he said. They need to know "if they feel weird, if they touch them in a certain place, how important it is for them to tell a parent."

    He added: "You have to emphasize to your child that you will not get angry with them for anything they've done. Otherwise, the child will say, 'Why should I tell?'"

    It's a persistent problem. According to the state Commission on Teacher Credentialing, 365 cases involving allegations of adult sexual offenses in schools were opened in the five years ending last June.

    Initially, the Los Angeles school district fielded a steady stream of calls from alarmed parents at Miramonte, after details of the bizarre case trickled out. Los Angeles County Sheriff's Sgt. Dan Scott said the department has received dozens of tips following the arrests of Berndt and Springer.

    "At this point, all I can tell you is there's a lot," Scott said.

    But officials in several neighboring counties said the Los Angeles arrests have not caused a surge in fearful calls from parents or new reports of suspected abuse.

    Berndt, 61, taught for 32 years at the South Los Angeles neighborhood school, where the 120-member staff, from janitors to principal, was replaced following outrage among parents. Springer, 49, pleaded not guilty Tuesday after he was charged with committing three lewd acts upon one girl in 2009.

    Molly Gomez, 31, said she told her son to tell her if anyone touches him inappropriately. Her 10-year-old boy, who has autism, has struggled with bullying at school and doesn't understand why he can't walk to school by himself like other kids his age.

    "I don't know if he understood me," she said, adding that she planned to talk with him again.

    ___

    Associated Press writers Noaki Schwartz and Greg Risling contributed to this report.

     

    47 comments

    • Rogue  •  Flagstaff, Arizona  •  3 mths ago
      When they teach a homosexual appreciation class in elementary school it's no wonder those kids don't know what is right or wrong behavior for a teacher.
    • DENNIS  •  3 mths ago
      Anyone touching a child in anyway, under any circumstance can be misinterpreted by anyone at anytime. Whether it be complimentary, an act of a danger/safety situation or just common, normal conversation.

      Touching can be viewed by different people in different ways. May be it should be that no person (husband/wife, parent/child, friend/child, priest/child, teacher/child, law enforcement/child/ emergency/child, doctor/child, etc.) should be allowed to touch another in anyway under any circumstances.

      Or we can be wise people and act accordingly with a smart sense.
    • Rogue  •  Flagstaff, Arizona  •  3 mths ago
      Thank the local teachers union for protecting and enabling these monsters. They will still get their pensions and even if they are found unfit to be around children they will still have to be paid.
    • Ashley  •  Timmins, Canada  •  3 mths ago
      People who would do this to a child do not deserve to live, period.
    • Slowpoke Rodriguez  •  3 mths ago
      I am confused, two teachers did this but fire ALL the teachers? Are the administrators fired?
      • DatDude 3 mths ago
        From a story I read earlier they didn't fire all the other teachers, they replaced them and separated the others throughout the school district
    • anita  •  Smithfield, North Carolina  •  3 mths ago
      The teacher taught for 32 years at the same school .the school took the correct action in fireing all teachers and staff because they let this go for so long a time without stepping forward any of them to protect the little ones.May justice prevail.
    • jsf  •  3 mths ago
      Teachers are not allowed to tie kids up even without sexual touching. It would never have occurred to me to tell my young children that no one is allowed to tie them up. How much detail do we have to go into about the NONsexual things that are forbidden?
    • david  •  3 mths ago
      How sad our world has become that we have to teach our children to always be aware of who they talk too, even a preacher/priest, at school/home/church, the very places our children should feel safe!
      These predators are out there looking for our children every day, it is a terrible place for a parent to be right now we can not protect them twenty-four hours a day. It is even harder to have these"talks with our childrens"we don't want them to be scared to death of everyone.
    • Charlie  •  Atlanta, Georgia  •  3 mths ago
      Best wishes and much concern for any of the victims. Who knows how many there are from this freak. Truly awful. Tasting games? What a sick slime ball. Good for Miramonte that so many are working together to help.
    • mac marine  •  Sacramento, California  •  3 mths ago
      I went on a road trip with this young lady that I have known for many years, we left Guadalajara headed for Folsom California. Long trip and to make matters worse we stopped just outside Guadalajara for some food. Bad luck mi amigo and it was Montazumas revenge with, well, a vengence of course. Between hitting every Pemex station on either side of the road for the next 500 miles my amiga told me this story.
      Her sister had an afair with one of her High school teachers and I think the guy was in his early 30's, sis was 16 or 17, I'm not really sure. Sis's father was an Officer and soon to be General so I ask what dad had done about this. Her response bothered me for years and I lost the respect that I had for her father, not at first, because I had trouble figuring it out but eventually I figured it out. Dad knew that he would never survive the review process if the General Officer's selection board knew about this situation. In the military they figure that if you can't control your personal life then you can't be trusted with command responcibility, Least you end up with videos of your troops posing with SS memorabilia or urinating on dead muslims. Either way her dad sold her out by keeping this quite, I was only a sergeant but if someone was doing that to my daughter I would have not been so acommadating.
      • Jeremy 3 mths ago
        TL;DR
      • Ken 3 mths ago
        Yeah, no clue what the hell you're rambling about, but it obviously has nothing useful to contribute here, so moving on...
      • Beth 3 mths ago
        What are you on?
    • veela  •  Oshkosh, Wisconsin  •  3 mths ago
      Why should talking with our children about sex and inappropriate actions be considered "awkward"? I first had this kind of discussion with my daughter when she was four and was starting preschool. We have "reminder discussions" whenever her father and I have found it to be appropriate. It's important for kids to be aware.
    • Ken  •  Albany, New York  •  3 mths ago
      I don;t understand why they chose to fire/transfer ALL the teachers? This was only done by what, one person? Or are they trying to say the whole school district was some bizarre cult of child rapists or something?
      • Jeremy 3 mths ago
        I agree; the article says they let every one go, even the janitor? #$%$ Did he let the guy use his broom closet and not tell or something?
    • ucnada  •  3 mths ago
      the school obviously had a policy of don´t ask don´t tell.
    • The Christian Conservativ ...  •  3 mths ago
      Sexual abouse in American homes is far greater than the scandals being reported about priests, and teachers. I've met woman who were sexually abused growing up at home by their own brothers, fathers, and stepfathers. Incest within the family is more widespread than you may think.
    • papa_smurph  •  3 mths ago
      Aren't any of these creeps i jail?
    • jsf  •  3 mths ago
      Of COURSE you will get angry with your kids for some things they have done. But tell them you will never get mad at them for anything they do because some other adult told them to.
    • MediaScrutiny  •  3 mths ago
      "Both teachers have been fired."
      And one can Surmise that it was with Full Pension Benefits, Paid Health Insurance, Compensation for Unused Personal/Sick Days/Vacation Time and other Perks that we don't know about thanks to the Teacher's Unions whose Comments are Suspiciously Absent in this Article.
      • Denise 3 mths ago
        Hate to burst your hateful bubble, but in the district I work in this type of firing comes with loss of all of those things. The union in this case probably realizes that it's in everybody's best interest not to fight it. I'm more interested in the idea that police investigated this for a full year before the arrest. How many kids got hurt in that year?
      • MediaScrutiny 3 mths ago
        Denise:
        Sorry to disappoint you, but there's no "hateful bubble" here for you to burst.
        Ever hear of the "rubber room"?
        There was a NYC Typing Teacher who was Sequestered there due to "charges" from students, and rather than Retire (he was in his 60's) he decided to Keep Collecting his $100,000 +/year salary by sitting around and doing nothing.
        Perhaps your Local Union actually Cares more about the Kids and the Taxpayers than the Teachers. That would be an exception to the rule like in NYC or Chicago.
    • Arthur  •  3 mths ago
      When I was in the first 6 years of elemntary I nor anyone else that I was ware of had things like this happen. Didn't even know what having sex was until Junior High school. All my parents ever said about such was "keep it in your pants" which made sense because you didn't go out of the house with your weenie dangling. And in school, the boys went in one restroom and the girls went into another, both were not monitored by an adult that I was aware of.
    • Turf Fergy  •  3 mths ago
      Gee, parents talking to their kids, that's a shame.Too bad it took such an awful event to make it happen..........
    • Shelley Clements  •  Grand Rapids, Michigan  •  3 mths ago
      It's just hard to believe this went on for five years.... disgusting!
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