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    The 'ObamaCare' case: Should Elena Kagan and Clarence Thomas sit out?

    The president's signature legislative achievement heads to the Supreme Court, and the Left and Right both accuse justices of conflicts of interest

    As the Supreme Court prepares to decide the fate of President Obama's health care reform law, liberal and conservative groups are complaining about bias on the nation's highest court. On the Right, critics say liberal Justice Elena Kagan should recuse herself because she was "a cheerleader for ObamaCare" in her previous job as Obama's solicitor general. On the Left, proponents of the law say conservative Justice Clarence Thomas should sit this one out because of his wife's involvement with Tea Party groups demanding the law's repeal. Should either of the justices bow out?

    Kagan should sit this one out: The case for Kagan recusing herself from the "ObamaCare" case "would seem to be an open and shut one," says Rick Moran at The American Thinker. When she worked for the Obama administration, she sent an email cheering the news that Democrats had the votes to pass the Affordable Care Act, calling it "simply amazing." But unfortunately, short of a "smoking gun memo" proving that she actually helped craft the administration's legal defense of the law, I expect Kagan to participate in the case next year.
    "Kagan emails show she was 'excited' about ObamaCare passage"

    Thomas is the one on shaky ethical ground here: If there's an "obvious conflict of interest" in this case, says George Zornick at The Nation, it's in the Thomas household. In 2009, Thomas' wife, Virginia, founded a conservative nonprofit dedicated to fighting Obama's "hard-left agenda." Ms. Thomas continues to agitate for the health care law's repeal, and 74 members of Congress have signed a letter asking Thomas to recuse himself from the case. It's hard to say whether Ms. Thomas's politicking is a cause or symptom of her husband's "deep bias and antipathy towards progressive causes" — but it's also hard to argue there's no conflict here.
    "Clarence Thomas vs. legal ethics"

    These complaints are pure politics: "I am generally one of the most pro-recusal scholars you can find," James Sample, a professor at the Hofstra University School of Law, tells The Washington Times, "and yet I think in this instance," those trying to push Kagan and Thomas aside are just "opportunists" seeking a political edge. Thomas' "judicial approach is well known" and unlikely to be swayed by his wife's work. And Kagan's "extraordinarily limited exposure to the health care policy" as solicitor general should be "a nonissue."
    "Health case raises recusal questions for Kagan, Thomas"

    This fight may leave a cloud over the ruling: Everybody can save their breath, because "neither Thomas nor Kagan has given any sign of stepping away from the case," says Tim Louis Macaluso in the Rochester, N.Y., City Paper. The legal standard "to determine a conflict of interest is a bit vague," so both seem free to press on. Still, it would really be a shame if the public senses "even a hint of impropriety in the Supreme Court's decision."
    "Supreme Court hearing on health-reform raises concerns"

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    • Windriver  •  Pto. Limon, Costa Rica  •  6 mths ago
      The role of Solicitor General.
      The solicitor general’s office represents the United States Government in cases before the Supreme Court and supervises the handling of litigation on behalf of the government in all appellate courts.
      When the United States Government is a party, a member of the solicitor general’s office argues on its behalf.

      There is no doubt that the legal issues were discussed prior to its passage.
      • h2o4ever 6 mths ago
        How many times did Kagan appear before the Supreme Court to argue the case? How many times did Kagan handle the litigation on behalf of the govt in any appellate court?

        Your last statement is pure speculation.
      • Thomas M 6 mths ago
        caldude...Do something unique in your posting history and research this. Windriver is right on.
    • Daniel  •  St. Paul, United States  •  6 mths ago
      They are both in the grey, but if they both go or they both stay then they just cancel each other out. In the end it won't matter because the deciding vote on this issue will be Kennedy since the 4 conservatives will align and the 4 liberal will align.
      • DR. NEGA E-99 6 mths ago
        it all take a tie breaker like a vice president to vote......................
    • RF_GURU  •  Euless, United States  •  6 mths ago
      if you can mandate for people to buy healthinsurance then :
      - you can mandate:
      - for people to buy homeowners insurance
      - to buy mortgage insurance
      - to eat vegetables every day
      - to get a flu shot every year
      - to buy a chevy
      - to bank at a certain bank
      - to own a gun
      - to donate money
      - to join the military
      - to adopt homeless pets
      - to buy chinese goods
      - to hire at least 5 employees
      - to eat yogurt
      - to buy a new car every year
    • RF_GURU  •  Euless, United States  •  6 mths ago
      this is NOT about healthcare but about a dangerous precedent which can and will affect EVERY american in the future no matter who is in charge !
      Think about it - IF the government can mandate for people to buy a service then where is the limit ? where are the boundries ?
    • RF_GURU  •  Euless, United States  •  6 mths ago
      its rather easy , 56% of the people in this country are FOR repeal !
      You liberal leftwing nutjobs lose either way - if the mandate gets declared unconstitutional then the whole law collapses, if the SCOTUS goes the other way then this will fuel PLENTY of voter anger and will motivate conservatives and the tea party much more than the passing of the law in 2008, you think you got a whipping in 2010 ? wait until 2012 !!!
    • Thomas M  •  6 mths ago
      The Liberal worked on the Healthcare Act, and the Conservative is married to a woman who actively opposes it, and these two situations deserve to be compared how?????
      • h2o4ever 6 mths ago
        I was ok with Thomas until he purposely hid Ginny's involvement (and salary) in creating that lobbyist group against the law. Funny, he had never failed to disclose her employer and earnings prior. Then the famed jurist claimed he misunderstood the instructions on form he was supposed to fill out. So is he lying or is he just plain incompetent?
      • mimi 6 mths ago
        How did the Liberal "work" on the Affordable Care Act? Writing a memo stating the passage was amazing can't be considered 'work', can it?
      • Windriver 6 mths ago
        Kagen was SOLICITOR GENERAL and that position advised the President on all important legislation.
    • Irene  •  Cicero, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Thomas and Scalia should clearly recuse themselves from the case as both gives the appearance of impropriety with the association with lobbyists, groups, even personal relationships with individuals who support the demise of the Affordable Care Act. Elena Kaga when she was solicitor general went out of her way not to be involved to such an extent with the drafters of the bill to raise red flags about her objectivity when dealing with them. As any blind man can see there is a clear difference between doing your job in a non-judicial position and accepting fees and donations and being married to people who are lobbyists who benefit from a judicial act that would support their cause, such as in the cases of Thomas and Scalia. They have violated more judicial standards and ethics rules that lower level judges are held to than any other members of SCOTUS.
    • Bob  •  6 mths ago
      Ask any bookie on the odds that she would vote against it and you have your answer. Same goes for the other two smart women.Their votes are already in.
      • Universalist 6 mths ago
        ask any bookie on the odds of the right wing vote -
        whats your point
      • Bob 6 mths ago
        Justice no longer wears a blindfold but carries a party card. Maybe decisions should be picked out of a hat. Then both sides have a 50/50 chance.
    • Topkick  •  6 mths ago
      Most Presidents appoint SCOTUS candidates that agree with them on crucial issues, but to recuse Judges solely on this basis is to question the integrity of the Court. And, if we question this, we must question the motivations of all appointees. This way lies ungovernable chaos.
    • frank  •  6 mths ago
      and then the prosecuting atty had a dinner to honor Scalia and 1 other so how is it going to be fair?
    • RF_GURU  •  Euless, United States  •  6 mths ago
      56% thats all you need to know - those are 56% NOT voting democrats in 2012 if the law stands,thats 23% of independent voters NOT voting DEMS because they want repeal !
    • RF_GURU  •  Euless, United States  •  6 mths ago
      on one hand i hope the scotus will let the law stand - because this will be a MAJOR motivation for a carnage at the polls in 2012, you think the dems got whipped in 2010 ? you havent seen nothing yet
    • Pauliepotseed  •  Helena, United States  •  6 mths ago
      5-4 descisions, are always poitical
    • Michael  •  Warren, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Wow! Only three comments regarding, probably one of the most important issues to face the Supreme Court.
    • h2o4ever  •  6 mths ago
      I don't think it matters if they both stay as their rulings are bound to cancel each other out. And it is transparently obvious that both Dems and Repubs are charging the other with "bias" in order to try to get one of the two to sit it out. However, I doubt either will.

      I suspect that the case will come down to 5-4 with Kennedy being the deciding vote. And considering how broadly interpreted the "interstate commerce clause" can be, I suspect that the decision will be in favor of the law.
      • Jacob Hines 6 mths ago
        And then, next time the Feds need to bail out GM, they can just do it by passing a law requiring everyone to buy a GM SUV....
      • h2o4ever 6 mths ago
        Scalia's opinion on finding California's medical marijuana law unconstitutional was based on the interstate commerce clause, even though the law only applied to residents of the Golden State at the time it was signed.
    • Jamie  •  6 mths ago
      They should all sit and all decide. That is why we have 9 members of the supreme court and not one.
    • Cannibal  •  Phoenix, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Kagan helped write the law. it is a conflict of interest for her to rule on this
    • terryr  •  Houston, United States  •  6 mths ago
      A law that was too large and complicated to read before voting and passing it! And say it is justified by the "interstate commerce clause". What is wrong with this picture?
    • PieRocks  •  6 mths ago
      We know that the Supreme Court is skewed to the right, with the number of conservative leaning judges... right there is the trouble.. Judges are supposed to be non-biased... yeah right!!
    • Windriver  •  Pto. Limon, Costa Rica  •  6 mths ago
      If you believe that Kagen as SG did not discuss the legal aspects of this with the regime, I have some carbon credits to sell your foolish #$%$ Just like the WH had nothing to do with the Solyndra loan?