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    There Are No Quick Fixes for Apple's Foxconn Problem

    There Are No Quick Fixes for Apple's Foxconn Problem

    Even with a formal statement from CEO Tim Cook, its own internal inspections and now an independent audit by the Fair Labor Association, Apple can't appease critics of the working conditions at Foxconn where it manufactures its iProducts. Apple's latest effort  sounds promising enough: the gadget company has enlisted an organization founded by anti-sweat shop groups hoping to improve overseas abuses. But, to some, it looks like more of a PR play than action. "The Fair Labor Association is largely a fig leaf," Jeff Ballinger, director of Press for Change, a labor rights group told The New York Times's Steven Greenhouse. And Stinebrickner-Kauffman of SumOfUs.org called it a "decent step at best" and a "whitewashing campaign at worst." The company can't really take any steps at this point, short of making its stuff stateside, that will fix its Foxconn problems because this isn't the type of problem with quick fixes.

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    Any move Apple makes will look like less-than-genuine public relations disaster control at this point. In part, because that's what Apple is doing. Its monster profits in context of Foxconn's low wages and bad working conditions made the company look like even more of a monster. So Apple publicly acknowledged the scandal, made its factory inspections public and just yesterday put out a very visible press release for this new FLA effort. It wants America to know it's trying, which can come off as nothing more than a gesture. 

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    But even if it's not a gesture, Apple has an issue: Its moves can only look empty. This Foxconn situation -- and not just Apple's reputation -- isn't so fixable. Before this round of Foxconn-gate, Apple had tried dealing with it, sanctioning no-suicide pacts, new 24-hour psychological services and suicide nets. Six months later, the working conditions still don't meet American approval. Even if this fresh round of audits finds some kind of awful in there, what happens after that? "Audits are truly a tool used by retailers in the US to make themselves seem to be socially compliant, but in fact does nothing to ensure factories are acting appropriately," Sindy Sagastume, production manager for a fashion company called Aimee Lynn told Gadget Lab's Christina Bonnington. 

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    And even if Apple discovers some atrocities, as we learned from The New York Times Foxconn report, making iGadgets requires the type of labor force willing to put up with said conditions. "You can either manufacture in comfortable, worker-friendly factories, or you can reinvent the product every year, and make it better and faster and cheaper, which requires factories that seem harsh by American standards," an Apple executive told the Times. If not Foxconn, somewhere else. 

     

    16 comments

    • SCOTT  •  Santa Cruz, California  •  3 mths ago
      How about with all of the profits that Apple has reaped over the past couple years, they should move operations to the US. Give the american people a chance to proved that we can manufacture goods also.
      • C 3 mths ago
        Give the American people a chance to jump off the building during lunch.
    • MrMister  •  3 mths ago
      So here is the truth. Apple has well over $ 100,000,000,000 in cash. ( Yes - that is with a "B" - as in one hundred BILLION dollars. You would think that at the very least they would pay their foreign oppressed slave labor force enough so they don't jump off the building on their lunch break. Especially since the $ 100 billion came from the slaves efforts.
      • Sifu Jian 3 mths ago
        Made in America that's what I want to see and nothing less!!!!!
      • Donald 3 mths ago
        Actually, to be correct, Apple has 9.8 Billion in cash. The rest is in securities that can easily be turned into cash and most (about 68 Billion) resides overseas. No one would disagree that its a lot of money and could be put to good use. However, the employees at Foxconn do not work for Apple. Should Apple agree to pay Foxconn more for their products, what guarantee is there that the money would be passed on to employees, especially with a Taiwanese company operating in China? Likely most of it would end up in the pockets of Foxconn management in Taiwan and Chinese government officials paid to look the other way. And Apple is not the only company in this pickle. Virtually all high tech companies use Foxconn or companies like them and, unlike Apple, almost none have come forward. Instead they're more than happy to hide while Apple takes the flack. Worker abuse is a huge problem and exists even in the U.S. (clothing sweatshops abusing illegal workers persist despite our laws). Governments need to take action and enforce the laws they have (even China has working rules that are similar to the U.S. but aren't enforced, including bans on child labor and working hours). Could Apple do more? Sure. But one company can't make much of a dent in the world-wide abuse of workers, even one as large as Apple, unless governments aggressively act.
      • Donald 3 mths ago
        A wonderful wish but unrealistic. What percent of the things you own were made in the U.S.? Your car? TV? Clothing? household goods? It would be wonderful if we could bring jobs back but the world has changed. Even China is facing job losses to Viet Nam, Bangladesh and elsewhere.
    • Philip  •  Santa Clara, California  •  3 mths ago
      All those propeller head Microsoft nerds will sign any online petition but did show up for the protests at the Apple stores on Monday.No just four showed up ,where are the other 199,996 others? all about nothing.
    • SamC  •  3 mths ago
      It all comes down to the greedy #$%$ at the top, who refuse to give up some profits so employees may have better working conditions. With the amount of cheap labor Apple is using, the iPad should cost no more than $250, and I bet they would still make a good profit.The shareholders control this move. They want to see big profits at any expense. In fact, they are probably the same people who invested in the banks who had a hand in the sub-prime fiasco.
    • Sifu Jian  •  Santa Clara, California  •  3 mths ago
      How about moving the entire supply chain, every single component to the United States! Is Apple an American company or a Chinese Company!!!!!! Apple = Chinese computer. I love my apple computer but I HATE that it was made in China. How about support the country that made Apple the most valuable company!!!
      • Steve 3 mths ago
        If this were the case, your Apple computer or iPad, iPhone, etc., would cost 3 times as much. Are you willing to pay that?
    • Michael  •  3 mths ago
      Move the plants back to the United States. Of course, Steve Jobs would turn over in his grave.
    • James Dogue  •  3 mths ago
      From a company that has made its name on catering to the aristocracy and its sycophant subclasses? Lol, they'll never get me to believe their hollow apologetic.
    • SMIBs Rule  •  3 mths ago
      So Apples people with a straight face said their efforts to fix the problem was to ento into suicide prevention pacts, and get more netes to prevent suicide. Then they say with the same straight face that this type of work requires harsh conditions? Where is the public outrage. Forget this company and its products. They are stealing workers lives and they are only concerned with profits. Their profits are evil and sinful and would be significantly less if they treated humans less like livestock. And where is it written APPLE CORPORATION that you have to make such large profit margins at the expense and destruction of human lives. This is not ancient civilization. The human race is becoming enlightened and educated and are waking up to this and are begining to say no more. APPLE CORPORATION sounds similar to coacaine cartels who put profits above human misery. The difference being ones destroys its consumer base while the other destroys its employee base. It is not written anywhere APPLE CORPORATION that you have to operate this way. Steve Job always wanted to change the world so now APPLE CORPORATION you shall do just that. The old capitalist ideals are out dated and obsolete. Time to spread around APPLES PROFITS among its employees. Employees are all those employees whether direct apple employees or subcontracted by apple to make apple parts or products. Less to executives and more to its regular employees. Leaders are being overthrown and governments violently replaced. This can happen to corporations make no mistake about it. DO NOT BUY ANY MORE APPLE PRODUCTS until they fix all the problems right now. Do not accept Apple saying it needs years to fix this! You want to fix America and wrangle her back from the destructive grip corporations hold over us then here is a good place to start. CHANGE LIVES APPLE BY CHANGING THE LIVES OF YOUR EMPLOYEES!
      • just me 3 mths ago
        Don't blame capitalism, blame NAFTA, Free Trade and all of our regulations. Until these were enacted we did manufacture here, even at a higher cost.
    • C  •  Hallowell, Maine  •  3 mths ago
      It's an American device.

      "... an Apple executive told the Times. If not Foxconn, somewhere else. "

      What does that tell you?
      • Jon Lucente 3 mths ago
        It tells you the Apple exec is full of crap. Foxconn could triple its workers wages tomorrow and they would still be profitable and Apple would still be profitable.
    • chuck r  •  3 mths ago
      Of course there are no easy fixes. That would require an entire cultural change at the top, one that minimized the control that numbers people have over executive decisions while promoting those who emphasize people. Considering Apple's history of presenting itself as the icon of humanism as opposed to the cold sterility of Microsoft and Intel it is sad to see that they are nothing different in the end.
    • Kel  •  Chicago, Illinois  •  3 mths ago
      There Are No Quick Fixes? No? Apple try the following: higher pay, better working conditions, and company health. See if any one of those things solve the problem.
    • William S  •  Las Vegas, Nevada  •  3 mths ago
      Apple ,like there products, are a fraud!
    • Alex  •  3 mths ago
      So according to the #$%$ Apple exec's twisted set of values, near slavery is a necessary evil. He may be in the top 1% in terms of material wealth but definitely the bottom 1% filth when it comes to human decency.
    • SamC  •  3 mths ago
      Greed - plain and simple. We looked the other way when we were on top of the world, but the greed has come back to bite us, because it's found other places to make more money.
    • Shoreline View  •  Seymour, Indiana  •  3 mths ago
      The fact is that if Apple were willing to settle for a 40 percent profit margin as opposed to a 50 percent one, they could make it anywhere in the United States they wanted -- subject to being able to find employees with the right skills. And if we had better worker training in this country, they could probably produce here at the same profit margin as they do in China. It's not about the profit or the free market, it's about our leaders showing the political will to put the stuffing back in our economy.
    • yamon  •  3 mths ago
      Steve JOBS. LOL, does anyone else find it extremely ironic that his last name was jobs? Which his legacy will be, in order to best his foe Bill Gates, who had opened up the, ready for a little more irony-- flood gates for American business to operate in China in unethical manners, is this Foxconn thing, the outsourcing. If Apple would have made a game changer and manufactured in the U.S. I believe it would be an utter positive for them in the long run, but here we are, stuck with no choice really. If a company would manufacture in the U.S. I personally would prefer that product and I'd pay more for it.
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