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    Obama says gay couples deserve same rights as all

    NEW YORK (AP) — While praising New York state lawmakers as they debated legalizing gay marriage, President Barack Obama stopped short of embracing it. Instead he asked gay and lesbian donors for patience.

    "I believe that gay couples deserve the same legal rights as every other couple in this country," the president said at a Manhattan fundraiser, his first geared specifically to the gay community. Thursday's long-planned event coincidentally occurred as lawmakers in Albany were debating legislation that would make New York the sixth and by far the largest state to legalize gay marriage.

    That served to spotlight the president's own views on same-sex marriage, a sore point with gay supporters who've otherwise warmed to Obama. The president has said his views are "evolving," but for now he supports civil unions, not same-sex marriage.

    Obama said progress will be slower than some people want, but he added that he was confident that there will be a day "when every single American, gay or straight or lesbian or bisexual or transgender, is free to live and love as they see fit.

    "Traditionally marriage has been decided by the states and right now I understand there's a little debate going on here in New York," he said to laughter. New York's lawmakers, he said, are "doing exactly what democracies are supposed to do."

    The state Senate ended its session late Thursday in Albany without voting on the bill and planned to take it up again on Friday.

    As Obama spoke a handful of people shouted out "marriage!" And Obama said, "I heard you guys." He never directly mentioned gay marriage.

    Obama said there were those who shouted at him at events about other causes of the gay community, such as the need for anti-hate crimes legislation and for the repeal of the "don't ask, don't tell" ban on openly gay military service, and both of those have since been achieved.

    Obama also has won favor by instructing the Justice Department to stop defending in court a law defining marriage as between a man and a woman.

    Obama told of receiving a letter last year from a teenager in a small town. He said the boy was a senior in high school who was gay and was afraid to come out. The boy wondered to the president why gays shouldn't be equal like everyone else.

    "So, yes, we have more work to do," Obama said. "Yes, we have more progress to make. Yes, I expect continued impatience with me on occasion."

    He said teenagers such as the one who wrote to him "remind me that there should be impatience when it comes to the fight for basic equality. We've made enormous advances just in these last two and half years. But there's still young people out there looking for us to do more."

    In a direct appeal for votes, Obama said: "With your help, if you keep up the fight, if you will devote your time and your energies to this campaign one more time, I promise you we will write another chapter in that story. ... I'll be standing there, right there with you."

    Overall the reaction Obama got was warm from the crowd of nearly 600 who paid up to $35,800 each to hear him speak at a midtown hotel. And only a small group of protesters showed up to demonstrate outside for marriage equality. It was a measure of how much the gay community has warmed to Obama since earlier in his administration when donors threatened to boycott Democratic fundraisers to pressure Obama on "don't ask, don't tell."

    If Obama were to endorse gay marriage, it would give a jolt of enthusiasm to his liberal base and perhaps unlock additional fundraising dollars from the well-heeled gay community. It's not clear it would get him too many additional votes in 2012 though, because the Republican field's general opposition to gay rights gives activists no alternative to Obama.

    At the same time, supporting gay marriage could alienate some religious voters that the politically cautious White House might still hope to win over for Obama's re-election campaign.

    Obama has indicated support in the past for states allowing gay people to marry. As a presidential candidate, he went so far as to congratulate gay couples in California who married during the short period when gay marriage was legal in that state before voters shut it down.

    The president also signed a questionnaire in 1996 as a candidate for Illinois state Senate saying he supported gay marriage, something the White House hasn't fully explained.

    Even as the president deliberates, public sentiment is marching decisively in the direction of supporting gay marriage. Depending on the poll, people are now about evenly split or narrowly in favor.

    "There's been a noticeable shift the last couple of years," said Carroll Doherty, associate director of the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press. In March, the center found that 45 percent of those surveyed favored gay marriage and 46 percent opposed it. That was the first time that the survey found an essentially even split instead of majority opposition.

    It's something the president has noted, telling liberal bloggers in October that "it's pretty clear where the trend lines are going."

    The question is when, how and if the president goes there too.

    ___

    Werner reported from Washington. Associated Press writer Karen Zraick contributed to this report.

     

    1,169 comments

    • mwusa  •  10 mths ago
      gays have enough rights , marriage shouldn't be one .how about if they k. their mouth shot and all of us will be happy.nobody cares what they do in their darkness as long as they don't bring it up
      • Tina 10 mths ago
        your right... no one cares
        in fact no one cares about your vote
        have you ever thought about that??
        on this earth theres someone cares
        people cares about gays
        people care random stuff
        some cares for you, me, and everyone on earth
        why is it so bad to fight for gays??!!
      • Monica 10 mths ago
        You cared enough to comment didnt you......? If they want to go through the headache of marriage, LET THEM!!
    • Richard  •  10 mths ago
      Ok, he's bringing the troops home, releasing oil from federal oil reserves. I'm waiting for him to come out of the closet to get the gay vote.
      • yahooblows 10 mths ago
        Can you say Larry Sinclair...?
      • WakeUpAmerica 10 mths ago
        He's bringing 10,000 troops home by election time, I call that pandering and a betrayal to our troops on the ground worldwide!
      • Leah 10 mths ago
        Send over 65,000, bring back 10,000. I'm not impressed.
    • LINNIA  •  10 mths ago
      That person holding up the sign saying "Stop funding Obama's bigotry" is attacking the president of the USA and expecting to get what he wants from the person he is attacking. That doesn't seem to be the best way to seek help from the president.
      • Crash 10 mths ago
        Markee- Umm, what color is the sky, in your world? Aside, ... were you, by any chance, homeschooled?
    • Grandam  •  10 mths ago
      Wrong !!!!!!! Our world is screwed up enough already, now the President is sanctioning Gays, they will never be equal in anything but a hot Hell !
      • Karen 10 mths ago
        I refer you to Matthew 7:1, and I am not gay. Shame on you!!!
      • Gary 10 mths ago
        See you in hell, REDNECK!
      • Grandam 10 mths ago
        The bible also says man shall not lie with man and woman shall not lie with woman if they dont ask for forgiveness its an abomination and they will go to hell, no I am not judgeing, I believe hate the sin not the sinner and its wrong, God mankind in his own image, hes perfect and did not make these wrongs, its a choice lifestyle, no one is born this away !!
    • Daddio  •  10 mths ago
      The president has said his views are "evolving," (depending on who he is speaking to, of course)
      • jason 10 mths ago
        they evolve for where he is speaking and who he is speaking to.
      • Joe 10 mths ago
        Jason, every politician tells every group what they want to hear. That includes all the Presidents..
      • D de Rothschild 10 mths ago
        That's what you get with a democracy. Some charlatan coercing constituents for votes, and a mass of ignorant fools who take their word in the name of more bread and circuses.

        The only answer is a genocide against the faithful flock and their shepherds.
    • ken  •  10 mths ago
      Looking forward to next Nov's elections.
    • who are you  •  10 mths ago
      Every deserves equal rights....not special rights.
    • jqcVoter  •  10 mths ago
      Obama has said he's against gay marriage. Now Obama is looking for votes.
    • jackh  •  10 mths ago
      But what about Singles! Single people are just as good citizens and are just as productive as married but get cheated on taxes and employee benefits. They get screwed but without the sex.
    • jackh  •  10 mths ago
      The president is an expert at using "carefully worded evasive phraseology".
    • j8vm2  •  10 mths ago
      Campaigning again..................or should I say still!
    • jason  •  10 mths ago
      obama is in full campaign mode
    • Fred  •  10 mths ago
      Well, the president will say anything right now. It is election time.
    • Frank  •  10 mths ago
      What a joke!
    • Adam  •  10 mths ago
      He's campaigning again... Changing his views cause he's lost half of his base!
    • Singularity  •  10 mths ago
      Whether he wins or loses, in 2013 he won't care at all.
    • Jack  •  10 mths ago
      If you are gay, he's ONLY after your vote! Has he done anything for you yet?
    • TNT  •  10 mths ago
      Headline should read "Obammer courting gays for 2012 Votes!"
      talk about jumping back and over the fence..
    • Injun Joe  •  10 mths ago
      Just ask Larry Sinclair !!!!
    • David Norsworthy  •  10 mths ago
      Freedom to engage in licentious activity does not entitle one to the right of a state sanction.
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