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    Obama announces debt plan built on taxes on rich

    WASHINGTON (AP) — In a blunt rejoinder to congressional Republicans, President Barack Obama called for $1.5 trillion in new taxes Monday, part of a total 10-year deficit reduction package totaling more than $3 trillion. He vowed to veto any deficit reduction package that cuts benefits to Medicare recipients but does not raise taxes on the wealthy and big corporations.

    "We can't just cut our way out of this hole," the president said.

    The president's proposal would predominantly hit upper income taxpayers but would also reduce spending in mandatory benefit programs, including Medicare and Medicaid, by $580 billion. It also counts savings of $1 trillion over 10 years from the withdrawal of troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The deficit reduction plan represents an economic bookend to the $447 billion in tax cuts and new public works spending that Obama has proposed as a short-term measure to stimulate the economy and create jobs. And it gives the president a voice in a process that will be dominated by a joint congressional committee charged with recommending deficit reductions of up to $1.5 trillion.

    His plan served as a sharp counterpoint to Republican lawmakers, who have insisted that tax increases should play no part in taming the nation's escalating national debt. Obama's plan would end Bush-era tax cuts for top earners and would limit their deductions.

    "It's only right we ask everyone to pay their fair share," Obama said from the Rose Garden at the White House.

    In issuing his threat to veto any Medicare benefits that aren't paired with tax increases on upper-income people, Obama said: "I will not support any plan that puts all the burden for closing our deficit on ordinary Americans."

    Responding to a complaint from Republicans about his proposed tax on the wealthy, Obama added: "This is not class warfare. It's math."

    The Republican reaction was swift and derisive.

    "Veto threats, a massive tax hike, phantom savings, and punting on entitlement reform is not a recipe for economic or job growth_or even meaningful deficit reduction," Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell said in a statement issued minutes after the president's announcement. "The good news is that the Joint Committee is taking this issue far more seriously than the White House."

    Obama's proposal comes amid Democratic demands that Obama take a tougher stance against Republicans. And while the plan stands little chance of passing Congress, its populist pitch is one that the White House believes the public can support.

    The core of the president's plan totals just over $2 trillion in deficit reduction over 10 years. It would let Bush-era tax cuts for upper income earners expire, limit deductions for wealthier filers and close loopholes and end some corporate tax breaks. It also would cut $580 billion from mandatory programs, including $248 billion from Medicare. It also targets subsidies to farmers and benefits programs for federal employees.

    Officials cast Obama's plan as his vision for deficit reduction, and distinguished it from the negotiations he had with House Speaker John Boehner in July as Obama sought to avoid a government default.

    As a result, Obama's proposal includes no changes in Social Security and no increase in the Medicare eligibility age, which the president had been willing to accept this summer.

    Administration officials also said that Obama's $1.5 trillion in new taxes is a goal that Congress could achieve through a broad overhaul of the tax code. They said the president's specific proposals represent one way to get to that goal under the existing tax code.

    Coupled with about $1 trillion in cuts already approved by Congress and signed by the president, overall deficit reduction would total more than $4 trillion, a number many economists cite as a minimum threshold to bring the nation's debt under control.

    Key features of Obama's plan:

    —$1.5 trillion in new revenue, which would include about $800 billion realized over 10 years from repealing the Bush-era tax rates for couples making more than $250,000. It also would place limits on deductions for wealthy filers and end certain corporate loopholes and subsidies for oil and gas companies.

    —$580 billion in cuts in mandatory benefit programs, including $248 billion in Medicare and $72 billion in Medicaid and other health programs. Other mandatory benefit programs include farm subsidies and federal employee benefits. Administration officials said 90 percent of the $248 billion in 10-year Medicare cuts would be squeezed from service providers. The plan does shift some additional costs to beneficiaries, but those changes would not start until 2017.

    —$430 billion in savings from lower interest payment on the national debt.

    — $1 trillion in savings from drawing down military forces from Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Republicans have ridiculed the war savings as gimmicky, but House Republicans included them in their budget proposal this year and Boehner had agreed to count them as savings during debt ceiling negotiations with the president this summer.

    Illustrating Obama's populist pitch on tax revenue, he suggested that Congress establish a minimum tax on taxpayers making $1 million or more in income. The measure — the White House calls it the "Buffett Rule" for billionaire investor Warren Buffett — is designed to prevent millionaires from taking advantage of lower tax rates on investment earnings than what middle-income taxpayers pay on their wages.

    That minimum rate, however, is not included in the White House revenue projections. Officials said it was a suggestion for Congress if it were to undertake an overhaul of the tax code.

    .At issue is the difference between a taxpayer's tax bracket and the effective tax rate that taxpayer pays. Millionaires face a 35 percent tax bracket, while middle income filers fall in the 15 or 25 percent bracket. But investment income is taxed at 15 percent and Buffett has complained that he and other wealthy people have been "coddled long enough" and shouldn't be paying a smaller share of their income in federal taxes than middle-class taxpayers.

     

    4,940 comments

    • Capt  •  8 mths ago
      How many workers in the federal government? Anyone know?
      • Bender 8 mths ago
        10, 314 'workers', out of tens of millions of paycheck collectors...
      • AaronA 8 mths ago
        they have the internet on computers you know :)
      • Voce 8 mths ago
        Too d@#n many!
    • GeorgeS  •  8 mths ago
      What we need is a tax form for the rich that promotes smart, sustainable investments, promotes jobs, infrastructure and eliminates bubbles.
    • The Eagle  •  8 mths ago
      FACT
      5,400 Congressional staffers are now lobbyists. DC needs to be cleansed! Corruption at its highest.
      • ARIZONA 8 mths ago
        i think this country should crash to the bottom and start over thats the only way it will be cleaned up every law every goverment employee wiped out and then we will change.
      • Nonya 8 mths ago
        Eagle you can Twitter your opinions to the White House and Obamas twitter account... I think you have a great point
      • Lloyd 8 mths ago
        Let's also mention the resent supreme court ruling. The one where corporations are people and money have rights. That's where the republican super PACs are being formed. That's where the're all going to end up, in the super PACs.
    • Ken T  •  8 mths ago
      Take away retirement pensions and free life long health care from Senate and Congressional members.
      • Kathy 8 mths ago
        a big AMEN!! They can threaten my SS and the pay of the people who are defending American, Send them all to whatever war we are fighting for a tour. That should get their attention.
      • Rodney 8 mths ago
        Not to mention a 25% decrease in pay.
      • Cindy 8 mths ago
        Make them participate in SS/Medicare along with the rest of the American people - no special life-long pensions for serving 4 years and no career politicians.
    • Loren  •  8 mths ago
      stop all lifetime benefits to politicians. let them continue with benefits for only 1/2 the time they served public office. all benefits should be taken from those politicians who have been proved to abuse their power in office (weiner) if i get fired, i lose my benefits or pay to continue them. oblahblah says that every american should pay their fair share in taxes to help get us out of this problem....STOP SPENDING MONEY!!!!!! #$%$ instead of spending my monies on rebuilding middle eastern countries spend my monies on me! rebuild this country. it's not getting better or easier......it's getting worse!!!! i'm a year from 60, i'll be wearing my tool bags till i drop dead.............thanks oblahblah and the rest of your money sucking politicians both democraps and republicasses. oh yeah, living week to week sucks you assholes in wanhsington should try it sometime God knows you have made us all live this way. my only wish...........save this country, bring it back to what it wasbring manufacturing back to this country and minimize the bogus liablilty lawsuits and regulations that have chased away manufacturers. by the way....i asked this before, what country is making our militarys uniforms? seems to me just that alone would put several thousand americans back to work instead of several thousand chinese!!!!!!!!!!!!
      • Steve 8 mths ago
        Loren, I wish I could give you a thousand thumbs up. If they stopped spending, we could keep some of our own money. I am one year from 50 and I have nothing saved for retirement because what I had saved is gone from the busted economy and the taxes I have to pay to keep our government spending at it's current level means I have to choose to keep my house that I am now 60K up-side down in or pay my taxes. I too am one paycheck from humility and like you, I don't feel that anyone in politics even cares. I write letter after letter to my congressman, the president and senators and hear nothing. This has got to stop and it seems like the people are powerless to do anything to make the stop possible. this president and all that serve him of any party are nothing more then criminals. I wish only to have all the people that feel the same way you and I do to rise up and make the changes, no matter how painful.
      • Cantankerous Intellect 8 mths ago
        Loren, if you are nearly 60 years old and you are still living paycheck to paycheck, you cannot blame Obama. I don't know what situation put you where you are and I am not passing judgment, just saying it is unfair to blame Obama that 40+ years after you entered the workforce you are still barely scraping by.
      • Glen G 8 mths ago
        Dave`s not home
    • Charles  •  8 mths ago
      I say, tax GE.
      • John 8 mths ago
        can't do that , thats Obama's buddy
      • G 8 mths ago
        Tax Apple.

        Worth more than the biggest of big oils, and a profit margin that'd make a loan shark blush. All with products made in China.
      • JL 8 mths ago
        From day 1 I've been told that we don't have a flat tax because a flat tax disproportionately hurts the poor. I've been told that we live in a country in which the more you make, the more you pay. I knew the ultra-rich were able to take advantage of a lot of tax laws. But until Warren Buffett told evereyone his tax rate last year was 17%, I didn't know how much garbage I've been fed. I'd rather us go with a spend-based tax like some version of the Fair Tax, and I've done more than my fair share of hatin' on Obama, but to hear Republicans disagree and say that the ultramillionaires should pay LESS of a percentage than the middle class and call this proposal class warfare is just completely assinine and goes against the very principle of progressive taxation. To leave it the way it is, is class warfare. That's why I don't vote republican or democrat anymore - both parties SUCK.
    • Tara  •  8 mths ago
      Then why don't you make GE pay taxes, Obama?
    • Natalie  •  8 mths ago
      Biggest issue in our federal tax code: it's not an apples to apples comparison. $250K a year in TN where there is no state income tax, no annual car tax, and property taxes that are a joke, is not the same as $250K in New Jersey with property taxes higher than most Americans' mortgages, separate school taxes by district, car taxes, state income tax and more. $250K is a relative number....and with inflation (and wages not keeping up with inflation) a lower and lower number every year.....
    • Right On  •  8 mths ago
      This man is one huge sicko............
    • Bill  •  8 mths ago
      Regardless of the loud minority on Yahoo comments boards, the silent MAJORITY will have its say come November of next year....and that's what counts.
    • starnw50  •  8 mths ago
      "we can't cut our way out of this hole"..... Put down the shovel, idiot.
    • WaltS  •  8 mths ago
      Why are they not starting at the top, Congress and the white house, salary, benifits, etc. Seems like they want us to pay while they play.
    • J H  •  8 mths ago
      Can someone define "rich," and then look out how the "rich" make their living? I imagine it has something to do with self-sacrifice and extended education.
    • Rockdog  •  8 mths ago
      I'd be more willing to support the tax hike if the 50% who don't pay any taxes are asked to step up to the plate too.
    • Gregory  •  8 mths ago
      Obama, please define what "fair share" means, I really want to understand. You use this when ever you talk about taxing the millionaires and billionaires, but have not clearly defined its meaning to us common folk. Is it because you are using this rhetoric to incite class warfare? What is it...15%, 20%, 50%? Who decides what is ultimately "fair". Should we all pay a flat tax, would this be "fair" for everyone?
    • Chris  •  8 mths ago
      Fair tax across the board.
    • George Mason  •  8 mths ago
      Dirty little secret about Warren Buffett and Obama wanting to tax the rich. Warren Buffett runs Berkshire Hathaway which yesterday sold on the Dow Jones for "Last Trade: 104,308.00." The funny part, Buffett can't even buy a share even though his net wealth is over 32 billion. You see, Warren and CEO and Chairman only pays himself $100,000 a year. The rest of his wealth is in Berkshire Hathaway as unrealized capital gains and can't be taxed. His home was bought in the 1950 and was paid off 20 years ago. Lastly, as CEO the company pays for his "travel" on company business and where Buffett goes is where Berkshire Hathaway goes. Now even I could get by on $100,000 with no house payment, no travel expenses, and everything else provided by my company. Good luck taxing this man.
    • Matthew D  •  8 mths ago
      Once they get all they can from the rich who do you think they will come after next?
    • gregory  •  8 mths ago
      This upcoming election, ( if there's still a USA ) is showing some disturbing tangled webs, Union favoritism, Solyndra, Fast N' Furious and Lightsquare. The obvious intervention on the NLRB, EPA, FCC's part. The resurrection of ACORN. This is a very easy choice, America.
    • yankee123  •  8 mths ago
      Did he close that GE tax loophole or is he saving it for another time?
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