Discover Yahoo! With Your Friends

Explore news, videos, and much more based on what your friends are reading and watching. Publish your own activity and retain full control.

To get started, first

YOUR FRIENDS' ACTIVITY

    Mexico's newest export to US may be water

    SAN DIEGO (AP) โ€” Mexico ships televisions, cars, sugar and medical equipment to the United States. Soon, it may be sending water north.

    Western states are looking south of the border for water to fill drinking glasses, flush toilets and sprinkle lawns, as four major U.S. water districts help plan one of two huge desalination plant proposals in Playas de Rosarito, about 15 miles south of San Diego. Combined, they would produce 150 million gallons a day, enough to supply more than 300,000 homes on both sides of the border.

    The plants are one strategy by both countries to wean themselves from the drought-prone Colorado River, which flows 1,450 miles from the Rocky Mountains to the Sea of Cortez. Decades of friction over the Colorado, in fact, are said to be a hurdle to current desalination negotiations.

    The proposed plants have also sparked concerns that American water interests looking to Mexico are simply trying to dodge U.S. environmental reviews and legal challenges.

    Desalination plants can blight coastal landscapes, sucking in and killing fish eggs and larvae. They require massive amounts of electricity and dump millions of gallons of brine back into the ocean that can, if not properly disposed, also be harmful to fish.

    But desalination has helped quench demand in Australia, Saudi Arabia and other countries lacking fresh water.

    Dozens of proposals are on the drawing board in the United States to address water scarcity but the only big project to recently win regulators' blessings would produce 50 million gallons a day in Carlsbad, near San Diego. A smaller plant was approved last year in Monterey, some 110 miles south of San Francisco.

    Mexico is a relative newcomer to desalination. Its largest plant supplies 5 million gallons a day in the Baja California resort town of Cabo San Lucas, with a smattering of tiny ones on the Baja peninsula. Skeptics already question the two proposed plants in Playas de Rosarito โ€” known as Rosarito Beach to American expatriates and visiting college spring-breakers.

    "It raises all kinds of red flags," said Joe Geever, California policy coordinator for the Surfrider Foundation, an environmentalist group that has fought the Carlsbad plant for years in court, saying it will kill marine life and require too much electricity.

    Water agencies that supply much of Southern California, Phoenix, Las Vegas and Tijuana, Mexico, are pursuing the plant that would produce 50 million gallons a day in Rosarito near an existing electricity plant. They commissioned a study last year that found no fatal flaws and ordered another one that will include a cost estimate, with an eye toward starting operations in three to five years.

    Potential disagreements between the two countries include how the new water stores will be used.

    The U.S. agencies want to consider helping pay for the plant and letting Mexico keep the water for booming areas of Tijuana and Rosarito. In exchange, Mexico would surrender some of its allotment from the Colorado River, sparing the cost of laying pipes from the plant to California.

    Mexico would never give up water from the Colorado, which feeds seven western U.S. states and northwest Mexico, said Jose Gutierrez, assistant director for binational affairs at Mexico's National Water Commission. Mexico's rights are enshrined in a 1944 treaty.

    "The treaty carries great significance in our country. We have to protect it fiercely," Gutierrez said.

    Rick Van Schoik, director of Arizona State University's North American Center for Transborder Studies, said laying a pipeline across the border would be too costly.

    "It's expensive enough to desalinate. I just don't see how it calculates out," he said.

    The other big plant proposal joins Consolidated Water Co., a Cayman Islands company, with Mexican investors. Their proposal would send much of its 100 million gallons a day from Rosarito to the United States via a new pipeline, with operations beginning in 2014.

    Mexico isn't likely to approve both plants, said Gutierrez, whose government is sponsoring the 50-million-gallon-a-day plant with the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California, the San Diego County Water Authority, the Central Arizona Water Conservation District and the Southern Nevada Water Authority.

    A key question is whether Mexico will allow water first used at the neighboring electric plant to be desalinated โ€” a giant potential savings. California recently adopted rules that prohibit the state's electric plants from sucking in vast amounts of seawater to cool their machinery.

    The Carlsbad plant illustrates how difficult it can be to build a plant in California. Poseidon Resources Corp., based in Stamford, Conn., has survived about a decade of legal challenges and regulatory review.

    The company, which plans to begin major construction when it secures financing, was required to restore 66 acres of wetlands and take other measures to offset carbon emission from the electricity it consumes.

    The San Diego County Water Authority is also considering a plant at Southern California's Camp Pendleton that would produce up to 150 million gallons a day. Poseidon wants to build one in Huntington Beach, near Los Angeles, that would churn out 50 million gallons a day. Those ideas face significant challenges.

    "The planets will never be in alignment like they were in Carlsbad," said Tom Pankrantz, editor of Water Desalination Report. "They had the right project, at the right place, at the right time."

    The San Diego agency wants to get 10 percent of the region's water from desalination by 2020 as a way to lessen its dependence on the Colorado River, which is connected by aqueduct about 200 miles away. Tijuana also wants to rely less on the river, a priority that gained urgency after a 2010 earthquake knocked out its aqueduct for about three weeks.

    The U.S. and Mexico can save money by joining forces, achieving economies of scale, said Halla Razak, the San Diego agency's Colorado River program manager. At least half of the plant's water would stay in Mexico, she said.

    "Mexico is the entity that is driving the project, even more than the United States," she said.

    U.S. and Mexican officials say they expect the new plants will adhere to the same standards as California, including water quality, but that Mexico's regulators may act faster and shield sponsors from legal challenges.

    "The Mexicans will ask all the same questions that we ask here, but it's not endless lawsuits," said Mark Watton, general manager of Otay Water District, which would buy about 20 million gallons a day from Consolidated's Mexico plant for its San Diego-area customers. "You get an answer quicker."

     
     
    Top Locations Phoenix

    1,117 comments

    • Jason K  •  Phoenix, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Maybe if government and corporations weren't spending so much money on lawn maintenance, this wouldn't have been an issue in the first place.
    • Richard  •  7 mths ago
      The USA should always build, run and maintain their own water resources, getting tied to another country is just inviting future problems. We have the ability to build desalination plants and pump the brine 25 miles off shore. Spend the bucks now or figure out how to drink sand.
      • train wreck oBowMa out in ... 7 mths ago
        I VOTE TO LET CALIFORNIA DIE!
      • Blue collar American 7 mths ago
        If we do that Train who is going to grow your produce and pay for your food stamps? CA is the 8th largest economy in the world and we pay a lot of taxes to the federal government, as such we subsidize many of the states that like to make fun of it. CA pays the largest share of federal taxes almost 100 billion more then the second of the list NY, so instead of being a complete douche and saying things that equate to puking feces all over your keyboard maybe you should thank CA for all that free money we send to your state for your welfare!
      • david 7 mths ago
        ca sucks in more fed dollars than they pay in taxes. it also used to be the 7th largest until they taxed themselves to death! and the roads are paved with potholes!
    • freeman 44  •  7 mths ago
      Soon Empire may go begging for even its toilet paper. This would be destiny of a nation that allow corrupt politicians hold rein of their country.
    • Magoya  •  7 mths ago
      To think that just a few years ago, the ongoing joke in the US was "whatever you do in Mexico, don't drink the water!!!"...
      • Adrianne 7 mths ago
        Look no further than Colorado and the Listeria outbreak where the Mexicans are #$%$ and doing their number two in the cantaloupe fields. Yes the illegals who pick those melons have to re leave themselves and where do they go? Right where they are standing at the present time when nature calls. Now you want to bring that infested water into this country... I smell a big time pay off here under the table for this.
      • Jim B 7 mths ago
        you are right. that is the funny part. there is nothing is mexico the US needs.
      • Mary Alice 7 mths ago
        Magoya, What isn't funny and is unknown to most Americans is that forgeigners visiting from many parts of the worlds are warned not to drink the water in our country.
    • ROFLMAO  •  7 mths ago
      WHY AREN'T WE BUILDING THOSE HERE? I keep saying that soon water will be more valuable than oil. Why are we so ignorant?
      • 13 7 mths ago
        we're not building them because the liberal crybabies are too concerned about the fish that may be harmed in the process.
      • anydf 7 mths ago
        blame the EPA bc they hold up all these types of projects.
      • Joseph 7 mths ago
        There have been more wars over water than oil. and don't blame liberal just because you don't understand what going on. Its more the tight ass companies that do not want to make an investment in to the US.
    • Talton  •  7 mths ago
      I like the idea of the plants however, do you think it would be too much trouble, since we will be paying the bulk of the bill, to build the plants here. I mean the United States needs the jobs and it would not be just one more thing out sourced.
      • James 7 mths ago
        Can't build them here. The environmentalists would file law suit after law suit to prevent it.
      • carlos l 7 mths ago
        and who would build them here? hahahahaha not mexican I am sure
    • AB  •  7 mths ago
      WATER - the new oil - coming soon..........
      • Sabre 7 mths ago
        They'll tax us for air when they can!
      • just a dude 7 mths ago
        Water and grain to grow food.
      • Stinkbug 7 mths ago
        I'm starting to think that building cities in the desert might not be a good idea.
    • popeye1250  •  7 mths ago
      But we want out of "Nafta!"
      We need to have less dealings with Mexico, not more!
      We should be building cars here!
    • Really  •  7 mths ago
      So, why don't we de-salinate the ocean water on the West Coast, and supply it ourselves?
    • Science Reader  •  7 mths ago
      Mexico gets the plant and the jobs to avoid potential endless lawsuits in the USA. Doesn't that just say it all!
    • LD  •  7 mths ago
      Hmmm, why not build the Desalinization plants here in the US? Wouldn't that create jobs and secure our water problems. Not to mention our "National Security. Those Stupid puttses !!
    • FOT  •  7 mths ago
      our federal government is so useless that the states have to get help from Mexico?
    • Caellyn  •  7 mths ago
      Why does the U.S. not have enough water, food, or jobs? If there are shortages then that says to me that we have more people than our resources can handle and/or we are sending too many of our resources out of the country. Wouldn't it be more effective to address the root of the problems.
    • stacker  •  7 mths ago
      Why would the state of Calif and others depend on a source of water controled by another country when they can do the job themselves? Totally nuts. Maybe in the future all these green type movements should engage their brains before they shoot off their mouths. These politicians could also use a rearrangement of their thinking.
    • 1eyeopen  •  7 mths ago
      Will illegal American immigrants staff that plant?
    • The wolf from Oregon  •  7 mths ago
      Ha! build a wall to keep them out...pass some laws to target them. Oh BTW let us have some of your water! I am thinking we should manage our resources better and not have to beg, borrow, buy something that ties us to another country.
    • Ben  •  7 mths ago
      We must have more water to quench the thirst of Mexico's parasitic criminal trespassers. More Gas, more jobs, more food, more public aid, more taxes, more schools etc.. etc.....
    • Paul C  •  7 mths ago
      I love the fact that the most ardent proponents of cracking down on illegal immigration, want this. What happens when they shut off the spigot. You people have got to be out of your minds. Who would monitor the pipeline? What a novel approach. They could introduce dope that is placed in waterproof shooters. Send it north and just pluck it out of the nearest trap. They have to have cleanouts and traps.
    • wayne  •  7 mths ago
      #$%$ Obama, we can only import so much, when are we going to export something other than our jobs
    • Stonewall29  •  7 mths ago
      So now we are going to outsource our water? That makes SO much sense.
    [ [ [['Connery is an experienced stuntman', 2]], 'http://yhoo.it/KeQd0p', '[Slideshow: See photos taken on the way down]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['Connery is an experienced stuntman', 7]], ' http://yhoo.it/KpUoHO', '[Slideshow: Death-defying daredevils]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['know that we have confidence in', 3]], 'http://yhoo.it/LqYjAX ', '[Related: The Secret Service guide to Cartagena]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['We picked up this other dog and', 5]], 'http://yhoo.it/JUSxvi', '[Related: 8 common dog fears, how to calm them]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['accused of running a fake hepatitis B', 5]], 'http://bit.ly/JnoJYN', '[Related: Did WH share raid details with filmmakers?]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['accused of running a fake hepatitis B', 3]], 'http://bit.ly/KoKiqJ', '[Factbox: AQAP, al-Qaeda in Yemen]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['have my contacts on or glasses', 3]], 'http://abcn.ws/KTE5AZ', '[Related: Should the murder charge be dropped?]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['have made this nation great as Sarah Palin', 5]], 'http://yhoo.it/JD7nlD', '[Related: Bristol Palin reality show debuts June 19]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['have made this nation great as Sarah Palin', 1]], 'http://bit.ly/JRPFRO', '[Related: McCain adviser who vetted Palin weighs in on VP race]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['A JetBlue flight from New York to Las Vegas', 3]], 'http://yhoo.it/GV9zpj', '[Related: View photos of the JetBlue plane in Amarillo]', ' ', '630', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['the 28-year-old neighborhood watchman who shot and killed', 15]], 'http://news.yahoo.com/photos/white-house-stays-out-of-teen-s-killing-slideshow/', 'Click image to see more photos', 'http://l.yimg.com/cv/ip/ap/default/120411/martinzimmermen.jpg', '630', ' ', 'AP', ], [ [['Titanic', 7]], 'http://news.yahoo.com/titanic-anniversary/', ' ', 'http://l.yimg.com/a/p/us/news/editorial/b/4e/b4e5ad9f00b5dfeeec2226d53e173569.jpeg', '550', ' ', ' ', ], [ [['He was in shock and still strapped to his seat', 6]], 'http://news.yahoo.com/photos/navy-jet-crashes-in-virginia-slideshow/', 'Click image to see more photos', 'http://l.yimg.com/cv/ip/ap/default/120406/jet_ap.jpg', '630', ' ', 'AP', ], [ [['xxxxxxxxxxxx', 11]], 'http://news.yahoo.com/photos/russian-grannies-win-bid-to-sing-at-eurovision-1331223625-slideshow/', 'Click image to see more photos', 'http://l.yimg.com/a/p/us/news/editorial/1/56/156d92f2760dcd3e75bcd649a8b85fcf.jpeg', '500', ' ', 'AP', ] ]
    [ [ [['did not go as far his colleague', 8]], '29438204', '0' ], [ [[' the 28-year-old neighborhood watchman who shot and killed', 4]], '28924649', '0' ], [ [['because I know God protects me', 14], ['Brian Snow was at a nearby credit union', 5]], '28811216', '0' ], [ [['The state news agency RIA-Novosti quoted Rosaviatsiya', 6]], '28805461', '0' ], [ [['measure all but certain to fail in the face of bipartisan', 4]], '28771014', '0' ], [ [['matter what you do in this case', 5]], '28759848', '0' ], [ [['presume laws are constitutional', 7]], '28747556', '0' ], [ [['has destroyed 15 to 25 houses', 7]], '28744868', '0' ], [ [['short answer is yes', 7]], '28746030', '0' ], [ [['opportunity to tell the real story', 7]], '28731764', '0' ], [ [['entirely respectable way to put off the searing constitutional controversy', 7]], '28723797', '0' ], [ [['point of my campaign is that big ideas matter', 9]], '28712293', '0' ], [ [['As the standoff dragged into a second day', 7]], '28687424', '0' ], [ [['French police stepped up the search', 17]], '28667224', '0' ], [ [['Seeking to elevate his candidacy back to a general', 8]], '28660934', '0' ], [ [['The tragic story of Trayvon Martin', 4]], '28647343', '0' ], [ [['Karzai will get a chance soon to express', 8]], '28630306', '0' ], [ [['powerful storms stretching', 8]], '28493546', '0' ], [ [['basic norm that death is private', 6]], '28413590', '0' ], [ [['songwriter also saw a surge in sales for her debut album', 6]], '28413590', '1', 'Watch music videos from Whitney Houston ', 'on Yahoo! Music', 'http://music.yahoo.com' ], [ [['keyword', 99999999999999999999999]], 'videoID', '1', 'overwrite-pre-description', 'overwrite-link-string', 'overwrite-link-url' ] ]
    Loading...