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    Latest developments in debt ceiling standoff

    With hours remaining before the deadline, Congress on Tuesday raised the federal borrowing limit or the government would have run out of money and possibly defaulted on its debt.

    Tuesday's developments: The Senate, by a 74-26 vote, passed emergency legislation to avoid a first-ever government default. President Barack Obama signed it about an hour later. The measure trims spending by more than $2 trillion, and the debt ceiling itself would rise by nearly the same amount. No tax increases were included in the deal.

    Markets react: The stock market was preoccupied with signs of weakness in the economy, and the Dow dropped more than 200 points. The passage of the measure on the debt ceiling apparently reinforced general worries about the economy.

    What's next: Obama signaled that Congress still needs to find a balanced approach to reducing the deficit that includes some adjustments to Medicare and reforming the tax code so the wealthy pay more. A new bipartisan super committee of 12 lawmakers picked over the next two weeks will start the search for at least $1.2 trillion more in deficit cuts over the next decade.

    Moody's Investors Service says the United States will retain its triple-A bond rating following passage of legislation to boost the debt ceiling. But the rating agency says it is lowering the outlook for possible future changes to negative.

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    Some background:

    Q: What is the debt ceiling?

    A: It's a legal limit on how much debt the government can accumulate. The government takes on debt two ways: It borrows money from investors by issuing Treasury bonds, and it borrows from itself, mostly from the Social Security trust fund, which comes from payroll taxes. Congress created the debt limit in 1917. It's unique to the United States. Most countries let their debts rise automatically when government spending outpaces tax revenue. Congress has increased the debt limit 10 times since 2001.

    Q: What is the federal deficit, and how does it differ from the debt?

    A: The deficit is how much government spending exceeds tax revenue during a year. Last year, the deficit was $1.29 trillion. The debt is the sum of deficits past and present. Right now, the national debt totals $14.3 trillion — a ceiling set in 2010.

    Q: Why is the prospect of not raising the debt ceiling so worrisome?

    A: The government now borrows more than 40 cents of each dollar it spends. If the debt ceiling does not rise, the government would need to choose what to pay and what not, including benefits like Social Security, wages for the military or other bills. It also might delay interest payments on Treasury bonds. Any default could lead to financial panic weakening the country's credit rating, the dollar and the already hobbled economy. Interest rates would likely rise, increasing the cost of borrowing for the government and ordinary Americans.

    Q: Who holds the $14.3 trillion in outstanding U.S. debt?

    A: The U.S. government owes itself $4.6 trillion, mostly borrowed from Social Security revenues. The remaining $9.7 trillion is owed to investors in Treasury securities — banks, pension funds, individual investors, state and local governments and foreign investors and governments. Nearly half of that — $4.5 trillion — is held by foreigners including China with $1.15 trillion and Japan with $907 billion.

    Q: How did the debt grow from $5.8 trillion in 2001 to its current $14.3 trillion?

    A: The biggest contributors to the nearly $9 trillion increase over a decade were:

    —2001 and 2003 tax cuts under President George W. Bush: $1.6 trillion.

    —Additional interest costs: $1.4 trillion.

    —Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan: $1.3 trillion.

    Economic stimulus package under Obama: $800 billion.

    —2010 tax cuts, a compromise by Obama and Republicans that extended jobless benefits and cut payroll taxes: $400 billion.

    —2003 creation of Medicare's prescription drug benefit: $300 billion.

    —2008 financial industry bailout: $200 billion.

    —Hundreds of billions less in revenue than expected since the Great Recession began in December 2007.

    —Other spending increases in domestic, farm and defense programs, adding lesser amounts.

     

    851 comments

    • Brian  •  9 mths ago
      If my personnal debt to income rate looked like this I couldn't get a loan - neither should the U.S.A.
    • Michael T  •  9 mths ago
      I really believe that this is just a distraction to hide something major that is going on.
      • Boudicca 9 mths ago
        i agree
      • Robert 9 mths ago
        your right, there is always something else going on we are not being tolded thats how capitolism works. thats the M.O.
    • Boudicca  •  9 mths ago
      They should never, ever "borrowed" (lol) from Social Security revenues~~that is not theirs to take.
      This whole thing is like a very, very bad Hollywood movie~~what do they think we are, stupid?
      • patPUKEcanon 9 mths ago
        Yes
      • Ernie 9 mths ago
        The republicans are so arrogant that Yes, they think you are completely stupid.
      • hoolagan 9 mths ago
        Ernie, sounds as if any one can get one over you..
    • HHH  •  10 mths ago
      Social Security is our national pension. Its funds have been accumulated by the yield of our labor. As a contributor of a portion of the funds in this account I have never given anyone the right to extract any monies. We have also never laid out a term or interest rates for any funds that have been borrowed from this account. As contributors to this account we need to demand the accounting of these funds and most importantly how many loans, there amounts and the dates that funds have been taken out by the US government. It is time to file a class action lawsuit against the US government for the repayment of all of the funds they allocated from Social Security. As holders of funds in this account we have that right.
      • BEAUTIFUL 9 mths ago
        you are so right ..i worked all my life in a factory to have my little check ..so i agree with 100 per cent
      • Scythe Falling 9 mths ago
        So where were you when the government first started doing this? May be too late now to fix it...
      • stirandsavor 9 mths ago
        ........plus interest and 100% penalty
    • CZ  •  10 mths ago
      You dont need to "raise" taxes. Just close all the f"in loop holes you voted for your buddies, quit the stupid wars that cant be won while killing and maiming tens of thousands and bankrupting the country. You could also stop the hundreds of millions in "ear marks" pet projects for your home districts that benefit a few special folks back home. We all know how we got here. We all know its got to stop. Its your job to represent the PEOPLE, not act as if you won the lottery when elected. If you cant or wont do the job then you should resign NOW.
      • Peggy 10 mths ago
        and while you are at it, do away with any credit that allows you to receive a refund if you were not due one to begin with!!!
    • Black Bart  •  9 mths ago
      Nero fiddles while Rome burns
      Enjoy your birthday party, el Presidente
    • Charles  •  10 mths ago
      Let it be known, I will not vote for ANYONE that cuts Social Security. Pay the fund back the money it is owed. Remember, 41% of the voters are over 55, and we vote! Get it together congress.
      • J Urban 10 mths ago
        If our government doesn't balance the budget and stop spending so much, which Democrats do not want to do, you will not have any social security in the next 5 to 10 years regardless how much you paid in .
    • Danny  •  10 mths ago
      Right there you are telling us that the real reason Social security has a problem is because the government is borrowing from it. In other words they are taking money out of our retirement program to do as they wish any time they deem it necessary. I would say that reaks of fraud and deception for it is deemed a protected retirement fund. Secondly, leaving this at the last minute and the public squabbles and the threats and just the all around foolish and un-professional way they are going about this has me wondering two things: they want to see how the people react to know what they will be able to get away with in the future, or this is all a show for the people and this country and a path has already been chosen to cause harm to citizens and take the country in an undesirable direction. This my opinion anyway. They cannot surely be so inept and unable to carry out the duties of their positions which by the way they are rewarded handsomely for. If these things happen I guess we will have to look at which bills we can pay like food over taxes or electric over taxes or 4 dollar a gallon gas to get to work over taxes. I will have to engage in a debate about it with myself and family.
    • Phyllis  •  10 mths ago
      Ok was SS borrowed or stolen?? I have always thought if you borrow first it has to be approved then you sighn a paper that you will pay back X-Amount of $ plus interest to be paid back in a set period of time if not then more interest is added plus late charges does most agree with this?? The gov leaders must not have gone to the sane school I did but it sure looks to me like OUR money was STOLEN
    • Guess Who  •  10 mths ago
      Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples?

      Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!!
      Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really need the money....

      Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt ceiling crisis !!!!!
    • Michelle P  •  10 mths ago
      "The U.S. government owes itself $4.6 trillion, mostly borrowed from Social Security revenues."

      In any other type of business wouldn't that would be called embezzling?
    • J.Galt  •  10 mths ago
      I can tell you exactly why Social Security has problems-besides too many #$%$ boomers. I have been in the financial services industry for 8 years now and have seen as much as I can stomach. I have worked mostly in mortgages, but also in investments and insurance. I live in TN and would say at least a 3rd of our population is on some sort of Social Security disability or other government payment. I don't mind at all, somebody that is truly disabled from doing any work, drawing a check. Sadly though, many of recipients are perfectly capable of doing some sort of work. It makes me sad when I see people who have true disabilities that get up and go to a job everyday while we have these parasites that collect a check year after year across several generations. I even had a friend, whos inlaws, were teaching a relative how to act crazy so that they could submit a SS claim. I think we need to dig in, stiffen the definition of disability, stiffen the doctors requirements to claim disability, and I would bet 1/2 the dole dwellers would be gone. If that can't work, then make these folks that draw a check do some sort of work for the government. I don't care if its digging public ditches or taking calls in a call center- it would be work the government wouldn't have to pay an overpaid gov worker. I think immediately they should quadruple the number of ss claims investigators and have at it. I would do the job and even take a paycut because I would believe in the work.
    • Lucy B  •  10 mths ago
      The Republican Administrations = 3.2 trillion of the 9 trillion increase; the Democratic Administration = 1.6 trillion. Hmmm...and the Republicans position themselves as the party of fiscal responsibility......exactly how?
    • Jimmie  •  10 mths ago
      Surely this must all be Bush's fault.
    • Paul e  •  10 mths ago
      IF THIS MESS IS EVER SOLVED THERE SHOULD BE A INVESTIGATION INTO WAY THIS WAS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN!
    • noneoftheabove  •  9 mths ago
      Hey, sounds like bush's debt to me. lying republicans.
    • Douglas Lloyd  •  10 mths ago
      "Great Recession"? "Borrowing from the Social Security Trust Fund" as the US Govt takes on more debt?

      It is the 2nd Great Depression and a game of word trickery won't change the reality of it. Borrowing from Social Security's alleged "trust fund" should not have been happening in the first place. So Mr. President and Congress. Pay Back what you borrowed in your Massive Game of Shell Play.
    • stirandsavor  •  9 mths ago
      Social Security Trust Fund needs to prohibit the Federal Government from ever touching it; do those trustees believe the US Government owns that money? They only own money when they print it, not money that has been withdrawn from your pay check for years. The Social Security Piggy Bank is everyone's who contributed into it which was by force, illegal aliens who haven't contributed are basically being given money from this fund illegally since they are illegal aliens. Wonder what the prinicipal on the Social Security Trust Fund would have been if Congress hadn't touched it and then add on the total interest on the principal.
    • kenneth  •  10 mths ago
      so the gov owes ss money and they wont even increase the amount to cover cost of living which they say didnt go up funny im paying more for everything what about you, and im on ss and they want to play games id say come election day its time to vote them all out
    • jtheat  •  10 mths ago
      You stole my money and my peace of mind for my retirement. I am so sick of both the Democrats and Republicans. They both forgot their purpose. It is time we forget ALL of you this coming November. I mean ALL of you.
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