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    Payroll tax negotiations off to slow start

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Negotiators on Capitol Hill agreed Wednesday to try to extend a payroll tax cut worth about $1,000 this year for a typical worker through the end of the year.

    But they remain far apart on how to pay for the extension, and for jobless benefits for millions, without swelling the national debt.

    Working in a rare open meeting, a House-Senate panel Wednesday began its negotiations on the payroll tax and jobless benefits measure — core components of President Barack Obama's jobs agenda — by signaling progress on second-tier issues regarding overhauling unemployment insurance. But the talks soon ran aground over House GOP proposals to permit states to require unemployed people to pass drug tests to receive benefits or get high school diplomas.

    A Feb. 29 deadline looms but the negotiating panel chair, Rep. Dave Camp, R-Mich., is proceeding methodically and has yet to focus the talks, at least publicly, on the central issue: how to find more than $150 billion in deficit savings through some combinations of spending cuts, new fees and closures of tax loopholes.

    "You've got to crawl before you can walk," Camp said.

    Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., the lead negotiator for Democrats, hinted of potential problems ahead in assembling a bipartisan package of deficit cutting proposals to pay for the full payroll tax extension. Baucus said negotiators might be forced to accept a shorter renewal of the tax cut.

    The 2-percentage-point cut in the payroll tax adds about $20 a week to the paycheck of a worker making a $50,000 annual salary, while jobless benefits average about $300 a week. Democrats argue that the two measures are pumping billions into an economy that's still suffering from a lack of consumer demand. Obama seems to have the upper hand politically, and Republicans are going along, though without much enthusiasm.

    At the same time, the panel is grappling with how to address almost a 30-percent scheduled cut in the fees that Medicare pays to doctors. The cut is the product a flawed funding-formula that dates back to 1997, but the rapidly growing cost of fixing the mess is now in the range of $300 billion over 10 years. Lawmakers in both parties are grabbing at war savings to claim the fix won't add to deficits still exceeding $1 trillion a year.

    The negotiators have adopted a cooperative tone that contrasts sharply with the vitriol of last year, but the panel is going to have to pick up the pace to meet a deadline just four weeks away.

    Major disagreements over House GOP add-ons like a provision to block new federal rules on incinerators and industrial boilers and a potential Republican bid to try to use the legislation to permit construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline are likely to be resolved by talks involving the White House and higher-ranking lawmakers like House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio.

    In December, the House passed a yearlong extension financed by freezing the pay of federal workers and requiring them to contribute more to their pensions, cutting money to implement Obama's health care law, forcing higher-income seniors to pay higher Medicare premiums and blocking illegal immigrants from collecting child tax credit refunds.

    Senate Democratic and Republicans leaders, however, failed to agree on a measure that might quickly pass in the days before Christmas and the chamber instead advanced a two-month extension. In private talks, Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada objected to numerous House provisions, including cuts affecting federal workers.

    Reid also publicly came out Tuesday against the GOP effort to block illegal immigrants from getting refundable child tax credits. A Treasury Department study last year found that illegal immigrants were paid $4.2 billion in such refunds claimed on their 2010 tax returns, but efforts to stop the practice have caused an eruption in the Democratic-leaning Hispanic community.

    Reid signaled he'll resist the idea, though his opposition is not the last word on the matter.

    "I just think the child tax credit is working just fine and there's no need to punish children," Reid said.

    Talks Wednesday revealed a continuing impasse over whether to keep the maximum jobless benefit at 99 weeks in states with the highest unemployment rates. Lower jobless rates already mean that the maximum benefit is dropping to 79 weeks. Republicans are seeking to cut 20 additional weeks of benefits from the program, effectively making the maximum benefit 59 weeks.

    Democrats oppose the move and signaled they'll adopt a hard line as well against GOP proposals to require jobless people to enroll in GED classes to qualify for benefits or permit states to require them to pass drug tests. Democrats said that many jobless people are older workers with established skills and that there are long waiting lists for GED classes.

    On drug testing for jobless benefits, Republicans said it's simply unfair for taxpayers to provide money to people with drug habits — and who would fail the drug tests required for many new hires.

    "It is time to stop subsidizing drug use through federal benefits," said Rep. Kevin Brady, R-Texas.

    Democrats said most states disqualify people fired for drug use from obtaining jobless benefits anyway.

    Democrats did signal they'll go along with a proposal tightening requirements for people receiving jobless benefits to look for work but revealed no details.

     

    51 comments

    • Kizichka  •  3 mths ago
      When they forced the Bush Tax Cut Extension through nobody seemed worried about how IT was going to be paid for?????
      • Rick 3 mths ago
        The Bush tax cuts were enacted in 2003. Why did government tax revenue increase every year from 2003 to 2007? Hmmmm. That's a mystery.
      • Cogito 3 mths ago
        Rick...You have to love these imbicles.

        Bush cut the top marginal tax rate from 39.6% to 35%. The economy added 8,471,000 jobs, Gross Domestic Product grew 46.56%, and federal tax revenue increased 24.63%.
    • mudslideslim  •  Austin, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      Notice how quick they are to take your hard earned money, but are slower than hell giving just a portion back.
    • Ed  •  New Braunfels, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      VOTE WISELY ON NOVEMBER 2, 2012

      While walking down the street one day a Corrupt Senator (that may be redundant) was tragically hit by a car and died.

      His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.

      "Welcome to heaven," says St.. Peter. "Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you."

      "No problem, just let me in," says the Senator.

      "Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from the higher ups. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity."

      "Really?, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven," says the Senator.

      "I'm sorry, but we have our rules."

      And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell.

      The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course.

      In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.

      Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people.

      They played a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and the finest champagne.

      Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who is having a good time dancing and telling jokes.

      They are all having such a good time that before the Senator realizes it, it is time to go.

      Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises.

      The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens in heaven where

      St. Peter is waiting for him, "Now it's time to visit heaven...

      So, 24 hours passed with the Senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.

      "Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity."

      The Senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: "Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell."

      So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell...

      Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage.

      He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls to the ground.

      The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulders.

      "I don't understand," stammers the Senator. "Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?"

      The devil smiles at him and says,
      "Yesterday we were campaigning,

      Today, you voted.."

      Vote wisely on
      November 2, 2012
      • Kathy 3 mths ago
        LOVE IT!
      • Cindy 3 mths ago
        ED...Thank You! You made me smile today.....
    • Fed-up  •  Kennewick, Washington  •  3 mths ago
      $100 return to working people and $10.000 for each senator. Theves!.
    • John S  •  Newark, New Jersey  •  3 mths ago
      All I hope for is, in November we have a competent president instead of obama.
    • debbies  •  3 mths ago
      Why can't a bill stand on it's own? Vote on a bill on it's own merit and don't attach so much crap from other bills that usually lead to it's demise.......
    • Michael  •  Los Angeles, California  •  3 mths ago
      the middle calss needs it own super pac to compete with the oil companies and banks. How about a straight up and down vote in the house and senate on the bill, so we can make up our minds who to replace in congress.
    • Ahmad  •  3 mths ago
      Here we go again folks. This will come down right to the wire. It maybe 2012 but nothing has changed in Congress.
      • Rick 3 mths ago
        Congress already did their part - they passed a 1 year extension of the payroll tax cut back in December, and your friendly neighborhood Senate said "no way." If you are going to blame someone, at least blame the folks who are actually doing the obstructing.
    • ED  •  Washington, District of Columbia  •  3 mths ago
      Here we go again.
    • Cuddles  •  3 mths ago
      More political poker is being played.
    • Thinker  •  Los Angeles, California  •  3 mths ago
      In 1913 the government established a permanent tax code. They sold it to the people that they were only going to tax the rich; people voted for it and it established the tax code that we have today. Never—never trust the government. The 'glass half empty' groups continue to whine. You will not get more by forcing others to take less. Don’t be mislead, the government can’t fix things. Giving money to the government is not the same as giving it to the people.
    • Dave B  •  3 mths ago
      I wasn't even aware of the fact that illegal aliens could file for taxes. I learn something new everyday, unfortunately most of what I learn by reading the news really #$%$ me off.
      • george 3 mths ago
        don't watch fox news, they're the most bigoted, conservative well Bought out, the establishment has to offer, they only give approved disinformation
    • epd537  •  3 mths ago
      Oh NO! Not time for another Super Committee.They seem to do so well.
    • Jim  •  3 mths ago
      The really unfortunate part of this story is buried way down in paragraph 6. The fact that Medicare reimbursements to providers will be cut 30% if they don't put another band-aid on the stupid rule they passed 15 years ago. This is the first time I've seen a dollar figure describing what this will cost taxpayers. The system is broke and neither party has the courage to admit it let alone do something about it.
    • BlindDeafDumb  •  Kansas City, Missouri  •  3 mths ago
      Welcome to the new Greece…MITT’S CONFUSED…OBAMA’s DRAMA..BOEHNER CRYs..Young and Old Americans you are being played for a sucker again…and again by the Democrats and Republicans..see a reduction of $1,000 in your Social Security tax now..give up $10,000s in future retirement benefits…Two or twelve more months of extending the payroll tax cut with no replenishments to the fund? So Obama, Reid, Newt, Mitt, McConnell, the Speaker and other Republicans and Democrats are going to screw 1,000,000s of current and future social security recipients by reducing the payroll tax needed for social security for a total of 24 months and over $220 billion in under funding. The story they keep selling you is SS is dead..You should throw out all politicans trying to brainwash you on this issue.

      Is killing off SS the best solution they can come up with? How about permanently lowering the federal income tax rate tables for people earning $75,000 or less by 2-3% and make corresponding reductions in spending?
    • Wayne  •  Topeka, Kansas  •  3 mths ago
      We also need to quit subsidizing every farm commodity, ethanol, oil, rich commercial property owners with their write-offs for depreciation, etc, etc, etc.
    • TheTerminatorFan  •  Port St Lucie, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      What a complicated mess. I admire people who know how figure that mess out. I get a headache just reading it!
    • PattiW  •  3 mths ago
      Oops, some thing wrong with this statement, "It is time to stop subsidizing drug use through federal benefits," said Rep. Kevin Brady, R-Texas." Does he mean that people using drugs are being subsidiized?...Are the politicians who get free drugs on their health care program--which they approve for themselves...being subsidized with our taxes? Big parma companies are "using drugs to get tax dollars/with federal money to do research and using federal funds..does he mean this has to stop....Maybe the FDA, who is subsidized to oversee the drug abuse problems should come under this rule. After all, they make the rules with subsidized funds--our tax money.
    • Richard  •  Valparaiso, Indiana  •  3 mths ago
      Give me a joint session of congress, and immunity from prosecution, and 12 hrs. inside with locked doors, and I promise you a settlement!
    • Bob  •  3 mths ago
      Hello, it's election time... Too late. We know you'll take it back anyhow. All of your butts are on the line.
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