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    Name Change Is A Roadblock On Couple's Trip To The Altar

    DEAR ABBY: My fiance, "Kip," and I are being married next year and we have only one disappointment. It's about my keeping my last name. I don't want to take Kip's last name.

    I have had the same name for 33 years and I do not believe a woman "has" to take her husband's name when they marry. However, the biggest issue for me is my fiance never knew his father, who left when Kip was a baby. I do not wish to take the name of a man who neither of us knows, and who had no positive influence on our lives. I'm part of a close-knit family, and I am proud to bear the name of my father -- a hardworking, dedicated Vietnam veteran.

    Am I out of line? We will accept your answer because we are unable to resolve this ourselves. -- STANDING MY GROUND IN NEW JERSEY

    DEAR STANDING: While most women still change their names to their husband's (or hyphenate them), those who don't usually have established themselves in a career in which they are known by their maiden name. Others fear that if they change their names they'll lose their identity.

    No one can or should decide this for you. However, if Kip did know his dad and the man was a fine, upstanding citizen, would you feel differently? Remember, you are marrying Kip, not his father, and I assume your fiance is a wonderful person. Given your logic, because he had no relationship with his father, should he change his name to yours? Please make no decisions about this until you two have talked this out more fully.


    DEAR ABBY: My siblings and I never hear from my grandmother unless she's in town, and then it's usually for one day out of the two weeks she's here. She never calls on holidays, birthdays or just to say hello. Yes, we call her on these special days.

    We have other grandparents who wouldn't let a week go by without calling to ask how we are, how we are doing in school or just to talk.

    My mom is a grandma to my oldest sister's children and when she doesn't see or hear from them within a week, she'll call or visit them. (By the way, my grandmother is retired, very healthy and travels. When she does, we don't even get a postcard!) What's wrong with her? -- HURT FEELINGS IN MASSACHUSETTS

    DEAR HURT FEELINGS: I agree that you didn't get the standard-issue doting, cookie-baking grandmother. Not knowing her, I can't explain the reason for her distant behavior, but I'm positive it has nothing to do with you personally. She may be preoccupied with her own life, or it may have something to do with the relationship she has with your parents. If you really want the answer to your question, the person you should ask is your grandmother the next time she comes to town.


    DEAR ABBY: When I'm out in public, there's always someone saying, "Oh, you're so tiny!" or, "I didn't see you down there," or, "You're so cute!" Abby, I am 83 years old with white hair. I was never tall to begin with, and I have lost close to 4 inches due to a bad back (with constant pain), spine surgery and osteoporosis.

    Please remind your readers to abstain from making remarks about a person's size. I don't feel "cute," and I don't appreciate the constant reminders about my disability. Am I too sensitive? -- VERTICALLY CHALLENGED IN ANN ARBOR, MICH.

    DEAR VERTICALLY CHALLENGED: I don't think so. You have stated your feelings very well, but I'm pleased to remind readers that comments about someone's personal appearance ("You're so tall," "You're so small, "You're so thin") can hit a sore spot, and to refrain from saying the first thing that comes to mind because it may be rude or hurtful.


    Dear Abby is written by Abigail Van Buren, also known as Jeanne Phillips, and was founded by her mother, Pauline Phillips. Write Dear Abby at www.DearAbby.com or P.O. Box 69440, Los Angeles, CA 90069.


    What teens need to know about sex, drugs, AIDS and getting along with peers and parents is in "What Every Teen Should Know." To order, send a business-sized, self-addressed envelope, plus check or money order for $6 (U.S. funds) to: Dear Abby -- Teen Booklet, P.O. Box 447, Mount Morris, IL 61054-0447. (Postage is included in the price.)

     
    • edward  •  Seattle, Washington  •  4 mths ago
      That would be a deal braker for me. We could still be together but I would still be looking for my wife.
    • Rick S  •  Denver, Colorado  •  4 mths ago
      LW3 - Oh, that letter was so cute. What she should do is learn to look up, motion for the offender to bend down, look them in the eye and say, “Buggar off, Bozo!”. There is just something so charming about a white haired old lady that can cuss like a British stevedore.
      • TwoCents 4 mths ago
        Yeah, or say, "And you're so rude!" or "And you're so UGLY!" or "And you SMELL SO BAD!"
      • Rick S 4 mths ago
        TwoCents -now, that would be childish wouldn't it? That's not what we're going for here.
      • A Yahoo! User 4 mths ago
        People are so rude. Commenting on someone else's physical appearance is wrong on so many levels. Even if they think that they are positive comments. Oh, sure; they can say that you look nice in your outfit, or something like that, but I'm talking about one's personal appearance such as their weight, height, facial construction, hair, nose, etc. They should just leave it alone. Everyone has something about themselves that they don't particularly like and they don't want to be reminded of it.
    • Stef  •  4 mths ago
      Funny one about surnames: My godmother took her hubby's name when they married. He was a journalist, and got tired of people mispronouncing his (admittedly difficult) surname, so he started using her maiden surname professionally! For years people thought she had simply kept her name, when in reality he appropriated it!
      Luckily they both had a sense of humor about the whole thing.
      Personally, even if I remarry, I won't bother changing my name again. I'm not some man's property after all.
      • nanchan 4 mths ago
        plus its a major pain to change your name...
      • K. 4 mths ago
        Social security, banks, stocks, mortgage, retirement accounts, utilities, real estate, car, work...
      • Cynthia R 4 mths ago
        My husband wanted to change his name to mine when we got married, because it sounds pretty funny with the rest of his name and he thought it was hilarious. I talked him out of it. I might have kept my maiden name if I'd like it, but I hated it, so away it went.
    • Melissa B  •  4 mths ago
      WOW!! Last names are apparently a touchy subject for some people. Obviously it is an individual choice and should be respected. When I married, I took my new husband's last name. When we divorced, I kept the name since I have developed a career using it and he was perfectly fine with that (it was an amicable parting). I am now in a long term relationship and we are discussing getting married. I have told my potential husband that I will keep the surname that I currently have both because I want to and because of business. He is fine with it. Alternately, I know of a couple who, when they married, didn't particularly care for the last name that either of them had, so the found a name that they did like and they both changed their last name to the one that they had mutually agreed upon.

      I believe that people should make their own choice and it should be respected by their partner.
      • Cat M 4 mths ago
        I can't believe it's still such a huge issue with people. Do what you want! I am going keep count on how many times this year someone asks this very question. If this is a major dilemma how do they approach the subject of religion and children?
    • Rick S  •  Denver, Colorado  •  4 mths ago
      I do feel for LW3 though. I wish people could just be polite and not make mention of other people's physical appearance. I get so tired of hearing about my height, my smokin' hot body, my movie star good looks (no, I’m not Hugh Jackman, but thanks anyway) and my buns of steel (aluminum now..not as young as I used to be), my exceptionally good silver fox hair (and it’s looking very good today by the way). It’s just tiring. A simple, “How are you. Nice to see again” would be just fine. Oh well. My cross to bear I suppose. Sigh . . . . .
      • Fortuna 4 mths ago
        I had no idea the burden you are forced to carry. My sympathies.
      • Toeless_Joe_Jackson 4 mths ago
        I have that same problem, except people think I'm Captain Kangaroo. :)
      • Joe Smith 4 mths ago
        I thought you were dancing bare
    • Tree Dweller  •  Charlottesville, Virginia  •  4 mths ago
      If I had it to do over, I'd still have my maiden name (do we still call it that?) for reasons of my own. However, I would think twice about marrying a person who held my ancestor's behavior against me, and used it to win a point, especially a parent who is not even in the picture. As with one of yesterday's letters, I wish we'd heard from the fiance. If you want to keep you name, keep your name. But don't bring up his family's skeletons as an excuse to do so. That's just mean.
      • mouse1797 4 mths ago
        I agree, her reasons are odd. But as someone who deeply regrets changing my last name (I gave in to pressure), I would advise her to hold on off changing it if she really wants to keep her own last name. She can always change it later if she decides to.
      • Fortuna 4 mths ago
        Her reasons are a bit odd, unless he used his illustrious family name and history as a reason why she should change.
      • Morning Meeting Woman 4 mths ago
        Amen TD! I think she is just fishing for excuses. If she doesn't want to change her name....FINE! that is excuse enough! Of course......If his father was Charles Manson.....hmmmmm....I might see her point!
    • JasonT  •  Mankato, Minnesota  •  4 mths ago
      Well, if her last name is MacAwesome and his is Stinkberger, I think they should both go with MacAwesome.
    • Fat Drunk and Stupid  •  4 mths ago
      A woman should keep her name if she likes it. My family name is very uncommon and is in danger of dying out on my father's branch of the family tree because his three sons have only delivered one male, and my nephew does not plan to have children. However, he did get married last year, so who knows? My niece kept her name, but her son has her husband's last name.

      My wife took my name when we married, then went back to her maiden name when we divorced, then kept her maiden name when we remarried. When she died, I put the hyphenated name on the obituary so people could identify her either way, but her tombstone has her maiden name, because that is how she identified herself.
    • Simone G  •  Louisville, Kentucky  •  4 mths ago
      STANDING MY GROUND IN NEW JERSEY: When I got married the first time there was no way I was going to take my husbands name. He was from Germany and his name was not easy to pronounce. He decided to take my name. We were married for 7 years but had no children, and have been divorced for double that. To this day he still carries my name. I understand you not wanting to give up your name but it should not be because of his non-present father.
    • EllieMckellie  •  Austin, Texas  •  4 mths ago
      Hey - I'm a grandma (by marriage only) and I'm pretty certain them kids would think I'd suddenly lost my mind if I was all up in their business every week.
    • SarahD  •  4 mths ago
      L2: Some of us just don't have that family-oriented chip in our brain that makes us constantly want or need to reach out and touch base. For those of us who don't run down the list of family members and call each week, or don't have the desire to spend more than a week (total) a year visiting family, it's nothing personal.

      We're happy to see you and talk to you and catch up when we do touch base, but that's all we need to fulfill our personal connection to you. If you need more than that to fulfill your personal connection to the distant family member, then take the initiative and make that contact. If you sit and wait by the phone for us to call, you'll be waiting awhile.

      It's hard to explain this personality quirk to people who need or want more contact, so I can only reiterate: It's not because we don't care about you; it's not because we dislike you; we are just "filled up" by minimal contact.
    • Snow Bunny-Rebel  •  Abbyville, Kansas  •  4 mths ago
      Anniversary time, fellow Abbylanders!
      t was on this day in 1956 when the "Dear Abby" advice column first appeared in print, in the San Francisco Chronicle. Purportedly written by Abigail Van Buren, the pen name of Pauline (Friedman) Phillips.
    • Fat Drunk and Stupid  •  4 mths ago
      Her name was Magill, and she called herself Lil, but everyone knew her as Nancy.

      I can call you Betty, and Betty when you call me, you can call me Al.
    • Seirios  •  4 mths ago
      LW2 states that her Grandmother is "retired, very healthy and travels," but what the lw doesn't understand is that being retired, very healthy and traveling means Grandma has a life of her own.
    • JH  •  Boston, Massachusetts  •  4 mths ago
      Oh Abby, get over yourself. Women don't have to be anything (established in a career, or whatnot) other than who they are. There are cultures where women don't lose their last name like in the States and all children automatically have both names. Or, as I said to my husband, you met Ms__ , proposed to Ms__ , and married Ms____, so why on earth should I be Mrs Someone Else?

      If you choose to keep your name it's no one's business but yours.
    • credit union guy  •  Oklahoma City, Oklahoma  •  4 mths ago
      # I have no comment on her decision to change her name. That is for them to work out. However, his name will be what he makes of it. His children will associate the name with their father not their non existant grandfather.
    • new ol'lady  •  4 mths ago
      The kid's grandmother is known to her friends as Auntie Mame ...
    • Morning Meeting Woman  •  4 mths ago
      Ok, youse guys who think a mother should have the same last name as her children......
      when my honey bunny was a kid, his parents divorced. His mom went on to remarry when he was in highschool.....and she took her husbands name, as many of you feel is right. But, of course, Honey Bunny kept his own name. I honestly don't think he suffered any from this, but I am going to ask him when I get home tonight!
    • Thinker Clifford ☰ ➔ ☷  •  Angels Camp, California  •  4 mths ago
      LOL! So, I get a Yahoo news-for-you item about a guy named Beezow Doo-Doo Zopittybop-bop-bop. We now understand why LW #1 does not want to take her fiance's last name.
    • Rick S  •  Denver, Colorado  •  4 mths ago
      Regarding the name thing I was wondering what gay couples do I googled it and here’s what I found. I think straight couples could have the same options.
      Q. I’m confused as to how gays and lesbians decide what family name to go by. I know it’s only been a couple of years since gay marriage became legal, but is there a “new” tradition?
      A. Certainly, the predominant custom to date for same-sex couples is for each to keep his or her name, but this is by no means always the case. There are actually a number of other choices open to us, too — none of which I imagine will shock you.
      By the way, it’s worth noting that when a lesbian or gay couple does make a name change (or two), it has little to do with the type of religious or civil ceremony they choose — or whether or not the marriage is legal in the eyes of the government. If anything, it reflects a couple’s views on the symbolic component of a family name, which is to say their public identity.
      Here are the four basic options available:
      1. No change: Frank Roberts and Mack Stasio simply stay Frank Roberts and Mack Stasio. With no patriarchal default and no weight of history or tradition, this is what most same-sex couples choose to do. The downside is that you don’t have the instant family identity that sharing a surname confers.
      2. Hyphenate names: A dual last name proclaims publicly that you have merged into a family unit. Giselle Ullman and Jeanne Basile become Giselle and Jeanne Ullman-Basile (or Basile-Ullman). There’s no rule as to whose name goes first; most couples make the decision based on how the new name sounds to them.
      3. One partner takes the other’s name: Some gay couples opt to choose between their family names. For instance, Ariel Sexton and Arturo Gomez might become Ariel and Arturo Gomez. This is an especially good option when kids are involved.
      4. Choose a brand-new name: Creating a new last name by combining family names is a viable option and not that uncommon. It generally involves more legal work for the couple, not to mention a little extra effort from friends and family to remember.
      Now, to answer the question you didn’t ask: How do you know what name they will go by? If it’s not clear from their stationery or a newspaper wedding announcement, or if they haven’t said anything, don’t be shy — ask!
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