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    NATO's Taliban bombshell: Is Pakistan our enemy?

    A secret NATO report obtained by the BBC suggests that Pakistan is actively helping the Taliban battle the Afghan government — and U.S. troops

    As Pakistani Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar was en route to Afghanistan Wednesday to mend strained relations between the neighboring countries, the BBC published excerpts from a secret NATO document accusing Pakistan of directly aiding the Taliban's bloody battle against the Afghan government and U.S.-led forces. The NATO report, based on 27,000 interrogations of some 4,000 Taliban and al Qaeda detainees, also paints the picture of a confident Taliban that expects to conquer Afghanistan when NATO forces leave. Still, Pakistan's powerful Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) spy agency "emerges from this document looking considerably more villainous, even, than the Taliban itself," editorializes The Times of London. Here, six key talking points surrounding NATO's "painful" report:

    1. Pakistan is the Taliban's puppet-master
    Pakistan publicly supported the Taliban until the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the U.S., after which it ostensibly cut ties. But "Pakistan's manipulation of the Taliban senior leadership continues unabated," the NATO report says. The "ISI is thoroughly aware of Taliban activities and the whereabouts of all senior Taliban personnel," some of whom even "maintain residences in the immediate vicinity of ISI headquarters in Islamabad." This "fascinating" report "mostly confirms what was already known," says Matthew Symonds in The Economist. But it's "rich in anecdotal evidence about the way... the ISI controls and sustains the Taliban."

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    2. The Taliban isn't thrilled with the relationship
    The leaked report "portrays the Taliban as being under the thumb" of the ISI, but also "resenting that control," says Julian Borger in Britain's The Guardian. In one quote, a senior al Qaeda commander in Kunar province gripes: "Pakistan knows everything. They control everything. I can't [expletive] on a tree in Kunar without them watching. The Taliban are not Islam. The Taliban are Islamabad." The report concludes that "the Taliban do not trust Pakistan, yet there is widespread acceptance of the status quo in lieu of realistic alternatives."

    3. Pakistan denies the allegations
    Khar dismissed the report as "old wine in an even older bottle," and "a potentially strategic leak" aimed at derailing her trip to Kabul. The accusations are "ridiculous," foreign ministry spokesman Abdul Basit tells the BBC. "We are committed to non-interference in Afghanistan." Besides, Pakistani legislator Tariq Azim tells Reuters, the Taliban "don't need any backing." NATO still can't control a singe province after 10 years "because of the wrong policies they have been following," not Pakistani interference.

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    4. Nobody's buying the denial
    "The semi-comforting belief that only 'rogue elements' in the ISI have close connections to the Taliban never had much basis in fact and it has less now," says The Economist's Symonds. I don't blame the ISI, says Paul Koring in Canada's Globe and Mail. With NATO cutting and running next year, leaving a resurgent Taliban next door, I'd say the "Pakistani decision to hedge its bets and retain influence, if not control, over the Taliban seems to be paying off." There's a big difference between maintaining contact with the Taliban and "helping a disruptive insurgency," says Aryn Baker in TIME. If NATO's right, the ISI "has crossed that line."

    5. The Taliban believes it is winning the war
    "Taliban commanders, along with rank and file members, increasingly believe their control of Afghanistan is inevitable," the report says. "Though the Taliban suffered severely in 2011, its strength, motivation, funding, and tactical proficiency remains intact." Taliban prisoners also tell NATO that they have broad support among Afghanis, and even defecting Afghan security forces. That's certainly a "stark contrast to NATO's far more bullish official line, that the insurgent movement has been severely damaged and demoralized," says The Guardian's Borger.

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    6. That doesn't necessarily mean they are
    The report only reflects the views of "ruthless, highly motivated" Taliban detainees, so "you have to take it all with a really big grain of salt," says Lt. Col. Jimmie Cummings, a spokesman for NATO forces. "It is what they either do believe or what they want us to believe," says another spokesman, Brig. Gen. Carsten Jacobson. But they're wrong. It's hard to know how seriously to take "the bullish view of the Taliban's prospects," says The Economist's Symonds. The detainees are wrong that a Taliban-led Afghanistan is inevitable, but the Taliban can keep trying "as long as Pakistan believes it is in its strategic interests to give it material and moral support."

    Sources: BBC News (2), Economist, Globe and Mail, Guardian, Los Angeles Times, Reuters, TIME

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    • Topkick  •  3 mths ago
      "Bombshell," to whom? Anyone and everyone involved has known this for years! Pakistan has always been a safe haven for the Taliban. Where was Bin Laden "vacationing" as we scoured the world for him? Pakistanis detest all their neighbors: Afghans Indians, etc. & the U.S. as well!
      • wade 3 mths ago
        the U.S. in particular.
      • bill 3 mths ago
        all muslim countrys are our enemys
      • TruthB 3 mths ago
        Thought Wilson's War did well in US box offices!
    • Curmudgeon  •  3 mths ago
      I do not trust Pakistan. Do you?
      Agree??? or Disagree??
      Thumbs up= Agree. Thumbs down= Disagree.
      • Galapagos 3 mths ago
        Pakistani's don't even trust you for a moment.
        Agree??? or Disagree??
        Thumbs up= Agree. Thumbs down= Disagree.
      • Curmudgeon 3 mths ago
        Gal-Pagos, no, they probably do not. Coming from a culture where one must always be afraid of one's neighbor, listening for the lie, and considering EVERYbody as out to steal everything you have (even your life) for basic survival, the urban Pak's I've met have little trust in their fellow man. Remember that for many generations across this great land, a man's word was usually as good as his bond, and that a handshake sealed far more deals than our present multitude of lawyers. What have WE become!
    • Jim R  •  3 mths ago
      Is Pakistan our enemy??? Is the sky blue???
    • Anthony H  •  Sacramento, California  •  3 mths ago
      I was a soldier and one of my friends likewise a former soldier noted that often he and his fellow soldiers would defeat and chase the Taliban who would flee back into Pakistan from whence they came. Yet this is not surprising since the Pakistani Taliban and the Afghan Taliban are the same Pashtun Paskistani Taliban. How many families have been affected by Pakistans support of the Taliban and thus Pakistans support of TERRORISM? Pakistans duplicity is obvious when they wish to the Pakistani doctor who gave info to our CIA for treason. Treason for what? Pakistanis your nation is led by idiotic fools who are pushing the USA to do what it should have done all along, cut off all aid to your country, and seize all Pakistans assets and redistribute to victims of terrorism and familiets of servicemembers who have fallen. I believe utterly that Pakistan is thus indirectly responisble for 911 and should thus be held accountable for it.
    • Keith  •  3 mths ago
      This is no surprise--bin Laden was living there for years--the Pakistanis have been deceitful and uncooperative with the US in many areas--but sometimes you have to make a deal with the Devil to facilitate other activities specifically the war in Afghanistan. A domino exercise of bad judgment---The interests of Pakistan and the US are not the same--and the US will be leaving Pakistan to deal with the situation. Military engagements post WWII seem to suggest the US does not have the military capacity or political will to unconditionally win a war--which probably means we should choose the military engagements and define foreign policy more carefully. But also means any of our allies are likely viewing the full support of the US as temporary. Getting into a fight that you do not intend to win seems like a bad idea for everybody involved.
    • Doug S  •  Annapolis, Maryland  •  3 mths ago
      Of COURSE Pakistan is our enemy. Who didn't know?
    • SnowKatcher  •  3 mths ago
      NATO's Taliban bombshell: Is Pakistan our enemy?

      Yes NATO, Pakistan is our enemy.
    • Careful  •  3 mths ago
      WOW, we are brilliant!!! We have already said we are pulling out. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD SUPPORT THE US EFFORTS NOW???
      We leave, you get your head cut off.
      • Iconoblaster 3 mths ago
        Which alternative to announcing our departure would you prefer?
        (1) Staying forever; (2) Sneaking out without telling anyone.

        Too late for the simplest military option: destroy al Qaeda, engaging no Afghan forces at all except those which resist or present an obstacle to that mission.. accomplish that mission with overwhelming force, and no apologies... and then leave, without trying to rebuild Afghanistan, or impose a government upon the Afghans, in the forlorn hope it would remain friendly and in power after we depart.
      • Careful 3 mths ago
        @Iconoblaster - I agree that's what we SHOULD have done. We have NEVER won a war that was not waged against the whole of the enemy's populace, i.e. Total War. Haven't done that since WWII. Waging war while trying to to hurt anyone is doomed to failure.

        And actually, your second option is better than announcing the date we will just QUIT! I'll go home and drink tea until you are gone.
      • Careful 3 mths ago
        that should be: "not to hurt anyone"
    • Mik  •  Greenville, South Carolina  •  3 mths ago
      And somehow that is something new!? Everyone knows that Pakistan is behind the Tailban. Why wouldn't they be? It's in there best interests. SO, quite being studpid. They all play both ends. We give them money...they say thanks and show a fake facade of supporting the US. Like I said...they all do it.
    • Bsaid  •  Denver, Colorado  •  3 mths ago
      How slow witted Americans seem to be. This was the case when 9-11 occured! Not a single intelligent and knowledgable person thought otherwise. If you thought Pakistan was pro US your devoid of logic, critcal thinking and a basic understanding of how controlling and harmful to peace that religion is. (and just as much here in the US)
    • hn  •  Bellevue, Washington  •  3 mths ago
      Duh... Pakistan is not the enemy? Why was money for 9/11 sent from Pakistan? Why was OBL captured from their military town? Why is the doctor who helped capture OBL in trouble? Duh...
    • Big Oil is watching  •  San Diego, California  •  3 mths ago
      support India, sell them all the military equipment they will buy!!
    • Muzzie Hunter  •  Kansas City, Missouri  •  3 mths ago
      We give Pakistan millions a month so they can give the Taliban money to fight us with. Go figure Obama's stratagy on that... We need to go after all the Taliban where they live in Pakistan so this all ends some day.. Don't have to be even very smart to figure that one out.
    • dave  •  Richardson, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      all the billions we give pakistan, mexico and all the other countries and what do we get in return? nothing but request for more money!
    • Jeffrey  •  Austin, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      Pakistan has always been an enemy. No more money, impose strict sanctions and start bombing them into submission along with Iran.
    • Nick  •  New York, New York  •  3 mths ago
      In 2002 the USA should have placed 300,000 troop on the ground in Afghanistan after those holy warriors scattered like cockroaches when the USA went after the Taliban and al Queda in 2001. Instead of wasting over 4600 lives in Iraq we should have warned Pakistan to hand over all militants who escaped to their country or the bombing would commence on their side of the border. This never happened due to the fact Pakistan has nuclear weapons. If Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction they were sent to Syria or any other middle eastern country. There was absolutely no reason to invade Iraq because the USA and NATO had his military cornered with a no fly zone and he had control over the lunatics.
    • James  •  Bakersfield, California  •  3 mths ago
      Our only hope is that mulsims contimue to kill more of each other than they are us. Keep up the good work of Allah!
    • USA Today  •  Irvine, California  •  3 mths ago
      And this is a suprise to anyone? Really? People need to wake up. Especially our OWN government! And don't forget that your hard earned tax dollars pay Billions every year to Pakistan. Great stuff here!
    • Jenn  •  3 mths ago
      Shocker...not. Who in their right mind doesn't know that Pakistan is playing a double game with the US? On the one hand they demand money and arms to be our "ally" against terror. ON the other they harbor and train the taliban, knowing that the US will leave and they will be back in business.

      Anyone who trusts the Pakistanis is just plain stupid. They have never been our friends or allies. They exist for 2 reasons only, to control Afghanistan and to destroy India. Besides that they have no basis for existence. Do not pay them for killing our troops.

      They brought all this on themselves, now let them clean it up.
    • Berkeley  •  Fair Oaks, California  •  3 mths ago
      first, there is not one Pakistan. That is your problem. There are many Pakistans. Even the cities remain tribal andd clan oriented.