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    Palestinians to seek full UN membership Sept. 23

    RAMALLAH, West Bank (AP) โ€” The Palestinians will ask the Security Council next week to accept them as a full member of the United Nations, the Palestinian foreign minister said Thursday, a move that would defy Washington's threat to veto the statehood bid.

    The remarks by Riad Malki came just ahead of the arrival in the West Bank of a senior U.S. diplomatic team that was in the region in a last-ditch effort to persuade the Palestinians to drop the U.N. bid. Although Malki did not close the door on compromise, his comments signaled the chances of breakthrough were slim.

    With a diplomatic showdown looming, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced Thursday that he would travel to the U.N. next week to lead the opposition to the Palestinian initiative.

    The emerging scenario would constitute a blow to U.S. diplomacy by forcing Washington to veto a proposal whose outcome โ€” a Palestinian state โ€” in principle is supported by most of the world, including the White House and many in Israel as well.

    However, both the U.S. and Israel say a Palestinian state can be established only through negotiations.

    It could also drag out the maneuver at the United Nations for months.

    The process would have to play out in the Security Council before the Palestinians turn to the General Assembly, where they are likely to find the needed majority for a lesser form of recognition as a "nonmember observer state."

    Malki said the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, will personally submit the Palestinian request for membership to U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon after addressing the General Assembly on the afternoon of Sept. 23. In the meantime, he said the Palestinians would listen to suggested alternatives.

    "We will see if anyone carries with him or her any credible offer that will allow us to look into it seriously and to be discussed in the Palestinian leadership. Otherwise, on the 23rd at 12:30, the president will submit the application," Malki told foreign journalists in Ramallah.

    The Palestinians say they are turning to the U.N. in frustration after years of failed peace talks. While a U.N. vote will not change the situation on the ground, the Palestinians believe it will improve their position if peace talks resume.

    "We are going to the United Nations because we want really to strengthen the chances for the resumption of negotiations," Malki said.

    Malki said the Palestinians were still ready to listen to suggestions from American envoys. And in New York, his U.N. ambassador, Riyad Mansour, said a final decision on whether to pursue recognition in the powerful Security Council, or seek a lesser, symbolic status in the General Assembly still had not been made.

    "The final decision will be taken in the next few days as to which path we will follow," Mansour said.

    Asked about his boss's comments in Ramallah, he replied: "There are many words from many places, but what I'm telling you is that we are deliberating all these details and it is not yet finalized."

    The U.S. envoys, David Hale and Dennis Ross, are the latest in a string of senior diplomats who are trying to get the Palestinians to cancel their U.N. bid and instead resume negotiations with Israel. The European Union's foreign policy chief, Catherine Ashton, and international Mideast envoy Tony Blair have also held talks with the Palestinians in recent days.

    A meeting with Blair late Wednesday, Malki said, "did not produce anything new."

    The last round of Israel-Palestinian talks broke down a year ago, just weeks after their launch, in a dispute over Israeli settlement construction in the West Bank and east Jerusalem. The Palestinians claim both areas, captured by Israel in the 1967 Mideast war for their future state.

    The Palestinians say they will not return to the table unless Israel freezes settlement construction and accepts its 1967 boundaries as the basis for a final agreement. Israel captured the West Bank and east Jerusalem, territories claimed by the Palestinians, in the 1967 Mideast war.

    U.S. officials in Washington say the proposed formula would endorse parameters laid out in a speech by President Barack Obama last May, when he said the 1967 lines should be the basis of an agreement. The Israeli daily Yediot Ahronot said other details would include a three-month settlement moratorium and six-month timetable for talks.

    The U.S. has already said it will use its veto in the Security Council, the powerful 15-member body that must approve U.N. membership.

    Netanyahu, meanwhile, announced he would lead his government's delegation to the annual gathering in New York. Acknowledging the General Assembly is not "particularly sympathetic to Israel," he said it was important to go and "lay things out the way they are."

    Netanyahu said he would stress his country's security needs, particularly in light of the dramatic changes sweeping through the Arab world.

    "I will tell the truth, the simple truth, and the truth is Israel wants peace," Netanyahu said. "We know that this peace is conditioned on recognition and security, and I think these needs are only sharpened against the background of the events we see around us."

     
     
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    • Enfant terrible  •  Ottawa, Canada  •  6 mths ago
      "No" to Terrorists within the UN Body.
    • MusicMan  •  8 mths ago
      We Jews -I mean we Zionists- are NOT afraid of Palestinian's
      conspiracy in UN. We have the US Congress and the major part
      of American policymakers in our pocket. American politician's
      election campaigns are financed by our lobbyists. That's why
      American politicians won't drink water without our approval.
      Any American politician who doesn't follow our directives would
      politically be a dead body !
    • MannyZ  •  8 mths ago
      As an Israeli citizen, I say go for it, and I hope the UN will vote YES. I have a second hope that Bibi retire or just find a difrent line of work, something like mail room clark.
      • wizard 8 mths ago
        liar
      • Luke 8 mths ago
        ...cool. Hope there's more like you. The Israeli goverment certainly needs a facelift.
      • Ezrach Jacobi 8 mths ago
        ืžื” ื”ืงืฉืจ ืœื‘ื™ื‘ื™? ืื•ืœืžืจื˜ ื”ืกืชื“ืจ ืื™ืชื ื™ื•ืชืจ ื˜ื•ื‘? ื•ืœืคื ื™ ืื•ืœืžืจื˜ ื•ืœืคื ื™ ืฉืจื•ืŸ ...
    • Salexpo  •  8 mths ago
      It took hundred of years for Algeria to free itself from the French. french people thought it was their land too. things take time but will change one day when religion fades...
      • CunningStuntman 8 mths ago
        Hundreds?? The French controlled Algeria from 1830-1962.

        Muslims, on the other hand, ruled Greece for 300+ years, and Spain for 600+ years.
    • I_Slam_Islam  •  8 mths ago
      Yawns. Same old crap. Ironically enough, September 23 is the last day of Summer. Time for the muslims to Fall.
      • Shuvonn 8 mths ago
        the last day of summer is september 21 ......
      • scooter berk 8 mths ago
        why don't you go to israel to see how they treat Christian SOB
    • Ezrach Jacobi  •  8 mths ago
      I for once see my self as a conservative right wing Zionist and there is nothing I want more then separate ourselves from the Palestinians I donโ€™t want to keep them as an ornament thatโ€™s fun to keep supporting their non existent economy and provide medical services, transportation and work getting stubbed back by a Hamas terrorist or a Fatah terrorist and lose millions on the huge crime rate they produce in stilling property especially cars โ€ฆbut I do expect to separate under acceptable terms meaning:
      1. You get a state and we get to keep ours-recognition (Israel is the Jewish state) based on 67 boarders and no more demands.
      2. Jerusalem with its Jewish history will keep being the capital of Israel and the Palis will get their Arabic part.
      Can we agree on that?????
      I already know their answer maybe all those who don't need to hear it from them..Ask the "nice" Palestinians are they ready to compromise for Peace?!and they don't have to give us anything on the contrary just leave us be..can they???!
    • A Huff  •  8 mths ago
      In the same way our God punished all the gods' of Egypt, and set his children free, will he also judge Allah and all the nations who bully Israel.
      • dave 8 mths ago
        Bull.
      • terminator 8 mths ago
        Leave your god out of this discussion. It has done nothing to help the situation.
      • Sir 8 mths ago
        I believe it is Israel that is bullying and expanding its borders based on religious, racial, and ethnic prejudices.
    • A Huff  •  8 mths ago
      Here we go again! Some people are incapeable of learning. British Prime Minister Chamberlin gave the Jew haters land for peace. His appeasment policy towards Natzi Germany only encouraged further aggression. Haman, King Herod, Ceasar, Hitler, and the numberous Pope's, and many other have tried to wipe out the seed of Abraham only to see God's judgement piled on their heads. Are you ready for the judgement of WWIII ? If not then stop bullying Israel! Let them build their homes and forget about phony claims of Palestinian land.
      • JoMama 8 mths ago
        Let people STEAL with impunity and savagery, sure, that sends a great message to our children. PIGS.
      • dave 8 mths ago
        Burn all of them and let the world rest from all the Zionist pigs.
    • Ed  •  8 mths ago
      There is no such place, or people, it's all made up. Look it up, you will be surprised at what you find. You have dig deep to find the truth, but it's worth it!
    • Ezrach Jacobi  •  8 mths ago
      I can understand how third world countries will vote for the sovereignty of a new state that has not legitimize borders and also has no geographical continuance but insist on keeping Israel as an enemy instead of negotiating and agree on the borders but I can't understand western civilized countries that know for a fact that this vote may put the Palestinians in a very difficult situation not only the Israelis what can lead to another bloodshed that will drag them all in โ€“for them to have a state there must be an international acceptance that this new state has obligations as well to keep the borders safe and since they refuse to negotiate the borders are unknown 67 lines are not black and white and without recognition of Israel the hostility will probably intense
    • A Yahoo! User  •  8 mths ago
      If they are allowed to be named as a country then that is snubbing Israel who they don't recognize. Their goal is to destroy Israel so is the UN going to help them do it?

      I say get the hell out of the UN and make them go back to Belguim and and leave s the hell alone. It does nothing but collect money for huge salaries and does little to really help ppl.

      Palestinians will only keep killing and with Al Quida helping the UN would only give them one more place to hide and work out of. Don't do it and cut off their funding.
    • vistavision2  •  8 mths ago
      Rusty Bacon, Ashkenazim [e.g, Russian & German convert "Jew"s] are Japhetites and NOT Semites.

      GEN 15:18 "Thy Seed [aka DNA] Covenant" is a SEMITIC Covenant; Whereof Semtic Abramites are Ishmaelites, Jacobites [Israel & Judah].

      "Pure" Arabs are Semites being descended from Jokan, [Brother of Peleg who is the ancestor of Abram.

      Ishamel's daughter married the Semite Abramite Esau [Jacob's twin brother].

      Every which way you cut the DNA pizza pie Arabs & specifically Arab Palestinians are Semites; Whereof Ashkenazim Israel's are NOT Semites.
    • vistavision2  •  8 mths ago
      Warning, When both Kingdom of Israel & Judah co-existed, Judah's priests killed Israel's false priests & destroyed their false altars at beth-el & beth-dan creating the context for "The Landmark" to disperse them & took back captives back to Babylon.
    • Time  •  8 mths ago
      All the nazi racist zios and their 'friends' are crappppping in their unmentionables.

      This is just the beginning.
    • Greg  •  8 mths ago
      It wont be long before the arabs are blaming the failure of their precious "arab spring" on Israel. Once again the jews will be painted as the villains and the arabs will never relent in their centuries old vendetta.
    • WARNING !  •  8 mths ago
      @ Rusty B.,
      The Bible records that the land of Israel was lost in two stages. The 12 tribes were split into two kingdoms. (1 Kings 11:9-13) The 10 Northern tribes formed a kingdom called Israel with its capital as Samaria and the 2 Southern tribes formed a kingdom called Judah with its capitol Jerusalem.
      When exactly did the Jews become Israelites, 1948?
    • Clown_phallus69  •  8 mths ago
      Palestine is not entitled to a state. before the jews, were the arabs, but know who was there before them? everyone chooses not to look further for sake of arguement to be pro-palestine. THE JEWS! and they were wrongly driven out by those arabs. the Jews are back and they cant accept it. All the Palestinians should be stoned for heresy, in islam, judaism, and even christianity it is given by the divine to only the jews, and its non negotiable. Also, the palestinians are run by a terror cell thats pro-iran. is that what everyone wants more of? i hope they do get recognized, then Israel can legally up alllll the bills close allll the borders even more, send allllllll the servants back. and then attack them for trying to break away. I hope they all die horribly.
    • WARNING !  •  8 mths ago
      Since the creation of the United Nations in 1945, no country has violated as many UN Security Council Resolutions as the state of Israel. In spite of this fact, Israel, a country slightly smaller than the state of New Jersey, receives nearly 1/3 of the entire annual US Foreign Aid budget.

      *As a permanent member of the UN Security Council, the United States has the power to veto any Resolution it wishes, and has used this veto power more than 20 times since 1973, to thwart the will of the Council, and to shield Israel from any consequenses for its actions.

      *According to a report released by the Israeli Peace Now movement, the Israeli government spent well over US$533 million in sustaining the illegal Jewish settlements in the occupied territories in 2001, more than half of that amount provided by United States tax-funded economic aid.
      Israel has never met requirements for U.N.membership, and should have no voice there.
    • INFIDEL  •  8 mths ago
      palestine or nazi germany a skunk by any other name still smells...
    • Ruprecht  •  8 mths ago
      While in Tel Aviv go down to George st and view for yourself a museum dedicated to the terrorist thugs of the Irgun Oh, they were "paramilitary"units
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