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    Miss. defeats life at conception ballot initiative

    JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — Mississippi voters Tuesday defeated a ballot initiative that would've declared life begins at conception, a proposal that supporters sought in the Bible Belt state as a way to prompt a legal challenge to abortion rights nationwide.

    The so-called "personhood" initiative was rejected by more than 55 percent of voters, falling far short of the threshold needed for it to be enacted. If it had passed, it was virtually assured of drawing legal challenges because it conflicts with the Supreme Court's 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that established a legal right to abortion. Supporters of the initiative wanted to provoke a lawsuit to challenge the landmark ruling.

    The measure divided the medical and religious communities and caused some of the most ardent abortion opponents, including Republican Gov. Haley Barbour, to waver with their support.

    Opponents said the measure would have made birth control, such as the morning-after pill or the intrauterine device, illegal. More specifically, the ballot measure called for abortion to be prohibited "from the moment of fertilization" — wording that opponents suggested would have deterred physicians from performing in vitro fertilization because they would fear criminal charges if an embryo doesn't survive.

    Supporters were trying to impose their religious beliefs on others by forcing women to carry unwanted pregnancies, including those caused by rape or incest, opponents said.

    Amy Brunson voted against the measure, in part because she has been raped. She also has friends and family that had children through in vitro fertilization and she was worried this would end that process.

    "The lines are so unclear on what may or may not happen. I think there are circumstances beyond everybody's control that can't be regulated through an amendment," said Brunson, a 36-year-old dog trainer and theater production assistant from Jackson.

    Hubert Hoover, a cabinet maker and construction worker, voted for the amendment.

    "I figure you can't be half for something, so if you're against abortion you should be for this. You've either got to be wholly for something or wholly against it," said Hoover, 71, who lives in a Jackson suburb.

    Mississippi already has tough abortion regulations and only one clinic where the procedures are performed, making it a fitting venue for a national movement to get abortion bans into state constitutions.

    Keith Mason, co-founder of the group Personhood USA, which pushed the Mississippi ballot measure, has said a win would send shockwaves around the country. The Colorado-based group is trying to put similar initiatives on 2012 ballots in Florida, Montana, Ohio and Oregon. Voters in Colorado rejected similar proposals in 2008 and 2010.

    Barbour, long considered a 2012 presidential candidate before he ruled out a run this year, said a week ago that he was undecided. A day later, he voted absentee for the amendment, but said he struggled with his support.

    "Some very strongly pro-life people have raised questions about the ambiguity and about the actual consequences — whether there are unforeseen, unintended consequences. And I'll have to say that I have heard those concerns and they give me some pause," Barbour said last week.

    Barbour was prevented from seeking re-election because of term limits. The Democrat and Republican candidates vying to replace him both supported the abortion measure.

    Specifically, the proposed state constitutional amendment defined a person "to include every human being from the moment of fertilization, cloning, or the functional equivalent thereof."

    The state's largest Christian denomination, the Mississippi Baptist Convention, backed the proposal through its lobbying arm.

    The bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Mississippi and the General Conference of the United Methodist Church opposed it.

    Bishop Joseph Latino of the Catholic Diocese of Jackson, a church traditionally against abortion, issued a statement neither supporting nor opposing the initiative. The Mississippi State Medical Association took a similar step while other medical groups opposed it.

    Mississippi already requires parental or judicial consent for any minor to get an abortion, mandatory in-person counseling and a 24-hour wait before any woman can terminate a pregnancy.

     
    • A  •  Needham, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Now get out of my bedroom (or doctor's office) and start working on JOBS!
      • Jenny S 6 mths ago
        if I could give more than one thumb up I would definitely give you dozens!
      • DT 6 mths ago
        They ALL, ds and rs alike, caused the job situation and the economy collapse so voting for either to continue is asinine and shows that you are definitely brainwashed.
    • harrypotter39090  •  Brookhaven, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Listen people! this bill was not about killing babies! it was about birth control, invetro fertilization, and miscarriage!

      birth control is a pill you take before you have sex so you wont get pregnant during intercourse because condoms break (trust me) you eliminate birth control, more births would occur!

      invetro fertilization is not "cloning" its basically taking the couple's sperm and egg, fusing it manually and ejecting it into the female (sometimes via surrogate) because the female/male is sterile!

      miscarriage is not murder! its not abortion! its a complication in the pregnancy that is unpreventable! if the baby has heart disease and no one saw it, how can you accuse the mother of killing her child?
      • JOhn 6 mths ago
        what #$%$ thought invetro fertilization was cloning????? I can't believe someone could be that stupid...
      • harrypotter39090 6 mths ago
        thats what its defined here as... its crazy! these republicans are lazy, stupid, stubborn, and big babies!
      • JOhn 6 mths ago
        no need for the political lables ..puts your intellect in question.....just saying
    • The voice of reason  •  6 mths ago
      Wow. A glimmer of sanity in a world gone mad.

      Perhaps there is hope on the horizon, after all.
      • Voxpopuli 6 mths ago
        Very well said, my feelings exactly !!!
      • John 6 mths ago
        funny how you actually think that legalized end of life is a glimmer of sanity. I believe abortion should be a choice but your sense of logic in your post makes my skin crawl that this is where humanity has arrived...
      • Super Hot Chick 6 mths ago
        Yes, a glimmer of sanity in a world gone mad is killing kids so some stupid #$%$ doesn't get stretch marks. You idiots deserve the dystopian idiocracy you are creating.
    • p  •  Dallas, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Let's see...Hoover, Mason, Barbour..one thing in common..they have never been pregnant
      • Jake 6 mths ago
        Let's see, teen moms who got pregnant because they just want to have random sex...what do they all have in common? absence of responsibility. Let's face it, abortion isn't always done because of rape. It's because of girls who didn't think about what's going to happen after sex.
      • Laura 6 mths ago
        So we condemn them to misery and poverty because they're ignorant? Brains do not fully develop until age 21: the Logic and Reasoning centers are immature till then. People make mistakes. Including the boys who impregnate them.
      • p 6 mths ago
        @ Jake...Ahhhh..another MAN weighs in.....go get an episiotomy and then let's talk
    • jo  •  6 mths ago
      If a church gets involved in political matters they should not be allowed to keep their tax exempt status.
      • Jake 6 mths ago
        The church influences people anway. TRUE separation of church and state can never be truly done.
    • AwakeAlertOrientedx3  •  6 mths ago
      People who insist mothers should see their fetus by ultrasound before they abort it or watch an abortion video first should also insist Americans who want to eat a hamburger watch a video of the cow and its slaughter just before they eat.
    • Snowboards4You  •  6 mths ago
      Man, I was really scared for America this morning and while I still am I must say I am relieved that this wacko initiative got shot down.

      Stop preaching for less government with your left hand while writing new laws that infringe on other peoples lives. It is getting old and we are ready to snap. Keep it up and see just how high regular people can stand.

      This is not a threat but a promise! You will ALL be voted out in 2012 regardless of politics, race, or religion. All of you, gone!
    • john  •  6 mths ago
      I guess the political wind just wasn't blowing hard enough in either direction for Mr. Barbour to make a firm commitment.
    • guyfox  •  6 mths ago
      #$%$.. Senate Bill 5 in Ohio and now this...!!! oink, oink,
    • JOhn  •  6 mths ago
      remember kids::::::::::: Religion created by man to control man
    • Jim  •  6 mths ago
      "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye to reason." - Ben Franklin.
      "Lighthouses are more helpful than churches." - Franklin.
      "The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." - Thomas Jefferson. “It is always better to have no ideas than false ones; to believe nothing, than to believe what is wrong.”Thomas Jefferson (1788) "The Bible is not my book, nor Christianity my profession." - Lincoln.
      "I do not believe in the divinity of Christ, and there are many other postulates of the orthodox creed to which I cannot subscribe." - Wm. Howard Taft. “Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.”
      James Madison (1774)
      As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?
      -- John Adams
      The question before the human race is, whether the God of nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether priests and kings shall rule it by fictitious miracles?
      -- John Adams, letter to Thomas Jefferson
    • BigZ  •  6 mths ago
      Congratulations to free thinking people everywhere!
    • Jerome  •  Seattle, United States  •  6 mths ago
      If doesn't pass in Mississippi, I doubt it will pass anywhere.... except iran.
    • R E D O X  •  6 mths ago
      Another #$%$ Republitard move to control human behavior in unwanted ways. You went Too Far and now revenge awaits at the Polls. !
    • julie  •  Austin, United States  •  6 mths ago
      In a time of so much turmoil and trouble in this country, people have nothing better to do than obsess over stranger's uteri? Sad and pathetic.
    • arielg  •  New York, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Yesterday I wrote: "ABORT this idea, Mississippi voters!". Today I just go to write two words: THANK YOU!
    • Jenni  •  6 mths ago
      A woman should have and DOES have the right to determine ANYTHING that goes into her body or comes out of it. I will pick up arms and exercise MY 2nd amendment if you EVERY try to force me to do something with my body that I don't want to do. You mind YOUR body and I'll mind MINE...thankyouverymuch!
    • American Citizen  •  Wheat Ridge, United States  •  6 mths ago
      The Japanese ride around on bullet trains and Americans debate personhood laws. Exhibit A as to why the US is heading down the road to third world status.
    • Beth  •  6 mths ago
      Even if it had passed, I don't see how it could be enforced. Mississippi voters made the right choice. I hope the "people in Colorado," who pushed for this law -- AKA the Family Research Council -- will take note and leave the other states alone.
    • Anonymous  •  6 mths ago
      As a student in medical school, I would be shocked if someone stated that life begins at conception. If that is the case, then over 50% of "pregnancies" end in abortion (the true medical term of abortion and not the political term) because about half the time the zygote fails to implant in the uterus and ends up being discharged with the period. Add in the miscarriages and other spontaneous abortions (pregnancies that just end unexpectedly and sometimes before the women ever knows or the fertilized egg just never develops) and this ends up being well over 65% of pregnancies.
      If life begins at conception then our bodies are the ultimate murderers.
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