Discover Yahoo! With Your Friends

Explore news, videos and much more based on what your friends are reading and watching. Publish your own activity and retain full control.

To get started, first

YOUR FRIENDS' ACTIVITY

    Should parents lose custody of super obese kids?

    CHICAGO (AP) — Should parents of extremely obese children lose custody for not controlling their kids' weight? A provocative commentary in one of the nation's most distinguished medical journals argues yes, and its authors are joining a quiet chorus of advocates who say the government should be allowed to intervene in extreme cases.

    It has happened a few times in the U.S., and the opinion piece in Wednesday's Journal of the American Medical Association says putting children temporarily in foster care is in some cases more ethical than obesity surgery.

    Dr. David Ludwig, an obesity specialist at Harvard-affiliated Children's Hospital Boston, said the point isn't to blame parents, but rather to act in children's best interest and get them help that for whatever reason their parents can't provide.

    State intervention "ideally will support not just the child but the whole family, with the goal of reuniting child and family as soon as possible. That may require instruction on parenting," said Ludwig, who wrote the article with Lindsey Murtagh, a lawyer and a researcher at Harvard's School of Public Health.

    "Despite the discomfort posed by state intervention, it may sometimes be necessary to protect a child," Murtagh said.

    But University of Pennsylvania bioethicist Art Caplan said he worries that the debate risks putting too much blame on parents. Obese children are victims of advertising, marketing, peer pressure and bullying — things a parent can't control, he said.

    "If you're going to change a child's weight, you're going to have to change all of them," Caplan said.

    Roughly 2 million U.S. children are extremely obese. Most are not in imminent danger, Ludwig said. But some have obesity-related conditions such as Type 2 diabetes, breathing difficulties and liver problems that could kill them by age 30. It is these kids for whom state intervention, including education, parent training, and temporary protective custody in the most extreme cases, should be considered, Ludwig said.

    While some doctors promote weight-loss surgery for severely obese teens, Ludwig said it hasn't been used for very long in adolescents and can have serious, sometimes life-threatening complications.

    "We don't know the long-term safety and effectiveness of these procedures done at an early age," he said.

    Ludwig said he starting thinking about the issue after a 90-pound 3-year-old girl came to his obesity clinic several years ago. Her parents had physical disabilities, little money and difficulty controlling her weight. Last year, at age 12, she weighed 400 pounds and had developed diabetes, cholesterol problems, high blood pressure and sleep apnea.

    "Out of medical concern, the state placed this girl in foster care, where she simply received three balanced meals a day and a snack or two and moderate physical activity," he said. After a year, she lost 130 pounds. Though she is still obese, her diabetes and apnea disappeared; she remains in foster care, he said.

    In a commentary in the medical journal BMJ last year, London pediatrician Dr. Russell Viner and colleagues said obesity was a factor in several child protection cases in Britain. They argued that child protection services should be considered if parents are neglectful or actively reject efforts to control an extremely obese child's weight.

    A 2009 opinion article in Pediatrics made similar arguments. Its authors said temporary removal from the home would be warranted "when all reasonable alternative options have been exhausted."

    That piece discussed a 440-pound 16-year-old girl who developed breathing problems from excess weight and nearly died at a University of Wisconsin hospital. Doctors discussed whether to report her family for neglect. But they didn't need to, because her medical crisis "was a wake-up call" for her family, and the girl ended up losing about 100 pounds, said co-author Dr. Norman Fost, a medical ethicist at the university's Madison campus.

    State intervention in obesity "doesn't necessarily involve new legal requirements," Ludwig said. Health care providers are required to report children who are at immediate risk, and that can be for a variety of reasons, including neglect, abuse and what doctors call "failure to thrive." That's when children are severely underweight.

    Jerri Gray, a Greenville, S.C., single mother who lost custody of her 555-pound 14-year-old son two years ago, said authorities don't understand the challenges families may face in trying to control their kids' weight.

    "I was always working two jobs so we wouldn't end up living in ghettos," Gray said. She said she often didn't have time to cook, so she would buy her son fast food. She said she asked doctors for help for her son's big appetite but was accused of neglect.

    Her sister has custody of the boy, now 16. The sister has the money to help him with a special diet and exercise, and the boy has lost more than 200 pounds, Gray said.

    "Even though good has come out of this as far as him losing weight, he told me just last week, 'Mommy, I want to be back with you so bad.' They've done damage by pulling us apart," Gray said.

    Stormy Bradley, an Atlanta mother whose overweight 14-year-old daughter is participating in a Georgia advocacy group's "Stop Childhood Obesity" campaign, said she sympathizes with families facing legal action because of their kids' weight.

    Healthier food often costs more, and trying to monitor kids' weight can be difficult, especially when they reach their teens and shun parental control, Bradley said. But taking youngsters away from their parents "definitely seems too extreme," she said.

    Dr. Lainie Ross, a medical ethicist at the University of Chicago, said: "There's a stigma with state intervention. We just have to do it with caution and humility and make sure we really can say that our interventions are going to do more good than harm."

    ___

    Online:

    JAMA: http://jama.ama-assn.org

    Pediatrics: http://www.pediatrics.org

    ___

    AP Medical Writer Lindsey Tanner can be reached at http://www.twitter.com/LindseyTanner

     
     
    Top Locations Wilmington

    3,047 comments

    • Steven  •  6 mths ago
      The answer is absolutely! It's a #$%$ joke when you see a six-year old that weighs 350 pounds! If starving a child is abuse so is overfeeding a child!
    • Tiffani  •  6 mths ago
      Ya know, I get that there are some kids that have medical conditions, but the vast majority of obese kids only got that way because mom or dad sat them down in front of saturday morning cartoons, or the play station with a box of twinkies and a coke! it IS the parents fault. you can't tell me that a three year old can take responsibility for what he or she eats.
    • Jason  •  6 mths ago
      It's an iffy issue. Fast food and junk food is much cheaper than healthy food at the grocery store--I was just there this morning and the produce costed way more than the torilla chips, popcorn, and soda I bought. If you're poor, it's extremely difficult to but healthy food because it's so expensive, hence the children of poor families, and the parents themselves, have a much higher chance of being overweight. If we just fixed the poverty problem in this country, I bet the rate of obesity could drop a lot.
    • Happy Days  •  6 mths ago
      People get mad when I say children should have the right to choose to be FAT. Parents are supposed to guide and protect their children...educate the parent or protect the kids from them!!
    • A Yahoo! User  •  6 mths ago
      You are not born obese..you become obese by those teaching you...It is not fair to the innocent children. They are the ones that are made fun of for being fat. I have obese family members..3 over 350 or very near...guess what, Mom is one of them. Others in my family, my neice is obese, 3 out of 3 are heavy, but if they don't watch it, it will be out of control. If you don't buy it, it won't be at home to eat. plain and simple...I wasn't born with a silver spoon, but I was taught to put it down when I was full..by EXAMPLE.....If the junk is there, they will eat it.......
    • A Yahoo! User  •  6 mths ago
      To reply to the lady that didn't have time to cook with 2 jobs..well...On your day off, prepare meals and freeze them..very easy to do..and believe me, will save a ton of money doing so. The amount of fast food that obese child will need to fuel him is way..way..more expensive than the grocery store.....Obese children generally have obese parents...from what I have seen anyway...Look around the grocery store- the fat or even obese people have very little actual food in their carts..junk, soda, candy, etc...rare that you see lettuce, fruit, vegtables of any kind... you are what you eat...
    • Get a Life!  •  6 mths ago
      My grandson is 12 years old and is severely obese and my grandaughter who is 9, is close behind him. Both parents work and the kids are left with daughter n' law's parents. Grandfather feeds them at McDonald's almost daily. Their Mom stops for fast food after work every day.....Grandson spends all day on video game and Facebook. Several people are at fault here. When I have them and try and feed them fruit or take them with me for a daily walk, there is constant complaining.......there's some people in this real-life scenario need a "wake-up" call and it's not diabetes as Great-Grandma has it, Grandma has it, Mom has it and the children are destined. So, these kids don't have a chance and they see their doctor, too, who says "exercise and less calorie intake." Ears are not open...It's a real shame to watch my grandkids slowly being destroyed, but if I even give them fruit, I am chastized by the mother and lucky to see them if I utter one word. Short lives are expected.
    • Joe B  •  6 mths ago
      I say yes but only if they start rounding up obese adults too. We are the fattest country on Earth. What about the 60% of overweight adults with 60% of them being obese? Why focus on the kids? What type of example does our fat country make?
      I wonder what the healthcare costs are on treating people with ailments as a result of their being fat is? Besides, Having a fridge full of salad wont keep the kiddos from eating poorly. Last time I checked, half of isle 7 at Kroger is nothing BUT candy! Then there's the chip and cookie isle, the ice cream... oh and sodas; cant forget them. Pastries and exotic delights on isle 11 oh, the bakery. Then the beer isle :) Then leave the store and its fast food city and restaurant row. PARENTS DO NOT SHOVEL CHOCOLATE COVERED FRIES IN THEIR CHILDRENS MOUTHS!!!!!
    • Clint Smith  •  6 mths ago
      As a very fit 29 year old I was raised by a mother who didn't just give me food any time I cried as a kid. That schedule and mentality helped me develop good habits. In addition, we played basketball, soccer, football, etc and not always in leagues where you had to pay money, but in the field down the road or in front of the church down the road (which we didn't attend) - we didn't just play video games (though we did plenty of that too). Today I still have a career, a PT job for some extra cash, play sand volleyball two nights a week, play golf once a week, and have a dog that I walk and play with.

      Because of all that I frankly get upset or sometimes disgusted when I see really heavy people because I don't understand how people let themselves get like that - yes, I understand that genetics can play a role, but that is too often used as a crutch. When I see fat parents walking around with their fat kids, those kids never had a chance because those parents simply passed along their bad habits.

      For those who say the government shouldn't get involved or worry about the cost, how much does it cost when those parents or their kids get medical treatment from Medicare?
    • Pete  •  6 mths ago
      Now the government wants to take over raising children? I think the government needs to focus on its current issues.
    • PartOfThe99  •  6 mths ago
      I have struggled with obesity for years, and I agree with some of the points of critics. But while a good part of weight is diet, some of it is genetic. My second eldest daughter is large although not obese, or even close to it). All of my kids are active; in her case, she walks with me 3 miles a day, 6 days a week. She is acive in basketball and track. She eats a reasonable diet. While we're instilling in her the proper lifestyle choices to maintain her weight, it will always be a struggle.

      I can only imagine how difficult it would be or parents who don't have the nutritional education, the access to quality foods, or the access to a park where you actually CAN go walking at 5:00 in the morning without fear of getting mugged.

      I will reluctanty agree, there are probably a few extreme cases where it may be in the best interests of the child to intevene. But I contend those cases are a very small minority, and we have to be extremely careful about this kind of approach.
    • STAY AWAY FROM ZOOTS THEY ...  •  6 mths ago
      Michelle Obama sure is an advocate for Childhood Obesity with her BBQ birthday bash of hot dogs and hamburgers, corn potato salad and fried with pies. She is sucha hypocrite. I hope she eats herself to death.
    • mark w  •  6 mths ago
      While it may be in good intentions, you have to stop and think about whether the government should have the right to take away our kids. I personally think that we already have enough government intervention in our private lives as is by telling us what to do all the time and how we should live our lives.

      You also have to keep in mind that not all kids are fat because of over eating or laziness. Some of them are fat because of medical issues or even genetics. On a side note, what if this happened to you? How would you feel?
    • Kornelia  •  6 mths ago
      Parents and children need to be educated about sound eating habits, and not punished. WTH!?

      Education begins when a child is conceived and ends when life stops. . . .
    • Toto  •  6 mths ago
      Learn to cook, stop eating 99% of the prepared food from the store and restaurants. As someone asked me one time do you trust Mother Nature or the chemist.
    • CastleGreySkull  •  6 mths ago
      Yes they should lose Parental rights if they (kids) are obese!!!! That's no way to grow up....
    • Uncle  •  7 mths ago
      We should have a Spartan way of handling these kind of problems. Make them be able fight effectively, and be smart. I.e sports. That is the use of friends
    • Georgi W  •  7 mths ago
      Wouldn't we be better off putting PE back in the schools and making it mandatory? and how about recess where the kids can run around and play ball or play on the monkey bars.
    • mich!  •  7 mths ago
      "Should the ignorant people on here that seem to think blacks are the scum of the earth get their kids taken away too so they cant pass their ignorance to them!" NO NO, there are so many white #$%$ that they need to have brains installed.
    • Cristina  •  7 mths ago
      this mother lost custody of her 14 year old son who weighted 555 lbs and still said "i worked 2 jobs...and it was easier to buy her son fast food". i am a single mother and i myself work 2 jobs and i still make the time to cook for my daughter and not buy her any fast food or take out. In other words she said it herself...she is "LAZY". this b**** rather kill her son from high cholesterol, diabetes, breathing problems all because she was f***ing LAZY to cook a nutritional meal for her son. a nutritional meal does NOT require 1hr of cooking first of all. Instead of taking her son out for a walk she had him stuffing himself with hot dogs, double cheeseburgers, soda, chips, fried chicken, fries, cookies, cakes, etc. You parents who your kids are obese it's not their fault it's the parents fault for being plain "LAZY". First of all you train your child to eat vegetables and all nutrional foods since they are toddlers and you always teach them they don't get to open that fridge without asking that is why children take whatever they want from that fridge (cookies, candy, soda, juice, chips, etc.), so when it's meal time they won't even eat because they are full and hyper from all that other crap that parents let them eat.

      First of all parents, how about you stop buying soda, cookies, chips, fast food and start buying water, vegetables, grains...you know more nutrional for your kids. also, start taking your kids out for a walk...how about you involve them in sports activities instead TV, computer, videogames.
    [ [ [['Dekraai', 10]], 'http://news.yahoo.com/photos/mourners-remember-seal-beach-shooting-victims-1318620627-slideshow/', 'Click image to see more photos', 'http://l.yimg.com/a/p/us/news/editorial/3/2c/32c8e92d889f42edb719cb5257afdf4e.jpeg', '461', ' ', 'Reuters/Lori Shepler', ], [ [['iPhone 4SXXXXXXX', 11]], 'http://news.yahoo.com/photos/thousands-line-up-for-apple-s-iphone-4s-1318602841-slideshow/', 'Click image to see more photos', 'http://l.yimg.com/a/p/us/news/editorial/f/4f/f4f15e8f6f323f5386dc9fdf9e15dca8.jpeg', '500', ' ', 'AP/Kirsty Wigglesworth', ] ]
    [ [ [['basic norm that death is private', 6]], '28413590', '0' ], [ [['songwriter also saw a surge in sales for her debut album', 6]], '28413590', '1', 'Watch music videos from Whitney Houston ', 'on Yahoo! Music', 'http://music.yahoo.com' ], [ [['keyword', 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999]], 'videoID', '1', 'overwrite-pre-description', 'overwrite-link-string', 'overwrite-link-url' ] ]
    Loading...