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    Michele Bachmann's Gaffe on Gaffe: John Quincy Adams Elevated to Founding Father

    A Historian the Minnesota Congresswoman is Not

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    COMMENTARY | Sometimes you get the feeling that Michele Bachmann was only paying attention half the time in her American History classes or perhaps has a reading comprehension problem that caused her to retain only a part of the information she perused while studying (or not studying) the history of the United States. Take for instance her latest gaffe while appearing on ABC's "Good Morning America," one in which she attempted to rectify another gaffe from earlier in the year. This time she elevated sixth president John Quincy Adams to the role of Founding Father, a role his most distinguished father John Adams actually enjoyed.

    Noting her recent troubles with gaffe-manufacturing, George Stephanopoulos gave her a chance to rectify one of her history gaffes. "... For example earlier this year you said that the Founding Fathers who wrote the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence worked tirelessly to end slavery. Now with respect, Congresswoman, that's just not true. Many of them including Jefferson and Washington were actually slave holders and slavery didn't end until the Civil War."

    When Bachmann tried to circumvent the question and simply note that America was a great country because it recognized certain wrongs and changed them, saying that people "realize that the government is taking away our freedom." Stephanopoulos pressed, "But that's not what you said. You said that the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery."

    "Well if you look at one of our Founding Fathers, John Quincy Adams, that's absolutely true," Bachmann replied. "He was a very young boy when he was with his father serving essentially as his father's secretary. He tirelessly worked throughout his life to make sure that we did in fact one day eradicate slavery...."

    Stephanopoulos interjected, "He wasn't one of the Founding Fathers -- he was a president, he was a Secretary of State, he was a member of Congress, you're right he did work to end slavery decades later. But so you are standing by this comment that the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery?"

    Bachmann then tried to salvage her statement. "Well, John Quincy Adams most certainly was a part of the Revolutionary War era. He was a young boy but he was actively involved."

    Records indicate that John Quincy Adams had no military experience, was nine years old when the Declaration of Independence of signed, and was fourteen when the siege of Yorktown concluded (sixteen when the war formally ended in 1783 at the signing of the Treaty of Paris). He was twenty when the first signatures went on the U. S. Constitution. However, although his father was a key figure in the founding of the U. S., John Quincy Adams was not associated, save tangentially, with the founding events of the United States.

    As for slavery, the "peculiar institution" would not be abolished until halfway through the American Civil War in 1863, albeit only in the United States (the Confederate states not recognizing any form of decree or law offered by the U. S. at the time). Many of the Founding Fathers were staunchly pro-slavery and worked "tirelessly" to fight its abolition. Although John Quincy Adams was an avowed opponent of slavery, he would not see it abolished in his lifetime. He died in 1848.

    It would appear that Rep. Bachmann, who spoke to "Good Morning America" from New Hampshire, the site of another of her more famous historical gaffes, got her Adams family history lessons from dimly remembered plots of the Emmy-winning "John Adams" mini-series and the Steven Spielberg courtroom drama, "Amistad."

    As for the gaffe in New Hampshire, it was while addressing a Tea Party rally in March that Bachmann told the gathering of supporters that she was considering running for president. She told them: "You're the state where the shot was heard around the world at Lexington and Concord, and you put a marker in the ground and paid with the blood of your ancestors."

    The "shot heard round the world," of course, occurred in neighboring Massachusetts, which, incidentally, was where the Adams' lived.

    The John Quincy Adams founding father gaffe was just the latest in a string of misstatements and stumbling falsehoods uttered by the newly declared Republican presidential candidate. In her hometown of Waterloo, Iowa, where she would officially launch her bid for the presidency, she invoked the "spirit" of John Wayne, whom she said was from there (he was not). The Washington Times pointed out that John Wayne Gacy, the notorious serial killer of at least 33 young men and known for dressing up like a clown, had spent half a decade in Waterloo before he began killing.

    Earlier in the day, she had sparred with Bob Schieffer on "Face The Nation," refusing to answer his questions. But in dodging a question on her veracity, she said President Obama had released "all" of the nation's emergency Strategic Oil Reserve (he did not, releasing only 30 million of 626.6 million barrels). Schieffer finally redirected her to the question about Politifact (the fact-checkers) finding 22 of 23 of her statements containing a measure of falsehood (and 7 being completely untrue).

    But she can't say she wasn't warned. In an interview on "Fox News Sunday," anchor Chris Wallace, after bringing up her reputation as a person who made "questionable" comments and was considered a "flake," asked if she understood that she would have to be more careful with her statements now that she was running for president.

    She said she did.

     

    21 comments

    • Stewie  •  11 mths ago
      She has the intellect on the same level as garden tools.
      • Peter 11 mths ago
        Stewie, why insult garden tools?
    • Expat  •  11 mths ago
      I saw her interview on a recent news broadcast. I had no preconception of her before watching it. Afterwards, I was very unimpressed. Every question was deflected. All she said was Blah, Blah, change Blah, Blah new beginnings Blah, Blah Dept bad Blah, Blah jobs good. We heard the same crap from Obama and the people bought it. This time, we want answers, not B.S. !
    • HernandoGuy  •  11 mths ago
      You Tea Party wing-nuts have it all wrong. There is not one bit of maligning the woman's political ideas. This is just pointing out that this woman is an intellectual lightweight and that when someone points out her mistakes she rarely takes ownership of her errors. To tell the truth the media (and yes they are left-wing liberals) would love for Rep. Bachman to be the GOP presidential nominee. She makes an easy target.

      If a candidate can not get basic American history right how can we expect them to handle complex issues?
    • Joseph  •  11 mths ago
      Why in a country filled with such bright people do the dumbest people get into these kinds of power positions...i mean..geez...Its so frustrating....say what you want about Obama but at least he is bright....we need bright people...we dont have slavery and thats a good thing? obviously!!!!! how depressing.
    • SRV  •  11 mths ago
      WHAT A CLUELESS MORON. SHE HAS ZERO CHANCE OF WINNING. ZERO!
    • Pete  •  11 mths ago
      As president, Founding Father Thomas Jefferson introduced a bill to end slavery - it failed by one vote.
      • Patrick 11 mths ago
        He did not propose a bill to end slavery but rather to end the importation of new slaves in to the United States. This was in 1806, two years before the US Constitution stated that practice, and would be passed by Congress and signed into law in 1808. This law did not in anyway end slavery as the practice was still allowed under the US Consitution until the 13th Amendment was passed following the Civil War. I have found no other evidence to suggest he took any other act against slavery while he was President.
    • Richard  •  11 mths ago
      Actually Quincy Adams was Ambassador to Russia long before his presidency. Using this logic, and growing up in the home of John and Abigail Adams, during the formative years of both the Revolution and the Constitional debates, etc.....he could be considered a founding father. However, those on the extreme left have filled the papers and posts nationwide to discredit Bachmann. The Obama propagandists are back in full force. I never paid any attention to Bachmann, but if the Left hates her this much, she might be a good choice for president.
    • PeterS  •  11 mths ago
      I too get John Quincy Adams mixed up with his father John Adams 2nd president of the United States.
      • Gary 11 mths ago
        Go back to school.
    • Mike  •  11 mths ago
      Give her a second brain and watch it die of loneliness....sad
    • Patrick  •  11 mths ago
      Wow Yahoo, you erased my comment? it was a clean and no bad words in it at all. Geez I am getting sick and tired of my comments being deleted by you guys. I will write it again.

      I am from Minnesota and I did not vote for Michelle, because she is an idiot and the person that was running against her was a crook, so I voted for the independent runner. But Michelle has no brains what so ever and I am still trying to figure out who is smarter, Michelle or Palin? I can tell you this Michelle is at least looks hotter than Palin, but again neither have no brains, don't ya know?? Whats scary is that more than likely it will be Michelle running for President and Palin as VP and that will end the world as we know it and not for the good either. Well it might be good for mother nature, because she can always rebuild herself in 500 plus years or however many it might take to cleanse the nuclear waste. But for mother nature that would be a drop in the bucket time wise, because mother nature has been around for billions of years and has seen a lot worse then humans and rebuilt herself. Ah the end of the world must be here, the time of the reckoning, there can only be one and that is you highlander,
    • Pk  •  11 mths ago
      Yea yea we all Know there arent 57 states either .. We have bigger issue than a history exam
    • Biltmore  •  11 mths ago
      Any of you repukes who vote for this idiot of a woman need to have your voting cards taken away. Why is it that facts only matter when the repukes want the demos to come clean? Why is it that a person running for the highest office can't just admit their gaffe and move on, we all would if you did. Instead they beat back the lie with more lies and then deflect to I don't know a demo to show how the other guy lies. Get over yourselves already you know she only said those things because they sound patriotic and for no other reason. Even though she also gets to make up history by saying Adams may have been a young boy but he was involved in the effort.
    • Robert  •  11 mths ago
      It is nice to see that the news media is hitting all of the important issues facing this country!
    • A Yahoo! User  •  11 mths ago
      Founding FAMILIES. Of which there are many, not just a few. Who ever decided that a few men were the only ones, certainly not they,.
    • Robbie  •  11 mths ago
      I heard an historian from Boston after the whole Sarah Palin and the Paul Revere statement say something that I am going to keep as my litmus test: "I have been giving seminars on Paul Revere for years and no one comes and then a politician says an off-cuff remark and then people want to listen. People sholuld expect politicians to stick to politics and let history to historians." I see the writer of this article, Saul Relative, has a degree in history, which would make it more obvious why he knows the difference between the Adams'. I studied 8 years to become a Lutheran Pastor and I bet that even President Obama would fail what I would consider basic Christianity questions.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  11 mths ago
      Heaven help us! Palin has been cloned...
    • David  •  11 mths ago
      John Quincy Adams was born July 11, 1767. That makes him eight, not nine, when the Declaration of Independence was signed.
    • Bayugabug  •  11 mths ago
      Can we hear some REAL news for a change. Yahoo News, Your bias and ignorance are showing. I will draw my own conclusions about the Presential candidates thank you very much.
    • the witch  •  11 mths ago
      the repubs what to rewrite everything sooo why not our HISTORY
    • Steven  •  11 mths ago
      Saul Relative - Yahoo contributor leftist
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