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    No cussing in class for teachers, lawmaker says

    PHOENIX (AP) — A teacher's role may be to expand a student's vocabulary, but one Arizona lawmaker wants to make sure that doesn't include four-letter words.

    A state legislator has introduced a bill that would punish public school teachers if they use words that violate the obscenity and profanity guidelines set forth by the Federal Communications Commission.

    State Sen. Lori Klein introduced the measure because a parent in her district complained about a high school teacher using foul language.

    The words were "totally inappropriate," and teachers that don't keep their language clean aren't setting a good example for students, she said.

    "You're there to be educated," Klein said. "You're not there to talk smack."

    Critics say the bill is unnecessary and any discipline needed should be handled by schools and districts, not the Legislature.

    Klein, a Republican from Anthem, made national headlines last fall when she pointed her gun at a reporter while demonstrating the weapon's laser sight during an interview.

    Klein's proposal may be constitutional, but "not necessarily wise," said James Weinstein, a Constitutional Law professor at Arizona State University

    Weinstein said the FCC has made exceptions for offensive language based on context, and that could make things complicated.

    "FCC standards aren't exactly black and white," said Anjali Abraham, a lobbyist for the American Civil Liberties Union. The organization has some concerns about the bill, Abraham said.

    A spokeswoman for the National Conference of State Legislators said the organization is not aware of any other state with a law similar to the Arizona proposal.

    If the bill becomes law, a teacher whose speech or conduct violates FCC regulations would receive a warning, and after three incidents, the teacher would face a week of suspension without pay. A teacher would be fired after the fifth offense.

    The proposal applies to K-12 teachers, and is limited to speech in a classroom setting.

    Klein told the Senate committee Wednesday that she wished the issue could be left to school boards, but she didn't feel they were protecting "young, impressionable kids" from offensive language.

    Floyd Brown, the parent in Anthem who complained to Klein, knows better than most what kind of impression words can make.

    Brown is a longtime Republican strategist who produced the infamous "Willie Horton" ad during the 1998 presidential campaign, which tied Democratic candidate Michael Dukakis to the release of a convicted murderer serving a life sentence.

    Brown is also the founding chairman of Citizens United, the group whose lawsuit led to a 2010 Supreme Court ruling that barred the government from limiting corporation and labor union spending for political purposes.

    Last year, Brown's daughter Olivia came home from high school upset that a teacher was using the F-word in class. Brown brought the issue to school administrators, but they didn't take him seriously, he said.

    Brown said he pulled his daughter, then a sophomore, out of the school and she's now being homeschooled.

    "I'm not going to subject my daughter to that kind of environment," Brown said

    Brown said he took his complaint to Klein because he lives in her district.

    A representative for the school district said the school received no complaints about staff using inappropriate language, which would violate the district's professional conduct policy.

    Most districts adopt professional conduct policies barring the use of profane language or actions by employees while at work, said Tracey Benson, a spokeswoman for the Arizona School Boards Association, which creates model policies for districts.

    That policy should remain in the hands of school boards, superintendents and principals, said state Sen. David Schapira, a Tempe Democrat.

    The state doesn't need to change the law just because there was one incident that "may not have been handled the right way," he said.

    "I don't remember this being a big problem when I taught high school," Schapira said.

    A Senate committee advanced the measure Wednesday morning by a vote of 5-2 along party lines, with Republicans in favor. The bill must pass through another committee before it goes before the full Senate.

    Sen. Frank Antenori, a Republican from Tucson, voted in favor of the bill and cited a recent report he had read that detailed a pattern of abusive language being used by teachers and other staffers in some Tucson schools. Antenori said some of the comments were "pretty darn shocking" and he couldn't believe the employees didn't lose their jobs.

    Sen. Steve Gallardo, D-Phoenix, who voted against the bill, said administrators and school boards should be the ones to punish educators, not the Legislature.

    "We're really holding a big hammer over teachers," Gallardo said.

    Kelly Parrish, an English teacher at Desert Vista High School in Phoenix, said she always keeps her conduct professional in the classroom, but she feels the restrictions could cause trouble when the curriculum is not "G-rated," she said. Words that the FCC would not allow on television or radio can come up while discussing literature, such as racial slurs in "To Kill a Mockingbird," she said.

    "We're supposed to be preparing them for the next level," Parrish said. "If we just put them in a bubble and protect them, I don't think we're doing a good job at making them ready for real-life situations by sugar-coating everything."

     
    • vegthai  •  3 mths ago
      Kids should have to be just as accountable as teachers.
      • Dan 3 mths ago
        As a teacher I WANT to agree, but I can't. Our job is to set the standard and help guide. No teacher anywhere needs to use offensive language at work.
      • GeGe 3 mths ago
        Dan - I agree with you, teachers' conduct should be exemplary in all respects. No teacher anywhere needs to use offensive language at work.
    • devin  •  Santa Barbara, California  •  3 mths ago
      George Orwellian for sure. I'd wager that 99 percent of teachers don't cuss in class. I can imagine where some really unruly, terrible kids could push a teacher to the brink of letting one slip, but....we need the government to regulate their speech? Really? Students will pick up on this new law and will make life REALLY difficult for teachers they may not like, trying to get them fired. It will be the teacher's word vs. the students' words. The majority of the time it's the teachers who are combating foul language from students. Teachers are offended daily by students using foul language. Tell me again...who should be removed?
    • It Is What It Is  •  3 mths ago
      Any laws passed by our lawmakers should include them and make the lawmakers to be held twice as accountable as any citizen! These same lawmakers work by a different system of justice and usually exclude themselves from compliance or prosecution!
      • GeGe 3 mths ago
        It is - yup anytime a lawmaker is teaching children he or she hsould never use offensive language.

        And lawmakers should, in my opinion, be enjopined from using offensive language while they are at work.

        Offensive language - cussing - swearing - you know what I mean.
    • Michael  •  3 mths ago
      The kids have worse mouths than the teachers.
    • Man on a mission.  •  Mashpee, Massachusetts  •  3 mths ago
      There is also a Republican in Virginia that wanted to outlaw cussing in e-mails.
    • kofp  •  3 mths ago
      FCC Regulations? How about the 1st Amendment, since when did the FCC become more important than America's law and founding documents of government?
      • JBR 3 mths ago
        Did you not read the entire article? It stated specifically that only in-classroom speech would be covered?
        The 1st Amendment should not allow teachers to cuss out a class full of children.
    • bone57  •  3 mths ago
      What happens to a student when the same thing happens.
      • Deb 3 mths ago
        If a student does it, they get punished, and if they do it repeatedly, they get suspended, or expelled. Huh....imagine that.
      • Anonymous 3 mths ago
        the adults in charge should NOT be speaking in these low class ways...
      • Kimberly A.A 3 mths ago
        Deb, I sure hope you are right. I see so many students get away with so much nowdays. Most administrators are scared to death of the ones who act this way. Now, on the other hand, just try praying and you get the death penalty,
    • Vicki  •  Upland, California  •  3 mths ago
      Well, use some common sense! Don't drop an F-bomb, but I WILL continue to teach my students "Remember the Maine and To Hell With Spain."
      • Olivia Harlan 3 mths ago
        But Vicki...if one parent complains and makes a big deal out of it, you won't even be allowed to say that! In some states, it makes no difference WHICH word you use. I know of people who complained about someone saying "Jesus". Who was it? Some so-called Christians trying to say that people were using the Lord's name in vain when that scripture doesn't even MEAN or intend for that to be the case. The whole matter is stupid and all parents need to teach their own kids.
    • x  •  Windham, Ohio  •  3 mths ago
      Klein needs to spend time in a classroom and listen to how students talk to their teachers.
    • Joseph  •  Kingsport, Tennessee  •  3 mths ago
      All of our law makers, both Republicans and Democrats have completely lost their minds. We have far too many to begin with. The police state tightens its grip.
    • organizizer  •  San Francisco, California  •  3 mths ago
      for people who talk about freedom a lot, they sure do want to take it away a lot.
    • William  •  Amarillo, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      If it is in a quote I am going to use it...Censoring the orginial author is pathetic. Now, most words that come up in the quotes I would use are soft curse words such as #$%$ and I have openly used them before. You just need to teach the children about citations and respect for quotes and there is no issue. At least I haven't had a single issue. Less government to let us live our lives the way we want my arse lol.
    • eaw0002  •  3 mths ago
      the question is, when the government, being political, and one political party being in power, makes political speech by the other side a fcc non starter? when one party makes speech about voting for the other party illegal, then you will have a one party system. when the fcc makes discussion of any religious topics illegal, you will have a non religious system. limiting teachers to language about their subject only, is just anothet step in not educating the children. the people in charge want children dumb, with strong backs.
    • ClaudiaK  •  Arlington, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      These kids report a teacher for saying "Shut Up!" or for saying the word "dumb" or stupid. I know, I am a substitute and a student tried to turn on around on me. I commented that a comment was "dumb" and the student said I called him dumb. I said "No, I did not call you dumb." He said, " Yes, you did! You said it was dumb,." I said "Right, I said the comment was dumb. The comment being it. I did not know you were an it." These students do not even know the correct usage of words!
      I have never heard a teacher suss at a student, used foul language or anything for that matter. Government has ruined our schools enough, no body wants to learn, students do not want to learn, they are there to play and teachers have to walk on egg shells.
    • MATTHEW BERRY  •  Minneapolis, Minnesota  •  3 mths ago
      Well we have spent 20 years not teaching students how to establish themselves with good manners. We have let them swear, talk back, say no, and to be totally disrespectful. Guess what....Now there teachers!
    • imnotjohn  •  Birmingham, Alabama  •  3 mths ago
      I've always thought that we should teach people how and when to use profanity. I rarely use language like that. But if I've been pushed to the point of being angry, the words fly. Coming from me, the words carry impact because the people around me know I'm angry and will listen. I every other word out of your mouth is a four-letter word, the language carries no weight.
    • organizizer  •  San Francisco, California  •  3 mths ago
      This is "smaller government"?
    • Olivia Harlan  •  3 mths ago
      Eventually all parents are going to have to teach their own kids because I don't know how many teachers/coaches can continue to put up with this mess especially for a career that doesn't even pay well.
    • rick  •  Dover, New Jersey  •  3 mths ago
      I have been a teacher for 33 years and I have two words for the legislators and the second one is you.
    • BeatleDodger  •  3 mths ago
      I agree. But at the same time, they have to give the schools more leniancy (like they had years ago) to deal immediately with the troublemakers. A paddle does wonders. Even just the threat of a paddle. Why do you think there are so many distrespectful little cacas out there? The kids get away with too much crap...and they KNOW they can.
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