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    Messy caucuses in Nevada, Iowa raise questions

    LAS VEGAS (AP) โ€” After back-to-back fiascos in Nevada and Iowa, the term "caucus" may be on its way to becoming a bad word in the GOP lexicon.

    Those troubled contests cast a shadow over the volunteer-run presidential selection process as the GOP's caucus season begins Tuesday night in Colorado and Minnesota. In all, 10 states are scheduled to hold caucuses in February and March.

    For now, national Republicans have shied away from calling for the end of caucuses in favor of straight-vote primaries. Critics say it is only a matter of time before the caucus troubles become too great to ignore.

    "The average voter does not want to go to an event that is going to take one, two or three hours," said Republican state Assemblyman Pat Hickey of Reno. "In that regard, I think it doesn't work well, especially in states like Nevada."

    Nevada Republicans finally released the results of their Saturday caucuses early Monday morning, after volunteers had stayed up for nearly 48 hours counting and recounting votes in a contest that saw only 33,000 votes cast, about 9 percent of the state's registered Republicans. Party leaders said they wanted to take their time to avoid another Iowa.

    Last month, Iowa initially called its first-in-the-nation presidential race for Mitt Romney by eight votes, only to have allegations of impropriety surface. Two weeks later Iowa Republicans announced that โ€” oops โ€” Rick Santorum had actually won by 34 votes. The head of the Iowa GOP said he would resign.

    Republican Party leaders in other states said they were confident that they could avoid the problems that defined the Nevada and Iowa contests, but they also acknowledged that a caucus system requires much more work than a primary, which is overseen by the government.

    In Colorado, Republicans have been holding weekly training sessions to explain the complicated voting process to volunteers. In Minnesota, Republicans say they will release the results from each precinct as they are counted.

    "We've done a lot of training for our caucus conveners," said Heather Rubash, spokeswoman for the Minnesota GOP, which held presidential caucuses in 2004 and 2008. "It hasn't been a problem in the past."

    Caucuses are generally party-run nomination contests that require voters to show up at a certain time and listen as their neighbors discuss the candidates. Only once that's done do voters get to cast their ballots.

    In most cases, there are no voter machines to tally up the results, no professional staff to ensure every vote is counted equally and no dashing into the local polling place to vote between errands.

    All of that adds up to an error-prone system that can leave voters confused and disinterested in voting and, in some cases, on the alert for potential fraud.

    "It's a lot of folks to train and a lot of information," said Chuck Poplstein, executive director of the Colorado GOP. "It's not an easy situation if you are just walking into it."

    In Nevada, hints of caucus trouble were evident long before voters showed up Saturday. Party leaders changed the date twice and allowed the county parties to set their own rules, which meant there was no uniform voting method or start time across the state.

    On Election Day, there were many voting locations where even the people in charge had never attended a caucus before. Some voters were turned away after showing up late thinking they could cast a ballot anytime throughout the day, as they might in a primary.

    The real trouble began as party leaders started to release results late Saturday night. GOP leaders in Clark County, where more than half of all Republicans live and the home of Las Vegas, said they planned to stay up all night counting the ballots. The results were finally released just before 2 a.m. local time Monday.

    "I might be the only person left in the Nevada Republican Party that still likes caucuses," acting GOP Chairman James Smack said during the vote count.

    Romney won the contest, as he did in 2008. Newt Gingrich finished a distant second, followed closely by Ron Paul. Santorum came in last.

    It was the second time Nevada's GOP caucuses crashed and burned. In 2008, only 44,000 voters showed up and state leaders vowed to do better. Instead, turnout dropped by more than 10,000 voters Saturday. There are 471,000 registered Republicans in Nevada.

    Critics said the arcane caucus format might be to blame for the low turnout.

    "The conversations I've heard for over a year is: 'Why are we still doing this caucus? Nobody likes it,'" said Cheryl Van Ocker, a GOP activist in rural northern Nevada. "They would like to have a primary."

    So why would any state choose to hold a caucus instead of a traditional primary?

    For one thing, caucuses generally don't cost taxpayers a cent, a big plus among tea party Republicans concerned about excessive government spending. While public dollars are used to cover the cost of primaries, caucuses are paid for by each local and state political party.

    Proponents claim caucuses also create a sense of community, allowing neighbors to civilly debate politics and elect precinct captains who can go on to make important decisions within the state party.

    "It connects and energizes people in a way that going into the voting booth doesn't," said Jill Derby, a former Nevada Democratic chairwoman who hosted the state's successful Democratic caucuses in 2008.

    Still, Derby cautioned: "It takes tremendous organization. You have to do the work to train people."

    On Saturday, Barbara Vallard, 75, signed into a caucus location in Las Vegas and then stood around, unsure of where she was supposed to go and how she could vote. Told she would have to wait until everyone had signed in before she could cast a ballot, she fretted that she was going to be late for an appointment.

    But Vallard, a Romney supporter, said she wouldn't have it any other way.

    "It's good to hear other people's beliefs," she said.

     

    31 comments

    • SacramentoGoldMinerFan  •  McClellan, California  •  3 mths ago
      Caucuses are only a measure of those highly involved people which is only a small portion. A primary is a better measure.
    • glen  •  Jacksonville, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      Yep, our next president will all be in the "counting." Who gets the questioned chads and who doesn't, or computers set up to count every tenth vote as a vote for the incumbant-we'll never know who our next president should have been.
      • Mike 3 mths ago
        It would not surprise me if there were riots in the streets before it's over.
    • None  •  3 mths ago
      We need to switch to a parliamentary system. Congressional systems were intended for a more agrarian society where individuals were more independent and *engaged*. Today they're not, and that's why only 10% decide what is happening. A parliamentary system reduces the pandering to 10%.
      • Will 3 mths ago
        We need more than two parties also....break the stalemate.
    • Mike  •  Belleville, Illinois  •  3 mths ago
      Yet more evidence (if you needed any) that voting results are being manipulated.
    • Free Fire Wire  •  3 mths ago
      It took them from Saturday until Monday to fix the vote for Mitt.Who are they trying to kid?
      • Time 3 mths ago
        It is a lot of work to make it look real.
      • Mike 3 mths ago
        Yes, it takes time to cook results!
    • oohay  •  3 mths ago
      it's mitty, the republicans are holding theirs noses but it's the corporate wall street silver spoon poster boy, it's a done deal. i would bet 10,000 on it.
      • Mike 3 mths ago
        Only if you vote for the fool! I'm voting for the only honest candidate: Ron Paul!
    • earthmom55  •  3 mths ago
      Both Democrats and Republicans can not be trusted. If people would wake up, they would see that both have passed repressive laws in the last 11 years that take away our freedoms. Who passed the Patriot Act? Who passed Healthcare with all its mandates? Who passed NAFTA? If you trade freedom for liberty, you will have neither: Our Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves.
      • Mike 3 mths ago
        Restore Common Sense to America! Vote for Ron Paul!
    • KABSTER  •  3 mths ago
      Caucuses are a big fail when people have lives.
    • mr_falbo  •  3 mths ago
      people can be republican and not think the politicians are republican at all. nevada has had the boots put to her, and it's likely from the turn out which side will be blamed.

      'envious poor' only works in front of the rich and the severely ignorant. in the gambling state, they know a thing or two about urges and failings.

      all this internecine bickering is filler- the 'envious poor' theme was short circuited by the 99% vs.1%. they have no plan b. they are on their heels, trying to stay up until the round ends.

      look in their eyes, read the lack of exultation on their faces, the slack vocal tones... they're beat.

      so they've started their proxies in their culture wars- breast cancer groups, gay groups, birth control... trying to get their base morally outraged by something more than the corruption and the job losses that are firmly settling around the reagan +( bushX2) legacy like chains around the shoulders of swimmer.

      it could all backfire, just as the word entitlements has, underlining the manipulative language and corrupt ethics of the entire right wing 'intellectual' establishment. such people are not republicans, they are hires.
    • William  •  3 mths ago
      so, romney likes precinct captains who make decisions for others -- where the others are 9% of republican voters -- pretty much the 1% that romney understands so well. heaven forbid that people should actually be able to vote
    • kc  •  3 mths ago
      Now Republicans want to switch to primaries -- which are overseen by the government. But I thought they wanted *less* government?
    • ron s  •  Fort Myers, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      and oh yes they forgot to tell us how they lost allmost all of ron pauls votes on the way to be counted!!!!!!!
    • Salty Dog  •  3 mths ago
      It just shows the GOP is a mess!
    • Tommy  •  Phoenix, Arizona  •  3 mths ago
      Nine percent of registered republicans vote and the press claims Romney wins big ? I call that an embaresment, they should not allow that low of a turnout to have a say in picking a candidate,but then the people dont really have a say in anything anymore
    • Ugly  •  Houston, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      Election fraud! Election fraud! Only voters with government issued ID get to vote! Or with concealed handgun permits! Stop dead Democrats from voting in Republican caucuses and primaries! Election fraud! Election fraud!
    • Jeff Tucker  •  3 mths ago
      Even if everyone in America were to vote for, let us say, Joe Blow. Romny, Gingrich and Santorum will still be getting all the votes
    • J  •  3 mths ago
      Too bad we couldn't vote an idiot off every week American Idol style..
    • Larry  •  3 mths ago
      if you find the 8 missing voter area in iowa mitt won???? they call it even without these?// the news called it ,,not the people???? where the missing 8???? who won????
    • William  •  Dover, New Jersey  •  3 mths ago
      All they have to learn is how to make an honest count. Which the Republicans seem to have
      problems doing. There is just nothing you can trust about the Republicans.
    • JustanotherFool  •  3 mths ago
      isnt prostitution legal in Nevada? of course the cauckases are going to be messy!
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