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    Palestinians seek statehood, but Gaza is forgotten

    GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) โ€” In the Palestinians' high-profile bid to seek statehood at the United Nations, half the future nation they envision has been all but forgotten. Residents of the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip are watching frustrated from the sidelines as the West Bank-based leadership pushes for the long-held dream.

    The move for U.N. recognition has created a quandary for the Islamic militant Hamas, which violently overran Gaza three years ago and set up a rival government there. They can't publicly oppose the idea of statehood, but they are wary of giving a boost to their West Bank rival, internationally backed President Mahmoud Abbas. They also don't want to appear to recognize Israel, as the move implicitly does by calling for a state only on territories captured in 1967.

    Palestinian leaders in the West Bank "forget the missing part, which is Gaza," said Taher Khalil, a 45-year-old retired civil servant and father of seven.

    "We only know about this move from TV, we don't know what is right and what is wrong ... no one came out and told us what the future will look like after we submit the bid at the U.N.," he said.

    Abbas' Palestinian Authority is seeking recognition of an independent state on territories that Israel captured in the 1967 Mideast war, including the West Bank, east Jerusalem and Gaza. Israel withdrew soldiers and settlers from Gaza in 2005, but still controls its crossings, blockades its coast and occupies the West Bank and east Jerusalem.

    Abbas' government has wielded no authority in Gaza, home to 1.5 million Palestinians, since Hamas pushed out Abbas loyalists in 2007 and set up an Islamic-oriented mini-state complete with government ministries, a military force and a postal service.

    Hamas, allied with Iran and openly committed to Israel's destruction, does not support the U.N. move, but has largely kept a low profile, not openly condemning it. Instead, Hamas officials have chided Abbas โ€” also known by his nickname Abu Mazen โ€” for going it alone.

    "Abu Mazen's decision to go to the U.N. without consulting with Palestinian factions about the negative and positive impact of such a move and with only partial Arab, Islamic and international support is something very risky," said Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum.

    "We are talking about issues related to the fate of the Palestinian people," he said. "Such a move must be studied by experts and decisions should be taken by all the parties concerned, not individually."

    Further complicating matters, the last time Palestinians held parliamentary elections, in 2006, Hamas won, and the group claims that it is thus the legitimate representative of the Palestinian people, not the Palestinian Authority. Abbas' government is internationally recognized and bankrolled by foreign aid, but his term has expired and he currently governs by decree, with Israel holding overall security control in the West Bank.

    In Gaza, souvenir cups are on sale commemorating the statehood initiative, and the U.N. bid appears to have become the talk of the town among average Gazans. But opinions vary.

    Awny Ouda, a 23-year-old student at Gaza's Islamic University, said he would not be satisfied with a state based on the lines Israel held before the 1967 war and wants one that replaces Israel.

    "Abbas wants to give the remains of our lands and rights on a silver tray to the occupation," he said. "Recognizing the Palestinian state on the 1967 borders would deprive us of returning to our lands of 1948."

    Rawan Hassan, a 42-year-old teacher, called the bid a "cosmetic step."

    "The conflict with Israel is not over and it will never be over unless the Palestinian state is established on the ground and not on paper," she said.

    But Zuhair Hamdan, a 25-year-old waiter at a seaside coffee shop, said the Palestinians had nothing to lose and were getting some positive attention for a change.

    "The past weeks the world has been busy finding out what's happening and this is something rare when you see the name of Palestine on TV without a link to violence and blood," he said.

    Abbas's U.N. bid has put him in a showdown with Israel and the United States, both of whom object to the U.N. initiative and say Palestinian independence should come only as a result of peace negotiations.

    A successful U.N. vote will not change the situation on the ground, either in Gaza or the West Bank. Abbas and his colleagues say they are turning to the U.N. in frustration after years of failed peace talks with Israel, and they believe recognition will improve their position if talks resume. International bodies like the U.N. and the World Bank say that after years of foreign investments and aid, the institutions necessary for statehood are in place in the West Bank.

    Gaza, meanwhile, has been mired in poverty, worsened by years of Israeli blockade since Hamas's takeover. Although Israel evacuated Gaza in 2005, it still controls crossings and has a naval blockade on the tiny Mediterranean strip. Armed militants from Hamas and smaller factions regularly launch rockets from Gaza at towns inside Israel, drawing Israeli retaliation.

    Because of the dramatically different world views of Hamas and Abbas' Fatah faction that heads the Palestinian Authority, several rounds of reconciliation attempts between them have failed in recent years. A framework deal signed earlier this year has not been implemented and the sides remain as divided as ever.

    Hanan Ashrawi, a West Bank legislator, said a successful U.N. bid could bring the rival factions closer together.

    "If we do get a recognition at whatever level, it means it will also help in the process of reconciliation because it will send a message to all Palestinians that the issue is one of justice and legality and not of one of power politics," she said.

     

    237 comments

    • Jeff  •  8 mths ago
      If a French terrorist group was firing rockets over the Channel into London, and the French government would not or could not stop them, then English would blockade French ports and stage air strikes.
      English would also stop "aid shipments" they thought would end up with the terrorists.

      I'm afraid, however, that very few people here make any effort to see things from this point of view.
    • Chloe  •  8 mths ago
      So this means they will become civilized and decent? and they will stop the killing of innocent people all around the world? No more children and women stabbing? No more random rockets? No more antitank missiles directed to school buses or olympic teams assassinated? No more bombs in Jewish temples? No more bombs in public transportation buses? No more educating their children into kamikaze warriors full of hatred and violence?
      • Idiot_Savant 8 mths ago
        Of course not, the selfish little children want it all, as their quotes above express quite clearly...
    • Take that  •  8 mths ago
      Look how many people are pro Israel. Muzzie propagandists try to make it seem like they're the majority, but I think the number of Pali supporters is really pretty small.
    • Tom  •  8 mths ago
      Muslims are divided over wether Isreal should be overtly destroyed or destroyed gradually Arafat style.
      • Idiot_Savant 8 mths ago
        Of course, over time is their only option. As the Israeli's have kicked their sissy #$%$ not once, but 4 times. ROFL@ALL of her neighbors being 0-4. Learn to fight you silly little girls...
    • Chloe  •  8 mths ago
      this says it all.......... copied from the above article: Hamas, allied with Iran and openly committed to Israel's destruction, does not support the U.N. move, but has largely kept a low profile, not openly condemning it. Instead, Hamas officials have chided Abbas โ€” also known by his nickname Abu Mazen โ€” for going it alone.
    • GI guy  •  8 mths ago
      Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion. Sure, it has a god, and a
      here-after, and 72 virgins. But in its essence Islam is a political
      ideology. It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the
      life of every person.. Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life. Islam
      means 'submission'. Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy,
      because what it strives for is sharia. If you want to compare Islam to
      anything, compare it to communism or national-socialism, these are all
      totalitarian ideologies.
      They would, and rightly so, see the demise of Israel as proof that the West is weak, and doomed. The end of Israel would not mean the end of our problems with Islam, but only the beginning. It would mean the start of the final battle for world domination. If they can get Israel , they can get everything. So-called journalists volunteer to label any and all critics of Islamization as a 'right-wing extremists' or 'racists'.
      Islamic ideology has to be defeated and there is no such thing as moderate Islam, and we are advocating the ban of the Quran, Islamic dress, and the further immigration of Muslims to our country.
      • dghammer 8 mths ago
        And that is an historic fact
    • US  •  8 mths ago
      Jordan didn't want the West Bank back and Egypt didn't want Gaza back because they didn't want to deal with the people there.
    • MyNameDoesn'tMatter  •  8 mths ago
      Awny Ouda, a 23-year-old student at Gaza's Islamic University, said he would not be satisfied with a state based on the lines Israel held before the 1967 war and wants one that replaces Israel.I wonder how long they had to search for this guy? Not long, I bet. Those "Palestinians" are Krazy, and should not be getting anything but a good kick in the #$%$
    • ab  •  8 mths ago
      A president who's tenure has expired by years under his countries own laws is nothing more than a dictator...and in Abbas's case one who controls little beyond his own office door.........
    • WIB  •  8 mths ago
      has anybody marveled that the area Gaza that Israel backed out of is the one still with the most violence. you would think The residents would want to show how peaceful they would be if they got it their way as in Gaza but the only message they send is no matter what happens they will not be happy
      • David 8 mths ago
        I completely agree. Think what would have happened if they had made sure no violence came from Gaza. Then, they could a lot more benefits from Israel and the world.
      • saba 8 mths ago
        Muslims are incapable of living in peace with anyone, including their own cousins. It goes back to Ishmael, a wild one.
    • cybernaut  •  8 mths ago
      Palestine will never reach statehood because no one wants to give terrorists the ability to form an army. Violent Hamas has hijacked the government, and the people have no control over who governs them. Palestinians have not learned how to live like peaceful neighbors and bring a lot of Jewish trouble on themselves (note katusha rockets). The Jews beat them decades ago, but the Palestinians refuse to recognize defeat and go on crazily fighting no matter how outgunned and overpowered they are. It is like monkeys trying to fight a lion. Palestinians have to give up statehood and look to organize themselves in productive terms. Only after they have proven to work out things without resorting to violence no matter how baited over an extended period of time will other nations take them seriously.
      • saba 8 mths ago
        Lots luck with that.
      • ROHEAD 8 mths ago
        No, not everyone. The U.S is the only hold up in the Security Council, the others favor making Palestine an independent state. Plus U.S politicans have been bought off by the Israeli lobby, that's why no one has the guts to stand up to Israel. Learn the facts. Watch and see, soon we're going to be fighting Iran for Israel, we're already there on both sides of Iran. First they planned and faked 9-11 to get us into Afganistan, then they faked that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction to get us into Iraq. Our American foreign policy is controlled by Israel, that's why America is going to veto the Palestinian's statehood bid, because it's what Israel want.
      • nocomment 8 mths ago
        about a million probably way more than tha palestinians have been killed by israel compared to the very little israels killed by palestinians who is the terroist now
    • cha-san  •  8 mths ago
      There are PLENTY of lands Palestinians can live in: Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Turkey, etc. The Jewish have the rights to live in the land of Israel & Jerusalem. They owned this land long before Christ's birth. The 2,000 year old Bible predicted that the Jewish will return to this land, a nation was born (1948). So, if anyone tries to invade or divide the land in Israel, God will do something - to protect the lands for the Jews. As the Bible predicted, Israel WILL win any future wars (with God's help). GOD BLESS ISRAEL!!!!
    • Idiot_Savant  •  8 mths ago
      ROFL@Israel's neighbors atrocious fighting skills. 0-4 you silly little girls, the UN is your only hope for a state...
    • Kingpaddy  •  8 mths ago
      This is a fight between the Zionists and the al-Husseini family that has been in charge of Jerusalem for 150 years. They are a very wealthy family and the Mayors of Jerusalem and the Grand Muftis who control Islamic law are all part of this group which is FATAH. They started the PLO all in a fight for turf. Many of the Jews that are in Israel are there because Hitler sent them 30,000 a year before the Arabs and the British started clamping down on immigration in the 1930's. Before 1914 there was practically no one living in this territory.

      Only after the Balfour Agreement did the Arab League start forcing immigration as Islam will not give up land that they have taken. Read Mark Twain's description of the land and it's emptiness.

      The Jews are following a religious belief that God gave them this land and they had better keep it or learn to run fast in case God just happens to show up. He might be testy if they give up their gift.
    • Speak Softly...  •  8 mths ago
      Uh yeah. Maybe we should give Texas back to Mexico and the United States back to Great Britain and the American Indians....
      Lands are won and lost in war. When you instigate the war and you lose your land, well, that's just too bad. You can't have it back.
    • Yarden  •  8 mths ago
      Palestine becomes a state, okay. If anybody thinks Hamas is going to give up control of Gaza City, think again.
    • Native  •  8 mths ago
      To the dismay of zionists, Gaza will be a state by itself and will be more pro active in stopping the land theft, the assassinations, the abuse, the corruption that european jews brought to the middle east.
    • Koranus  •  8 mths ago
      This article seems sympathetic to the "Poor" citizens of Gaza for being left out of the predicted recognition of a Palestinian state.. The fact of the matter is the PLO and Fatah are marginally "curable" forms of cancer. Hamas on the other hand is a "terminal" cancer that must be eradicated.
    • Sheldon  •  8 mths ago
      The Palestinians keep whining about the peace process with Israel when they have no peace among themselves. Once again the PA wants to put a band-aid on a severe wound. The UN bid is almost like social promotion for students who do poorly in class but, have to moved along the system. Had the PA done its homework, taken bold steps, sweated the hard work and the details, they would not be seeking promotion from the most dysfunctional organization on the planet, the United Nations.
    • Earl  •  8 mths ago
      Gaza is certainly not forgotten by Israelis who have to worry about incoming rockets day in and day out.
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