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    Paul looks for delegates, respect in caucus states

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Ron Paul may not win the Republican nomination for president — he has yet to win a single state — but his strategy of trying to amass delegates in caucus states could land him a prominent role at the party's national convention this summer.

    Imagine this: A primetime speech at the GOP convention in which Paul criticizes American military action overseas and condemns the war on terror as an overreach of government authority at home. It's enough to make some Republicans cringe.

    But they may have little choice if they want to placate Paul's supporters and keep them from becoming a distraction at an event designed to promote party unity and showcase the nominee, whoever it is.

    "Paul is fascinating because good ol' Ron will say just about anything he wants to say at any particular time," said Dennis Goldford, a professor of politics at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa. "And the last thing you want somebody doing is going off message in primetime at a convention."

    With the exception of Maine, the Texas congressman hasn't come close to winning the popular vote in any of the first nine states to vote. However, campaign aides say their knowledge of caucus rules combined with the enthusiasm of Paul's supporters gives them a unique ability to take advantage of a process that could take several months to sort out.

    Paul's campaign manager, John Tate, said he is unsure how many delegates Paul has amassed in caucus states. But, he boldly predicted: "We are confident that when all is said and done and some of these caucus states finish their process that we will end up with either a good plurality or a majority of the delegates out of Maine, Iowa, Minnesota, Nevada, possibly Colorado."

    Paul echoed Tate's prediction for Iowa and Maine in a broadcast interview Sunday. "The bottom line is, who is going to get the delegates and we think we're doing pretty good," Paul said on CNN.

    Five caucus states have voted so far. In The Associated Press delegate count, Paul isn't projected to win any national delegates in Iowa, Colorado or Minnesota. He got five out of 28 in Nevada and 10 out of 21 in Maine.

    Romney leads the overall race for delegates with 123, followed by Santorum at 72, and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich at 32. Paul is in fourth place, according to the AP count, with 19 delegates. It takes 1,144 delegates to win the Republican nomination for president.

    Most primaries and some caucuses are binding, meaning delegates won by the candidates are pledged to support that candidate at the national convention this summer. Political parties in many caucus states, however, use a multistep process to award national delegates.

    In those states, The AP uses results from local caucuses to project the number of national delegates candidates would win if they are able to maintain the same level of support throughout the process. Those projections, however, can change because local caucuses are just the first step.

    In Iowa, for example, more than 120,000 caucus goers attended local caucuses on Jan. 3. At those caucuses, they voted in a straw poll for president in which Rick Santorum eked out a 34-vote win over Mitt Romney. Paul finished third, about 3,000 votes behind.

    The national media focused almost entirely on the straw poll results, but the real work was just beginning. After the straw poll was over, caucus-goers elected delegates to county conventions scheduled for March. Those conventions will elect delegates to congressional district conventions in April and the state GOP convention in June.

    Delegates to the GOP national convention in Tampa, Fla., will be selected at the congressional district and state conventions, and the outcome may look very different from the results of the Jan 3 vote.

    In most years, it doesn't matter because the party nominee is obvious by then, so the presumptive nominee gets all the delegates, regardless of who won in January.

    Paul's supporters, however, plan to promote their delegates at every level of the process, regardless of what happens in the national campaign, Tate said.

    "The ultimate goal is obviously still to win, to get enough delegates there to win the nomination," Tate said in an interview. "I think there's lot of secondary goals, to make sure that our and Dr. Paul's views are represented at the convention, represented in the platform."

    "We want to make sure that the Republican Party understands that we are a major part of the Republican Party," Tate added. "We're not to be overlooked; we're not to be taken for granted."

    It is not unusual for some losing candidates to have a role at the party's national convention. Hillary Rodham Clinton got a prominent speaking spot at the Democratic convention in 2008. But Clinton had waged an epic primary battle with then-candidate Barack Obama, and her speech was designed to help unify the party.

    Many of Paul's libertarian views dovetail nicely with mainstream Republican ideas on limited government and low taxes. But Paul breaks with much of his party when he talks about American intervention abroad and government efforts to fight terrorism at home.

    "Following the Constitution, don't police the world, don't participate in all this nation-building, cut spending, cut taxes, cut deficits — these are traditional Republican principles," said David Fischer, vice chairman of Paul's campaign in Iowa. "I consider the view of these Republicans who want to simply grow the size and scope of the government, that's outside of Republican mainstream."

    There is precedent for Paul winning delegates in caucus states where he lost the initial vote. In 2008, during Paul's first campaign for president, he finished a distant second in the Nevada caucuses, which Romney won with more than half the vote. At the GOP state convention three months later, Paul had so many supporters that he was poised to win some of Nevada's national delegates when party leaders abruptly shut down the convention.

    Later, the party's executive committee tried to appoint its own delegation to the national convention and Paul's supporters sued. The lawsuit failed but the two sides eventually reached a compromise that gave Paul some delegates to the national convention in St. Paul, Minn.

    Paul, however, didn't attend the 2008 convention. Instead, he held a rival rally in nearby Minneapolis.

    This year, it might be better to accommodate Paul and his supporters rather than try to shut them out, said Rich Galen, a GOP strategist and former Gingrich aide who is neutral in the 2012 race.

    Galen thinks Paul is guaranteed a speaking spot at the convention, and maybe a few concessions in the party platform, as long as they don't deviate too much from mainstream Republican positions.

    And what if Paul gets up at the convention and talks about slashing the military or repealing the Patriot Act?

    "That's just Ron Paul being Ron Paul," Galen said. "It would make the next morning's papers, but who cares?"

     
    • Cello  •  3 mths ago
      Ron Paul served his country in the military, is an MD from Duke, has been ideologically consistent for decades, and wants to restore our constitutional rights that have been taken away by prior administrations. What's not to love about him? I'm not a Republican, but he has my vote. Ron Paul 2012!
      • msd 3 mths ago
        I too am not a Republican or a Democrate because they no longer represent me. From now on, I will vote for only a person that I think supports best what I believe in and right now that person is Ron Paul.
      • Monsieur Jonas 3 mths ago
        And he has my vote!
      • Jeffrey L 3 mths ago
        If you vote for either Obama or Romney your throwing your vote away. Both are going to do the same thing, they're the same wolf with a different sheep pelt.
    • Daniel  •  3 mths ago
      "And the last thing you want somebody doing is going off message in primetime at a convention."

      Wrong. The last thing you want is starving and homeless families, the last thing you want is your currency debased, the last thing you want is sending your youth to unwinnable wars... the last thing you want is your country going to the dogs. Who cares about primetime at a convention when people are losing jobs and homes? Oh, right, politicians.
      • Belinda 3 mths ago
        Especially when their message is "less personal freedom and more war"!
      • Lee 3 mths ago
        Daniel, you have no future in politics. That's a good thing
      • James 3 mths ago
        Lee, you have no future. You are a NAZI!
    • daylene  •  Grand Rapids, Michigan  •  3 mths ago
      Take it from a Democrat: Ron Paul may be further right than any of the other candidates, so far right he is virtually Libertarian. But I would vote for him in an election, yes, even against a Democrat candidate. What he says just makes sense! One of my biggest problems with the current Republican mindset is that they give lip service to small government when their true agenda seems to be controlling your fear, controlling your morality, and protecting the rights of only the very rich. Ron Paul doesn't pander to any of that.
      • Mortepa 3 mths ago
        Right on! Ron Paul does not pander to political bias. He only does what he deems to be the "right thing to do", based solidly on our Constitution. The way it should be.
      • Cedric 3 mths ago
        Thank you for the open mind, dude.
      • Aubrey 3 mths ago
        Give Paul credit, he tells you exactly what he believes devil be damned. Whether you agree with him or not, you have to admit that kind of honesty in a politician is virtually unheard of.
    • Steve  •  Tucson, Arizona  •  3 mths ago
      Close to 1000 military veterans just marched on the White House and around DC in support of Ron Paul. You will find hardly any coverage for it.
      • Sarah celtic rose 3 mths ago
        Sad....But we can still cover him in are own town!!
        Lets get the word out!!!!!!!
      • Genous Conservitive 3 mths ago
        Wow... close to A THOUSAND?!?!?!?!?!?!? That's only 299,999,000 people short of the entire US population!! That's like 0.000003%!!!!!
      • SteffenB 3 mths ago
        cause its only a 1000 people? Heck theres a march going on in DC of people promoting mustaches and even thats got a million participants
    • Helmkat  •  3 mths ago
      "And what if Paul gets up at the convention and talks about slashing the military or repealing the Patriot Act?

      "That's just Ron Paul being Ron Paul," Galen said. "It would make the next morning's papers, but who cares?"

      Who cares? we better all care.

      Romney, Santorum and Gingrich will only give America the same ole same ole that we have had forever and a day.

      Do you want real change? you better hope to see Paul in the Oval office...

      ..
      • msd 3 mths ago
        Don't you all think it is time to stop thinking Republican or Democrat and pay attention to what a person says? While I don't agree with everything Ron Paul says, I do agree with the majority and at least he say the same thing every time. He is my only choice.
      • USAF Vet 3 mths ago
        the Patriot Act and NDAA need to go. along with anything like SOPA.,
      • Zachary 3 mths ago
        ACTA, SOPA, PIPA, H.R. 1981, the patriot act, and a slew of other laws, and acts aimed at controlling the lives of americans and running this country into the ground in the name of money and power at the expense of the people who live in it. George Orwell's fictional villains, ain't got #$%$ on these pieces of human trash running the country now.
    • K  •  Lagrange, Georgia  •  3 mths ago
      Who cares? I'll tell you who cares...all the regular people in the USA who are tired of lying politicians and congressmen saying they represent we the people but clearly only have their own personal interests at heart, that's who!
    • CS-Texas  •  3 mths ago
      I live in Ron Paul district here in Texas. His local office is just about 5 miles from my house. He has always been the most honest broker in the Republican field by far. Always speaks from the heart and never changes positions. I'm a democrat so I don't always agree when he goes into purest Libertarian talk because its not practical. But, on the wars, spending money here instead of nation-building, most all of his constitutional beliefs I share 100%. Rick Santorum...religious nut. Gingrich...sleezy nut. Romney....poster child of the 1%. Ron speks the truth to power so much...the establishment gets nervous.
    • Jason Lajoie  •  Zurich, Switzerland  •  3 mths ago
      If Americans neglect to elect Ron Paul yet again, they will truly deserve what becomes of them.
    • moby  •  3 mths ago
      Wow. The headline was "Why Ron Paul may have the last laugh". I really hate how they make it seem like all he wants to do is speak at the convention and tick everyone off. Believe it or not, Dr. Paul is actually running for president.
    • TimelessWanderer  •  3 mths ago
      America first!
    • Chris  •  3 mths ago
      Ron Paul is the only candidate who the government it scared of. They know he is the one who would make changes that would change the American Government as we know it. All of the changes he brings up are great changes, that will make life for everyone better.The government and media knows this. That's why he is always put off as the "crazy old guy candidate."
    • SteveH  •  Fort Worth, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      With decades of consistency and integrity on the record, Ron Paul cannot be influenced by lobbyists or bought off by the wall st bankers. He is a man with basically “nothing to lose” who will fight the wash dc “insiders” to get our country back on track.
      He will fight for term limits on congress and a balanced budget amendment. He will cut as much govt waste as he can. He will bring our troops home from wars that ended long ago. He will secure our borders and fight to cut all govt assistance to illegals.
      If our great country is to survive these very challenging times, then we need to elect a man who cannot be swayed by the political winds. A man who is honest and consistent. A true American patriot who will fight for the middle and lower classes and not the mega-rich elite, wall st or the bankers!!
      Ron Paul 2012!!
    • Jesse  •  Martinez, California  •  3 mths ago
      Ron Paul is the only one who makes sense outta all these other shady characters!!!! what wrong with ppl in america voting for any other than Ron Paul??!!! its like ppl are really brainwashed and have never known what a free country could look like and for an awesome president who is actually for the ppls freedoms and who fully backs our constitution....Ron Paul is the only one with a solid plan that will work!! minimalizing our failing LARGE government, squashing the monitary system, ZERO TAXES!!! wake up america!!! its all about Ron Paul or just continue to flush this nation down the toilet!!!! thats what will happen....
    • M  •  3 mths ago
      They hate Ron Paul because he's not part of the hijacking of the Republican Party by self-righteous, self-interested lowlifes.
    • gocleve99  •  3 mths ago
      "Paul is fascinating because good ol' Ron will say just about anything he wants to say at any particular time"

      Anything he wants? No. The unvarnished truth, YES. Frankly, many in both parties cringe at the truth. He is the only candidate in the solar system with an ounce of integrity, and all polls indicate that he is the only one who can beat Obama. Either he gets the nomination, or you watch one of the other clowns running for the GOP nod get massacred in November. Considering that nothing would change with anyone other than Paul, that's fine with me. This time, its Ron Paul or not at all.
    • Elijh  •  3 mths ago
      The ONLY candidate, that has put Americas needs above his own, and his message has not changed from week to week.....and has the most loyal following including the military
    • CW  •  Birmingham, Alabama  •  3 mths ago
      WE LOVE YOU RON !!! and thanks so much for keeping up the good fight
    • Ron  •  3 mths ago
      This is repulsive to me. We all know the reason they are sidestepping Ron Paul. They all know he is the one that will shake up the government and make some changes and they know what will happen to them and their corporate backers. Their money supply will dry up and their power structure will disappear. They may even have to start working for a living instead of sucking the people dry of their hard earned money.
    • Whackey  •  3 mths ago
      I care!
      Go Dr. Ron Paul!!
    • Mr Coto  •  New Orleans, Louisiana  •  3 mths ago
      This article goes out of it's way to project what the Republic Party's "mainstream views" are. As though they know. Or are they just trying to dictate? The last line in this article says it all about what the establishment Republicans think about us "... who cares?"

      Since when is continuing war a Republican mainstream view? Especially illegal wars started on a pack of lies. There can be only one reason for this pathetic putrid pundit of propaganda to say this, they're protecting the profits of the elite foreign central bankers that make money off of putting us in these wars.

      I refuse to believe that a majority of Republicans want to keep maintaining foreign wars, or the phony "war on terror" at home. This fraud is being perpetrated by the lying cretins in our government that fostered these wars upon us through their false-flag attacks. And the only reason they are alive right now and not swinging from a rope is because of a sycophant Sewer Stream Media that keeps the lies alive, and the power of the elites to corrupt our judicial process.
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