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    Obama uses tax proposals for his political message

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Aiming tax increases at millionaires and companies that ship jobs abroad may help frame the fairness theme of President Barack Obama's re-election campaign, but it's a plan that stands virtually no chance of passing Congress.

    Republicans have enough votes in the GOP-run House, and almost certainly in the Democratic-controlled Senate, to kill Obama's proposals. They say his ideas would discourage investment and job creation and further hurt an already ailing economy.

    "He's got to know that none of those things he proposed really have much of a chance of going through both houses of Congress," said Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, top Republican on the Senate Finance Committee.

    "I don't think he's intending on passing any laws this year," said House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis. "He's in a campaign. That was his re-election speech."

    The GOP's dismissiveness hardly matters to Obama and his Democratic allies.

    After last year's hyper-partisanship bogged down routine business like financing the government and paying its debts, few expect much to move through Congress before November's election anyway — especially not tax hikes that Republicans solidly reject.

    "Even if there is little prospect of getting Republicans to agree with these proposals, they're important reference points for the public in identifying Obama as someone who's on their side," said Democratic pollster Geoffrey Garin.

    Obama offered his plans, with scant detail, in Tuesday's State of the Union address. He used the word "fair" seven times to describe tax increases aimed at groups the Occupy movement has branded as the "one percent" of Americans who are doing extremely well while the rest of society struggles.

    The president proposed ending tax breaks for U.S. companies moving jobs or profits to foreign countries and creating a minimum tax on their overseas profits. He also suggested new tax breaks for businesses that move jobs back to the U.S., for domestic manufacturing and for companies that invest in towns that have suffered major job losses.

    Getting most attention was his plan to tax incomes above $1 million annually at a rate of at least 30 percent. That's a sharp and convenient contrast with the 15 percent tax rate enjoyed by former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a leading contender for the Republican presidential nomination, who earned about $21 million each of the past two years.

    The proposals quickly became fodder for the GOP presidential contenders. Romney said the next day on CNBC's "Kudlow Report" that Obama's plan was "designed to come at me if I'm the nominee," and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said during last Thursday's presidential debate, "His proposal on taxes would make the economy worse."

    Democrats immediately made clear that there will be Senate votes this year on the subject.

    New York Sen. Charles Schumer, part of the Senate Democratic leadership, said he was relishing a push on "some kind of Romney rule, I mean Buffett rule." Obama has embraced a Buffett rule, named for billionaire Warren Buffett, who has cited the inequity of laws that let him pay a lower tax rate than his secretary.

    On Monday, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., said he would introduce legislation this week requiring anyone earning over $1 million to pay at least 30 percent of their income in federal income taxes. It would do so by requiring people earning over $1 million to multiply their income by 30 percent and pay at least that amount in taxes, or more if their computations showed their tax liability was greater. He said he has two Senate co-sponsors so far but none in the House.

    Such proposals, along with any efforts to deny tax breaks to U.S. companies that outsource jobs and profits, would never get the 60 votes they would need to prevail in the Senate this year, let alone win approval from the GOP-run House.

    "If the president has proposals that will help create jobs, we'll take a look," said Michael Steel, spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio. "But tax hikes on small businesses will make it even harder for them to invest and grow."

    Republicans say boosting taxes on millionaires would hurt many of the people who run small businesses and create jobs, a claim Democrats call exaggerated. The GOP and business groups also marshal their own fairness argument, calling it unjust and impractical to raise taxes on companies that set up operations overseas.

    "They locate their facilities to be close to the customer," said Dorothy Coleman, vice president for tax policy for the National Association of Manufacturers. "That's a big concern for us, targeting multinational companies as if there is something wrong with doing business overseas."

    Democrats challenge that argument as well, saying many pharmaceutical and high technology companies that set up shop abroad are drawn by lower labor costs and taxes and still sell the bulk of their products in the U.S.

    Those disputes underscore a political climate so difficult that neither the House nor Senate seem likely to even try advancing pre-election legislation that each party calls their top tax priority: overhauling and simplifying the tax code.

    Even so, Obama's tax proposals can also be read as an opening gambit in what looms as a titanic partisan struggle to be waged after the November elections, perhaps in a lame duck session of Congress in December.

    Next January, broad tax cuts will expire that were enacted under President George W. Bush in 2001 and 2003 and were temporarily renewed by Obama and Congress in 2010. At the same time, $1.2 trillion in automatic spending cuts will kick in unless lawmakers vote otherwise.

    Congress will also need to renew the government's authority to borrow money. And action will be needed on a package of expiring smaller tax cuts, mostly for businesses, and on preventing the alternative minimum tax, originally aimed at the wealthy, from trapping middle- and upper-middle-income families as well.

     
    • TR  •  Warren, Ohio  •  3 mths ago
      Yes, the wealthy (top 1%) pay about 38% of the tax burden, but they also own over 40% of the financial wealth overall. Prior to the 1980's the wealthiest paid over 70% in taxes (sometimes over 90%)! Was America a Socialist/Communist country until then? Why did everyone still want to come here if they felt they were penalized for success? We are either in a society or we are not- that means we all contribute what we can. Simple fact is, the US is in trouble and if we weren't, it wouldn't even be an issue. I feel 70-90% is absurd (and unfair)! However, that's NOT what Obama or anyone else is suggesting- even though it worked for our country for many years. Some can afford to pay more without any hardship whatsoever (those who have benefitted most from the U.S. economy), some are less fortunate. I personally would feel bad taking a few bucks per week out of a senior citizens paycheck, or some college student's minimum wage earnings, or food from a struggling family's table just so the wealthiest and most fortunate among us get to keep all of the TEMPORARY TAX BREAKS they've been given over the last decade.....Many poor people work also, and sometimes much harder than the rich.
      • James 3 mths ago
        What they pay into it is a moot point and a standard political distraction. As what they pay in a percentage of what they make is way lower then what the ave middle class American pays . this is the problem. Why are they privileged and allowed to pay less taxes on the money they earn (no matter HOW it's earned) then I do? What makes them special?
        This is like the oil companies talking about how they make pennies on the gallon in the gas market! They tell you a profit margin. Not what they earn! Which is in the billions!
        All should be taxed the same. No matter where their income comes from! Why does it matter I have a small business to make my money. but pay more because their money comes from stocks and bonds? it's not right!
      • South 3 mths ago
        TR, you are confusing a few numbers. The top 1% pay about 38% of federal income taxes. They do not own over 40% of the wealth, it's actually about 37%. Additionally, there is a difference between income and wealth, so comparing income tax percentages to overall wealth is like comparing apples to oranges. As for the 1980s, the tax rates were significantly reduced and the tax code was generally simplified, at least for a time. Previously, while those very high tax rates were in effect, there were also very significant tax breaks in effect, so they weren't actually paying 70-90% as you claimed.
      • R.D. H 3 mths ago
        No one paid those rates. Gee its like history is hard or something. Look into why we have the AMT and when it came about.
    • senior  •  Chicago, Illinois  •  3 mths ago
      So here is the tax break they get for closing a plant in t he US.

      "Deductions for business costs. Some Democrats are steamed that businesses closing U.S. operations can deduct the closing costs as standard business expenses. "The law, right now, permits companies that close down American factories and offices and move those jobs overseas to take a tax deduction for the costs associated with moving the jobs to China or India or wherever," said Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., last year"

      PolitiFact Rhode Island delved into Whitehouse's statement in some detail and ruled his statement True.
      • DeMo 3 mths ago
        I agree . . that particular tax break MUST be shut down . . but rather than focus entirely on a one time tax break, shouldn't the government be wondering WHY these companies are moving?
      • B Atkins 3 mths ago
        Why are they moving? Easy answer, 35% Corporate tax rate.
      • A Yahoo! User 3 mths ago
        @ B Atkins: A 35% corporate tax rate that NONE of them pay.
    • Kevin  •  3 mths ago
      If the voters vote for four more years of the same change, they deserve what they get!
      • BR1 3 mths ago
        Remove the Republican obstructionists and maybe we'll finally get ahead.
      • South 3 mths ago
        BR1, who's really obstructing in Congress? The Republicans in the House have passed a plethora of bills with bi-partisan votes, including nearly 30 jobs bills. All of those are sitting on Harry Reid's desk as he is the one who controls the agenda in the Senate. Why don't you tell Harry Reid to stop obstructing any debates, amendments, new Senate versions or any other progress of those bills. Why don't you tell Harry Reid and the other Democrats to stop obstructing on a federal budget?
      • DanP 3 mths ago
        Define "get ahead". You want cap & trade? You want rolling blackouts because environmental idiocy won't allow power production? You want more cronyism with tax dollars to "green energy" companies? To a working man, all we can ask for is availability of jobs and opportunities to advance our careers. D policies don't lead to that, R policies do.
    • Kirara  •  Salt Lake City, Utah  •  3 mths ago
      Pouring more water into a sieve does not make the sieve fill up. I am all for changing the Tax code to make it more fair and understandable, but it is not going to solve our debt problem until we wean the Federal Government off of its spending addiction. Until we do, all of this talk is an exercise in futility because it is just giving the government more money to spend. Trust me; there is no way they are going to use it to pay down debt.
    • Steven  •  3 mths ago
      You might be able to convince me that certain classes of people have more than their fair share of the wealth in this country but how taking it from them and giving it to the government is going to help anyone is beyond me.
      • Susan 3 mths ago
        It will help keep the governemnt up and running and even pay the interest on GB's bills to China.
      • liljimmy 3 mths ago
        no susan. the more they get the more they will spend. and stop trying to blame one man for the problems we have today. shows lack of intelligence
      • John S 3 mths ago
        Steven YOU should be PREZ!
    • Adams  •  Tampa, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      It's so much easier to promise to raise taxes than it is to promise to cut spending.
    • Roland  •  Fort Worth, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      Anyone who takes $4mil vacations should NEVER claim someone else is too rich.
    • RealDemocrat  •  3 mths ago
      So where are those millions of GREEN JOBS Barry promised???
    • @  •  Livonia, Michigan  •  3 mths ago
      Let's first tax the Liberals much, much, much more and see if that will solves our problem.
      • Kevin 3 mths ago
        Even the liberals don't want to pay their taxes. Look at Kerry (moved boat out of state to avoid taxes), Buffet (corporations owe taxes), etc. It is all talk with them.
    • pragmat  •  Phoenix, Arizona  •  3 mths ago
      Business millionaiers do not hire more people because they get to pay lower taxes, they hire because there is an increasing demand for their product or service. It is an insult to business people to presume that they are dumb to waste money hiring people to sit on their #$%$ and wait until there is sufficient increase in demand to be needed. Lower taxes for millionaires do not increase the demand for products or services because their purchasing power is limited by their lack of numbers. If millionaires hired people regardless of demand they would not be millionaires for long, taxes have little or nothing to do with it.
    • Stephen  •  Durham, North Carolina  •  3 mths ago
      Why is the discussion about giving government more money...even if it does come from 'the rich' when is should be about how inept they are at spending the money they already get.
    • Oops! Try again.  •  3 mths ago
      Let's just set the taxes the way they were the last time the economy was doing well, we weren't at war, and the federal government was running a surplus. Sounds like a good idea, right?
    • Non Dimenticar  •  3 mths ago
      Here's an idea: Why doesn't O run on his accomplishments?
    • kirubu  •  3 mths ago
      It's become tough to use the race card, so Obama is going to try class warfare.
      Taxing someone making 1 million a year at a higher rate is a great idea, IF IT IS TIED TO SPENDING CUTS.
    • happy  •  Delray Beach, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      Good idea for Obama to talk about ANYTHING but all his bankrupt "green" companies... Three more just last week have gone under: EVERGREEN ENERGY early last week, ENER 1 (electric cra batteries) late last week, and this morning in Nevada?: AMONIX, a solar panel company which, like the others, received hundreds of millions from this regime.
    • unitedstateoftrash  •  3 mths ago
      Take all the millionaires money, it won't do squat to TRILLIONS. Maybe just make people want to be "$999,999.99aires".
    • DanP  •  Houston, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      People interested in this article need to keep 3 things in mind:
      1) The most fedgov has EVER taken in is $2.7T in 2007 under the conditions created by low taxation, namely full employment.
      2) Keeping #1 in mind, we PLAN to spend $3.6T, - $1T more than we have EVER brought in - annually.
      3) Keeping #2 in mind, we could tax every penny made over $100K at 100% and not close the deficit gap, so please stop acting as though a few percentage points on the evil rich will matter one whit. WE NEED TO DRASTICALLY CUT SPENDING.
    • Dante  •  Tampa, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      I'm no fan of Obama, but I've been saying this over and over again. whoever is able to get the IRS abolished and replace it with the FAIRTAX will be considered the greatest president of all time.
    • Thomas  •  3 mths ago
      First step to fix the tax code.. eliminate ALL tax deductions and credits..
      That would get the tax code down to under 10 pages (it's 60,000 pages, now).
      Then, determine NEW deductions and credits for those that deserve them.
      Everyone else (like Mitt Romney an Warren Buffet) will pay the flat rate.
    • oldmanmax  •  Little Rock, Arkansas  •  3 mths ago
      Didn't his job zar send a major part of his company to china
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