Official: Israel presents Mideast peace outline

Arabs are tough people to deal with.

Actually, PJ, the Arabs rejected the label of "Palestinian" with quotes such as the following. Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein.: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism."

Yeap the Peace outline consist of a little piece of west bank here a little piece of west bank there.

Jessica - Interesting "opinion", my question is, what history books are you referring to where Israel is listed as stealing Palestinian Lands? Also, prior to UN General Assembly Resolution 181 where both Israel and Palestine where set up as 2 separate states but the Palestinian Arabs refused the state due to a overall decision by the Arab League's refusal to follow the UN decision for a 2 state solution. So if the Palestinian Arabs reefused the deal how exactly did Israel steal their land? Also, prior to the Arab/Israeli War of 1967 both Egypt & Syria Occupied Jerusalem but after Gamal Abdel Nasser Hussein sent 100,000 troops to assault and take all of Israel with the full backing of the PLO and Palestinian people but were repelled by Israel's IDF it was the Palestinians that sacrificed their lands due to their involvement in attacking Israel where they lost their lands, not Israel steakling those lands from them. What I find amusing is that people like you see Israel as a occupier of Palestinian Lands yet prior to the 1967 Arab-Israeli War those lands were occupied by Arab countries yet people like you do not recognize that fact.

I think it's time you actually learn the real history of that issue within that region before you spout off your diarrhea of lies and unsubstanciated misconceptions attempting to villianize Israel. Get you facts straight because in doing so you won't look so ignorant!!!!

notice the jihadi "native" of the Arabian Peninsula will never talk about the true apartheid of Islam. The Organization of the Islamic Conferences (OIC) is a group that formally represents all 57 Muslim majority and plurality nations. The two main conferences in the title are the conferences of leaders and foreign ministers, so the apologists can't really call it a fringe organization.

The first thing to note is that everyone understands what the reaction would be if all Christian majority and plurality nations created the OCC. Immediately, Muslims would scream "Crusaders!" Why are we not to cry "Jihadis!"?

The group is the largest consistent voting block in the UN. It has much power and pushes "unaligned" nations to follow them. It ensures nations such as Libya are on the human rights panel, a complete joke.

Most importantly, they don't hide their key goal. The UN created the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. The OIC openly and unanimously rejects the UDHR. Why? Because it says human rights are innate to all people. That's wrong in the eyes of Islam.

The OIC put forward and supports the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights in Islam. It states that the sole source of rights is Sharia Law and the only rights people have are the ones Muslims deign to grant us.

When the 57 Muslims nations support the CDHRI, it's clear that the vast majority of Muslims support a different view of humanity and rights than we do here. When the American Muslims claim to be moderate, in the Western sense of the word, but refuse to discuss the OIC, furthermore openly oppose it, they just show that they are the forefront of jihad and not people interested in democracy.

"I've always been led to believe that the West bank and Gaza Strip was set aside..."

Led to believe by your Imam, I take it.

Rather, UNR181 said there would be two nations on the 22% of Mandate Palestine that wasn't already judenrein Israel. Both nations were to be democracies giving equal rights to both people. Jews agreed and Israel has such rights. You Arabs disagreed because Sharia says Muslims and non Muslims can't ever be equal, and you ethnically cleansed Jews from the lands you captured, in violation of the UN Charter and the GC, in 1948.

Here are the facts you Jew haters avoid:
1) Jews lived there through history
2) Jews were there in 1948
3) Jews were legally there according to the British Mandate
4) Jews were legally allowed to be there according to UNR181
5) Arabs rejected UNR181, therefore the Mandate's population laws remained the last legal document accepted by all sides
6) Violating the UN Charter, the Arabs invaded across their own borders and took land in a war of aggression
7) The Arabs violated international law by ethnically cleansing all Jews
8) When the Arabs lost another war, and they were pushed back to their borders, Jews returned.

Native.....with all the oil money in the Arab World why are there ANY poor Arabs...anywhere????

If the Palestinians are so anxious to fight against an "apartheid" state why don't they attack Saudi Arabia....Iran...Syria and other Arab states that are practicing apartheid? Their women are treated like slaves...no other rligions are tolerated in these countries.Thir Jewish populations have been decimated....Native....you are a hypocrite. Israel has a million Arabs living there in peace and prosperity.Your blind hatred will destoy you!!

As whatever Abbas says there is still the issue of Hamas.
Maybe when people start to consistently hold Hamas responsible for its actions and that is not just its actions towards Israelis but the atrocities it commits on its own people, will Israel start believing and trusting a peace process.Not easy for Israel when face by such blind hatred.
Genocide was accepted as Hamas’s guiding principal, enshrined in the Hamas charter and articulated by its spiritual leader Mahmoud Al –Zahar..

duh, i saw on the internet the jews killed all of the arabs in the world already (the pictures you see of them now are old ones) and we pay each israeli a million dollars. and they want more! netanyahoo said he needs more too so he can blow up america next. so just watch your taxes go up higher now guys! the internet is a great wealth of information.

This dialogue seems to be heading to infinity. In the meantime the Palestinian individual is suffering from homelessness and identity confusion. Arab league can start by issuing Arab passports to Palestinians allowing them to work anywhere in the vast and rich Arab land.

Are there any actual followers of Judaism on this thread? What is the deal between those that believe the creation of "israel" violates one of the Three Oaths, and those that believe it does not? It would seem that this is a huge divide.

Zionism is a Jewish political movement that, in its broadest sense, has supported the self-determination of the Jewish people in a sovereign Jewish national homeland.

Love 2 Swim : have you ever considered suspending your obsession with the Jewish people in favor of something constructive like learning to write in English ?

Are we done talking about Libya? We got their central bank? What about Iraq? Ahhh, we got all their stuff too, now yahoo does story after story about Iran - suddenly we need to go to war and they are the current pariah! Is it possible the purposes we have for going from war to war to war are nefarious? And yahoo feeds the propaganda machine, another attempt to demonize, to give a reason to keep the bombs dropping - a constant state of war, with no reasonable leaders with any good ideas, just threats, bombs and conquest! Sad!

You have had it with Iran? What have you had?- An earfull of propaganda. The arrogance of our Government, goodness. Why do we have such high moral ground to have all the weapons, but no one else is allowed? It is called world domination, sheeple, that is all that our banks (I mean Government) cares about. Your interests were sold a long time ago.

Warmongers; your Government has you right where they want you. Media is a powerful tool over the people....Take these words LITERALLY: BELIEVE NONE OF WHAT YOU HEAR AND HALF OF WHAT YOU SEE. Mind our own business, the rest of the world will never be like us!...You all are so manipulated..if not for your media, what would you know about Iran??? Keep being hateful towards certain countries, that is what they want from you.....Think about that, sheeple. Conquest and glory to the USA!! Just like every other huge empire from history!!!! This is child's play. At least recognize it!


"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it"

Native - Up until 1960 the people in that territory were known as Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews. it was the PLO that assigned that name solely to their cause which was 100% political. It was the PLO that excluded Jews from being included in that reference as it would take away from their claims of sovereign title. So your statement is not only false but also historically inaccurate. Ask yourself, if Israel is a apartheid state as you have said time and time again, why is it that Arabs make up more than 20% of the population in Israel with Arab Representation within the Knesset and those Arabs are known as Israeli citizens but if we look to the West Bank Jews are known as occupiers, their homes "illegal settlements" and there are no Jews represented within either the Fatah or Hamas governments of the proposed state of Palestine. So who really runs an apartheid state within those factors? It is now time for the Palestinians to recognize the Jews as legal residents, due representation within that government and it's neighbor Israel as a state within the Middle East.

Palestine was the name Romans renamed Israel 135 after Christ.
It was never a state. Only geographical area.
No Arabic was spoken here then.
It came much later.
This land is Jews land God promised to Abraham!
Jews and Arabs lived together before 1948.
Jews wanted DIVISION and PEACE - the Arabs REFUSED and wanted to kill Jews.
We saw signs in London: Muslim will rule the world. Not Israel only, but all the world!
WAKE UP: ISRAEL DEFENDS YOU and THE WORLD!

Are we done talking about Libya? We got their central bank? What about Iraq? Ahhh, we got all their stuff too, now yahoo does story after story about Iran - suddenly we need to go to war and they are the current pariah! Is it possible the purposes we have for going from war to war to war are nefarious? And yahoo feeds the propaganda machine, another attempt to demonize, to give a reason to keep the bombs dropping - a constant state of war, with no reasonable leaders with any good ideas, just threats, bombs and conquest! Sad!

You have had it with Iran? What have you had?- An earfull of propaganda. The arrogance of our Government, goodness. Why do we have such high moral ground to have all the weapons, but no one else is allowed? It is called world domination, sheeple, that is all that our banks (I mean Government) cares about. Your interests were sold a long time ago.

Warmongers; your Government has you right where they want you. Media is a powerful tool over the people....Take these words LITERALLY: BELIEVE NONE OF WHAT YOU HEAR AND HALF OF WHAT YOU SEE. Mind our own business, the rest of the world will never be like us!...You all are so manipulated..if not for your media, what would you know about Iran??? Keep being hateful towards certain countries, that is what they want from you.....Think about that, sheeple. Conquest and glory to the USA!! Just like every other huge empire from history!!!! This is child's play. At least recognize it!


"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it"

When religious people discard their old fantasies, they will be able to see the solutions more clearly.

Sounds like the Native American peace initiative set forth by Andrew Jackson . . .