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    McQueary Says He Saw 'Some Type of Intercourse' Between Sandusky, Boy

    Penn State assistant football coach Mike McQueary said today that he did not actually witness former coach Jerry Sandusky penetrating a young boy in the shower, but saw activity he believed was sexual and told as much to head coach Joe Paterno.

    "I never used the word sodomy or anal sex out of respect for Joe Paterno," McQueary said on the witness stand in a hearing today, relating what he reported to the head coach. "I would not have done it [said it that way]."

    McQueary was the first of five witnesses that will testify today in a hearing before District Judge William C. Wenner to determine what Penn State officials knew about Sandusky's alleged child sexual abuse on the Penn State campus.

    In today's hearing, McQueary said he did not actually see rape in the 2002 shower incident, but something he believed was sexual in nature.

    "I thought that Jerry was molesting him, having intercourse with him. I didn't see insertion or hear protest," McQueary said. "Jerry having some type of intercourse with him, that's what I believe I saw."

    "The boy was up against the wall, his hands up, Jerry behind him in a close position, with his hands wrapped around the boy. I thought to myself this is a sexual position," he testified.

    McQueary's testimony of the incident is a vital part of the cases against Sandusky, who is accused of 50 counts of molesting children, and two top university officials that are accused of lying to a grand jury about what they knew of the alleged incident.

    The hearing today will determine whether former athletic director Tim Curly and former vice president of finance Gary Shultz were told about an alleged sexual assault on campus and did not report it to police. In the grand jury presentment charging them with perjury, McQueary testified that he told Paterno that he witnessed a rape of a young boy.

    Paterno, however, testified that he was only told that something of a "inappropriate nature" had occurred in the shower, and Curly and Shultz testified that they were only told the behavior was horsing around.

    In the weeks since the grand jury presentment was released, McQueary has come under fire for changing the story of what he saw. A doctor who says he was at the McQueary household when McQueary told his father what he saw claims that McQueary denied there was any sexual activity in the shower incident, contradicting the grand jury report. McQueary also contradicted the report, telling friends through emails that he actively stopped the rape and then told police what he saw.

    In his testimony today, McQueary recounted the incident once more.

    "Jerry was having some type of intercourse with him, that's what I believe I saw," he said. "I stepped back and didn't want to see it anymore. I slammed the locker shut, and when I looked in, they had separated. I know they saw me, they both looked directly into my eyes, and neither said anything to me."

    "Seeing that they both saw me, I left the locker room. I can't describe what I was thinking or feeling: shocked, horrified, distraught."

    Four other witnesses are set to testify at the hearing, though their identities have not been released. Former head coach Joe Paterno's testimony will be read aloud. He will not testify in court.

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    1,367 comments

    • Troy  •  Lafayette, United States  •  5 mths ago
      a man taking a shower with young {boys} this is very wrong should of STOPED! there come on people look what happend wrong from the start.
      • Porgie Tirebiter 5 mths ago
        'STOPED?'
      • CharlesD 5 mths ago
        stop jumping down people's throats
      • A Yahoo! User 5 mths ago
        learn how spell and people will take what you say more to heart
    • bearfan  •  5 mths ago
      Some kind of intercourse? Sodomy is the word my man, and you are a pig for not stopping him. No man card for you!
    • D  •  5 mths ago
      It is hard to understand how a man can see/witness/become directly aware of such a thing and turn around and walk away. How do you do that?

      I must be weak....I could not just turn around and walk-away Even if it was to head straight out to report it. I couldn't leave that poor kid there without trying to stop the pervert...whatever it took.

      I guess this McQueary is a stronger man than I. I would have had to hurt Sandusky right then and there.
      • Harold 5 mths ago
        that is why I question what he actually saw and what he thought he saw. It may actually no be what he says..........
    • GypsyMom  •  Naples, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Please stop putting this pervert's photo on every story before I totally lose it and smash my computer screen with a hammer!!!!! I wouldn't want my sons anywhere near State Penn, then, now, or in their lifetime.
    • Harold  •  5 mths ago
      This whole thing sounds fishy. If the kid was being raped he would have said something and McQueary could have stopped it. There have been lots of times I walked in on something and it was not what I thought it was at first thought. If a rape is going on you stopped it period and called the Police. 40 years ago we horsed around in the shower to and I guess if someone walked in on us at the wrong time they could have had ill thoughts on their mind to. McQueary ethier you did or you did not see it and do not make make things up in your perverted mind!!!!!!
    • Don J  •  5 mths ago
      There is something bad wrong with these people, starting woth old man Paterno. There is no place in the civilized world for these folks. The excuse "I didn't actually see" is the lamest thing I ever heard. It ranks right up there with the German peoples "I didn't know" in WWII.
    • Aldoro  •  5 mths ago
      sports in THE USA....children can be molested as long as the TEAM is winning and the owners are getting rich. the players can be criminals, cheat with steriods, as long as they win. we pay sportsmen $40 million each. Our whole Nation is crumbling from within from rot as our Union Govt class cart off BILLIONS OF DOLLARS PER DAY TO 150 Foreign Nations bank accounts. Our Govt Union class fleece every dime from the taxpayer who sits oblivious, fat, dumb and happy on his sofa ....
      • TR RINO 5 mths ago
        Someone will claim that their fairy tale will save the nation. Take your pick there plenty of them out there.
      • Thanks_173rd_Airborne_Bri ... 5 mths ago
        This is not about sports,unions, or the federal government. It's about a wild animal who raped little boys.
    • JOELINDA  •  New York, United States  •  5 mths ago
      French Justice , thanks for the prelude! A murderer, It goes behind bars! What is this two-tiered justice? An apple thief is behind bars!
    • kathy  •  Louisville, United States  •  5 mths ago
      This actually makes me sick to my stomach in my humble opinion they are all guilty ..should have called the police in right then and there for inappropriate touching /closeness and had it investigated..may god have mercy on them all!!1
      • question 5 mths ago
        YOUR WRONG! No mercy for any of them!
    • JOELINDA  •  New York, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Lorsque les lois de Dieu et ses principes disparaissent, la perversion, les catastrophes et la crise économique ont lieu!
      Ramenez votre famille à Dieu! Tôt ou tard tout va s'écrouler! Sachez-en plus!!
      • bd 5 mths ago
        Desole, mais tu ne sais pas de quoi tu parles. Je n'ai pas besoin d'avoir peur en Dieu pour ne pas violer des enfants.
      • Dan 5 mths ago
        Since when is this France?
      • Roby 5 mths ago
        When the laws of God and his principles disappear, the perversion, disasters and the economic crisis take place!
        Bring your family to God! Sooner or later everything will collapse! Learn more!
    • James  •  Indianapolis, United States  •  5 mths ago
      I always thought that Joe Paterno was a good Father figure for these young kids--- Train hard--Play hard and be a winner. He should have done more to protect these young men once he knew what was happening. To bad he has to live with this hanging over his head. He brought it on himself. I lost all respect for him
    • bcslsman  •  Chardon, United States  •  5 mths ago
      To anyone that defends this lying weasel for not going directly to police after seeing a man having sex with a boy, there is something horribly wrong with you. period.
    • Michael  •  San Jose, United States  •  5 mths ago
      How the hell could this sick SOB have gotten away with molesting so many young people? what EFFFF is wrong with this country, someone take that sick basturd out to the back of the barn and................And anyone who saw something like this and didn't personally beat the living #$%$ out of this guy also needs to be hung!!!!!
    • flygril  •  Jacksonville, United States  •  5 mths ago
      So much crap goes on in the business world of jobs, many people know even at their jobs what is going on, whether it be sexual, job discremination, lies being told on a person, retailation because you spoke, just all sorts of things. Let me tell you why most of this stuff isn't reported. Because the truth is most people have no backbone, they choose to look the other way. Plus they shake in their boots because of fear of losing their job. It makes me sick. #$%$ a job i refuse to let any of these suckers roll over on me.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  Washington, United States  •  5 mths ago
      McQueary is a large, healthy, physically fit young man. Why didn't he grab Sandusky (old man) and beat the hell out of him then tell authorities??? He and all the enablers MUST be punished to the full extent of the law just as the catholic enablers should. Enablers are just as guilty as the unclean pedophile. Execute all pedophiles and cage all enablers. Let's get tough on these sick, unclean freakers. Why isn't this a priority in our so called society???????
    • Gary James Minter  •  Washington, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Does his wife Dottie still think he had no interest in young boys? "He wouldn't even harm a fly..."
      So many people are in denial these days, I guess it's understandable for a wife to wish all this would just go away..."It's sad, when a mother must speak the words that condemn her own son...."
    • Laura  •  Wheaton, United States  •  5 mths ago
      sandusky just makes me sick, leave the children alone
    • Aldoro  •  5 mths ago
      as long as sports produces winners and billions of dollars for their owners...society turns their head to the steroid cheaters, the druggies, the rapists, the crimes against children
    • LtDanhasnolegs  •  5 mths ago
      He probably joined them in the shower..He looks like the type
    • bigbadude  •  5 mths ago
      The Most Important Commandment


      25 One day an expert in religious law stood up to test Jesus by asking him this question: “Teacher, what should I do to inherit eternal life?”

      26 Jesus replied, “What does the law of Moses say? How do you read it?”
      27 The man answered, “‘You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, all your strength, and all your mind.’ And, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’”[c]

      28 “Right!” Jesus told him. “Do this and you will live!”
      29 The man wanted to justify his actions, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”

      Parable of the Good Samaritan


      30 Jesus replied with a story: “A Jewish man was traveling on a trip from Jerusalem to Jericho, and he was attacked by bandits. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him up, and left him half dead beside the road.
      31 “By chance a priest came along. But when he saw the man lying there, he crossed to the other side of the road and passed him by. 32 A Temple assistant[d] walked over and looked at him lying there, but he also passed by on the other side.
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      36 “Now which of these three would you say was a neighbor to the man who was attacked by bandits?” Jesus asked.

      37 The man replied, “The one who showed him mercy.”

      Then Jesus said, “Yes, now go and do the same.”
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