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    Libya rebels reject regime offer to talk

    TRIPOLI, Libya (AP) โ€” Libyan rebels on Sunday rejected an offer by Moammar Gadhafi to negotiate and said they have captured the eastern town of Bin Jawwad, forcing regime loyalists to flee after days of fighting.

    With his regime crumbling, Gadhafi is on the run, but his chief spokesman Moussa Ibrahim told The Associated Press the Libyan leader is still in Libya. As the call for negotiations came, new signs emerged of arbitrary killings of detainees and civilians by Gadhafi forces during the rebels' push into Tripoli earlier this week, including some 50 charred corpses at a regime lockup.

    The rebels dismissed Gadhafi's proposal, relayed by Ibrahim by phone, to have his son al-Saadi lead talks on a transitional government as delusional.

    "I would like to state very clearly, we don't recognize them. We are looking at them as criminals. We are going to arrest them very soon," Mahmoud Shammam, the information minister in the rebels' transitional government, told a news conference. "Talking about negotiations is a daydream for what remains of the dictatorship."

    In London Sunday, British Foreign Secretary William Hague also dismissed the offer, saying the National Transitional Council was already in charge of the country and that Gadhafi should call on his supporters to stop fighting.

    "I referred a few days ago to Col. Gadhafi making delusional statements and this is another one of them," Hague told the BBC.

    The rebels control most of Libya, including Tripoli, but are struggling to alleviate shortages of water, fuel and electricity in the capital. Usama el-Abed, the deputy leader of the new city council, said between 60 and 70 percent of the residents don't have enough water, but that the shortages are due to technical problems, not sabotage by regime forces.

    The U.N. is preparing to ship in baby food, bottled water and medicine. World Health Organization officials are on Malta, some 350 kilometers (225 miles) north of Tripoli, to prepare the aid shipments, which are expected to leave for Libya in the next few days.

    In one small attempt at returning to normal, a traffic policeman in a white uniform was on duty Sunday in an eastern neighborhood of Tripoli. "Today is the first day that we started working. Things are under control and running smoothly," said traffic cop Abu Bakr al-Murbet.

    Some 1,000 Egyptians, Jordanians and Filipinos boarded a passenger ferry in Tripoli's port Sunday to escape instability and shortages. Most people said they plan to return to their jobs in Libya once the situation calmed down.

    Before the outbreak of fighting, large numbers of foreign workers โ€” some estimates go as high as 2.5 million โ€” were employed in oil-rich Libya, though hundreds of thousands already fled.

    In Sunday's fighting, rebels threatened to advance on the coastal road toward Gadhafi's hometown of Sirte if tribal leaders there don't agree to surrender.

    Mohammed al-Rajali, a spokesman, said rebel forces captured Bin Jawwad, about 350 miles (560 kilometers) east of Tripoli, late Saturday and deployed forces in the city after days of fighting. He said Gadhafi's forces fled westward, likely to join regime forces in Sirte, the headquarters of Gadhafi's tribe and his last major bastion of support.

    Sirte has been heavily targeted by NATO airsrikes.

    On Sunday, an AP reporter found some 50 charred corpses in a makeshift lockup near a military base that had been run by the Khamis Brigade, an elite unit commanded by Gadhafi's son, Khamis.

    Mabrouk Abdullah, who said he survived a massacre at the site by Gadhafi's forces, told The Associated Press that on Tuesday guards opened fired at some 130 civilian detainees in the lockup, a hangar, and fired again when prisoners tried to flee.

    Abdullah said he had been crouching along a wall and was shot in his side, lifting his shirt to show his injury.

    New York-based Human Rights Watch said Sunday it has gathered evidence indicating that Gadhafi loyalists killed at least 17 detainees and arbitrarily executed dozens of civilians as rebels moved into Tripoli.

    AP reporters have also witnessed abuse of wounded Gadhafi fighters by rebels and their supporters. Earlier this week, eight injured men were abandoned in a bombed out fire house in the Abu Salim neighborhood, some pleading for water, but residents and rebels made no effort to help them.

    However, in many other instances, Gadhafi fighters were treated side by side with rebels in rebel-controlled hospitals.

    ___

    Associated Press writers Paul Schemm and Hadeel al-Shalchi in Tripoli and Rami al-Shaheibi in Benghazi contributed to this report.

     

    799 comments

    • FOX MULDER  •  9 mths ago
      Sure....now he wants to talk.
    • Graham Barden  •  9 mths ago
      Libya would look nice with a mushroom cloud above it
    • Graham Barden  •  9 mths ago
      one bunch of nutters get deposed...then another bunch of nutters come along and take over.!
    • Milton  •  9 mths ago
      They want to replace the Daffy with an Ayattola Shish Kebob.
    • Left Jab  •  9 mths ago
      I commend you on your new found Libyan identity. May you find peace and one nation together for the common good. May your flag fly proudly. - Anonymous American.
    • Frank  •  9 mths ago
      find the PIG, &execute him, why waste the money on a trial............
    • ugo dee  •  9 mths ago
      look at americans looking for a country that has oil to distroy and be incharge
    • ugo dee  •  9 mths ago
      shame on us africans because the whites also used our resources in developing there countries. the rebels are foolish people that dnot know what is right and wrong, the Nato will still find a way to kill all the rebels as soon as the get what the want which is that oil laying down there. look at france, it is a poor country living with african reasoures. we africans will have to be united and see how the whites will be beging for food.
    • Eric Jones  •  9 mths ago
      Someone should really tell NATO that you don't bomb "Captured" cities.
    • newheadlines  •  9 mths ago
      boy this guy is a nut if he thinks he still in charge
    • Mark  •  9 mths ago
      Look it up yourself!!! US media does not want you to know but it is all over the midEast and
      European media!

      NEW military leader for Libyan rebels....
      Al Qaeda Commander of the Bloody Reign of Terror in Tripoli is the Monster Abdel Hakim Belhadj, aka Abdel Hakim al-Hasadi, Friend of Osama Bin Laden, former US POW, and Infamous Killer of US Soldiers in Afghanistan
    • Mark  •  9 mths ago
      The new military dictator of Tripoli is none other than the infamous Abdul Hakim Belhadj, an international terrorist, a famous, notorious โ€œgenocidalistโ€ of al-Qaeda who has carried out international terrorism all across the globe,โ€ Tarpley said. Under the recognition of Libyaโ€™s new emerging government, Belhadj will receive โ€œbillions of dollars from the United States including the most modern weapons, diplomatic support, recognition, media support, moral support, Special Forces support, and so on.โ€
    • Vishwa Dharma  •  9 mths ago
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    • Ras  •  9 mths ago
      The present freedom loving terrorist goverment will not talk to the former terrorist goverment. That's because they know they will butcher or be butchered by the other if one or the other gets the upper hand at the negotiating table.What I mean by upper hand is who shows up at the negotiating table with more weapons and suicidal killers.
    • 1eyeopen  •  9 mths ago
      Now we know foe sure that Gaddafi is just plain stupid...like he is still in power...right dude, riiiight.
    • Yahoo  •  9 mths ago
      Under Ghadaffi Libya became a GIANT OIL SELLING CORPORATION devoid of civil rights and democracy. Libya's citizens became nothing more than Ghadaffi oil company employees with Ghadaffi as the dictatorial CEO.....dictating his insane policies to the Ghadaffi oil company citizen-surfs below him, who had no vote and little power. This is a prime example of corporatism run amok. Now we can see quite clearly what happens when you run a nation like a private corporation....it soon becomes like a private prison, with the inmates pushed to rioting and warfare to achieve justice/humanity. U.S. citizens should pay close attention to this...we have a few Ghadaffi wannbies here, who are hoping to turn the U.S. government into a private/corporate fiefdom.
    • Colleen Fontenot  •  9 mths ago
      Why negotiate with that murderer? The only thing he should negotiate with is a bullet right between his eyes.
      • Nguyen 9 mths ago
        Be compassionate. Let him negotiate between lethal injection or hanging.
      • Marie G. 9 mths ago
        Ahmadinejad, who had his elite military arrest and kill unarmed protesters in the street, plus hates America and Jews and wants them wiped off the face of the earth is not told by Obama that he has to step down. He has visited America and our colleges that we pay unheard of tuitions for, and was allowed to speak to our students.
      • Azwi 9 mths ago
        Who was supporting Gadaffi`s grip to power for all these years???? may be the French can lecture me on this one.I see reason for the rebels to negotiate with Gadafi ,as lunatic as this guy can be,he has brainwashed masses and they blindly follow him.Therefore you cannot wish his existance away rather appreciate the fact that exclusion approach will increase internal instability for who ever takes power, May be South A frica can be an Example of how many lives can be saved by negotiating. as for me Lybia will find its demacracy any how but we cannt choose to continue killing each other.It is easy to take arms but it is difficult to put them down.L ybians are smarter Gaddaffi and Western powers.
    • STING RAY  •  9 mths ago
      Well done Sarkozy. You have proven that you are a great statesman and thank you for saving thousands of lives in Benghazi.
    • ugo dee  •  9 mths ago
      i want to let all africans to know that the whites are thieves, they only came to help when the see that there is oil or anything that they can gain in your country. we africans have to be wise and reasonable. they white is only targeting that oil that lie down in libya, we dnot africans are not united because if we are we cant allow the whites to intrude in our matters. Africans why can we get up and be united? they whites have used us in the past as slaves and now they are still using us. Muammar Gaddafi is a good president which know the value of his citizens. the libyan citizen is been paid and which of the west africa does that? Gaddafi protects libyan economy and the whites has been looking for a way to distroy, so now the have found the way. libyans wake up, to avoid had i know. save what God have given to you people before it is too late.
      • SomeGUy 9 mths ago
        Did you not read this article? His forces murdered 130+ CIVILIANS that were being detained.
      • Spice 9 mths ago
        ugo dee is the real racist
      • Fat Boy 9 mths ago
        God, what a doork! If Afreeka was so great, why is it such a hell hole. They were the first world power, but they blew it themselves by being greedy and selling their own people into slavery. And they are so fricking lazy that they let flies crawl in and out of their noses and mouth. They can't even feed themselves even when they are provided the tools and seeds to grow food. After thousands of years, they still haven't figured out that screwing all the time just makes more mouths to feed, but hey, what the hell, what's one more dead kid. In nine month, they'll pop out another. But they can blame Whitey; that's easier than working in the field to feed the kids!
    • mike  •  9 mths ago
      He's in Pakistan staying at Bin Laden's old pad.Of course they would not know this,right?
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