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    Poll: 1 in 3 vets sees Iraq, Afghan wars as wastes

    WASHINGTON (AP) — One in three U.S. veterans of the post-9/11 military believes the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were not worth fighting, and a majority think that after 10 years of combat America should be focusing less on foreign affairs and more on its own problems, according to an opinion survey released Wednesday.

    The findings highlight a dilemma for the Obama administration and Congress as they struggle to shrink the government's huge budget deficits and reconsider defense priorities while trying to keep public support for remaining involved in Iraq and Afghanistan for the longer term.

    Nearly 4,500 U.S. troops have died in Iraq and about 1,700 in Afghanistan. Combined war costs since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks have topped $1 trillion.

    The poll results presented by the Pew Research Center portray post-9/11 veterans as proud of their work, scarred by warfare and convinced that the American public has little understanding of the problems that wartime service has created for military members and their families.

    The survey also showed that post-9/11 veterans are more likely than Americans as a whole to call themselves Republicans and to disapprove of President Barack Obama's performance as commander in chief. They also are more likely than earlier generations of veterans to have no religious affiliation.

    The Pew Research Center, a nonpartisan organization that studies attitudes and trends, called the study the first of its kind. The results were based on two surveys conducted between late July and mid-September. One polled 1,853 veterans, including 712 who had served in the military after 9/11 but are no longer on active duty. Of the 712 post-9/11 veterans, 336 served in Iraq or Afghanistan. The other polled 2,003 adults who had not served in the military.

    Nearly half of post-9/11 veterans said deployments strained their relationship with their spouses, and a similar share reported problems with their children. On the other hand, 60 percent said they and their families benefited financially from having served abroad in a combat zone. Asked for a single word to describe their experiences, the war veterans offered a mixed picture: "rewarding," ''nightmare," ''eye opening," ''lousy."

    There are about 98,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan, where the conflict began with a U.S.-led invasion on Oct. 7, 2001. Obama campaigned for the presidency in 2008 on getting out of Iraq and ramping up the military campaign in Afghanistan. He is on track to have all U.S. troops out of Iraq by the end of this year, and in July he announced that he would pull 10,000 troops out of Afghanistan this year and 23,000 more by next September.

    The Pew survey found that veterans are ambivalent about the net value of the wars, although they generally were more positive about Afghanistan, which has been a more protracted but less deadly conflict for U.S. forces. One-third of post-9/11 veterans said neither war was worth the sacrifices; that was the view of 45 percent in the separate poll of members of the general public.

    Fifty percent of veterans said Afghanistan was worth it, whereas the poll of civilians put it at 41 percent.

    Among veterans, 44 percent said Iraq was worth it. That compares with 36 percent in the poll of civilians.

    Of the surveyed former service members who were seriously wounded or knew someone who was killed or seriously wounded, 48 percent said the war in Iraq was worth fighting, compared with 36 percent of those veterans who had no personal exposure to casualties.

    Exposure to casualties had an even larger impact on attitudes toward the war in Afghanistan. Fifty-five percent of those exposed to casualties said Afghanistan has been worth the cost to the U.S., whereas 40 percent of those who were not exposed to casualties held that same view.

    Pew said its survey results found "isolationist inclinations" among post-9/11 war veterans. About 6-in-10 said the United States should pay less attention to problems overseas and instead concentrate on problems at home. In a Pew survey conducted earlier this year, a similar share of the general public agreed.

    The survey also reflected what many view as a troublesome cultural gap between the military and the general public. Although numerous polls have shown that Americans hold the military in high regard, the respondents in the Pew research acknowledged a lack of understanding of what military life entails.

    Only 27 percent of adult civilians said the public understands the problems facing those in uniform, and the share of veterans who said so is even lower — 21 percent.

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    Robert Burns can be reached on Twitter at http://twitter.com/robertburnsAP

     

    5,591 comments

    • otto  •  7 mths ago
      I'll probably catch hell for what im about to post. But you know it has got to be bad after 11 years of fighting that our men and women in the armed services are starting to questioning and wondering if this war is worth all the death,pain,and suffering. That it has brought on the families of our troops. For this war that has cost the american people $1 trillion dollars over these 11 years is way out there. All i can say is that i hope our men and women make it home safely in one piece.
      • Jason W 7 mths ago
        I don't think your statement deserves hell, it's effectively common sense
      • Ilona 7 mths ago
        Vote RON PAUL he wants to end the wars and bring them home ASAP.Also he receives more donations from the enlisted soldiers than ALL the other candidates combined, Including Obama. The troops know he is the one to support. RON PAUL 2012.
      • falconry 7 mths ago
        Far more than $1 trillion, why do I keep seeing this figure over and over on these boards?
    • Peter  •  7 mths ago
      Sadam has been gone for years, we got Bin Laden, the mission is acomplished at a major cost of American lives. It is over. It is time to take the remaining American soldiers out of harms way and bring them home. They have suffered enough and we have paid enough in the blood of our youth and the resources of our nation.
      • megz 7 mths ago
        agree!! i think we have sacrificed all these lives for nothing. because these terrorist leader may be gone, but someone will keep taking their place. it won't end. and also, they are defending what they believe in which americans are so trying to change.
      • Stephanie 7 mths ago
        The media is not reporting it but Obama has already started drawing down the troops.
      • sheik yerbouti 7 mths ago
        A friend of mine just got back from Iraq. He was working on an oil deal. They backed off because of the corruption. EVERYONE in govt there is on the take!
    • Arthur W  •  7 mths ago
      No war since WWII has been worth our cost but we never seem to learn
      • bill cooper,s gist 7 mths ago
        welcome to the new world order
      • charley 7 mths ago
        true
      • Craig L 7 mths ago
        I said it a million times. But noooo, u not allowed to say anything negative about the wars or vets in this country.
    • Norman  •  7 mths ago
      Our leaders are wrong, they believe we have a responsibility to maintain our way of life by forcing it upon others. It never worked and won't.
      • American Patriot 7 mths ago
        It was never about forcing our way of life on them. Look up "Taliban in Texas" for the truth.
      • Arabian Knights 7 mths ago
        you are talking about all of them since Wilson... Just try having a conversation with someone from State- they are flat out insane.
      • Hende 7 mths ago
        you dont understand economics or your a traitor
    • Capt  •  7 mths ago
      Ask the people how we feel, bring em home Now!
      • Rollaids 7 mths ago
        Imagine a private security firm vvith any number of military trained special forces technicians; men and vvomen from around the vvorld, fluent in languages and customs, able to blend in and move vvell belovv radar. such a group given intel from vvorld governments could hunt dovvn and eradicate any target almost at vvill and undetected.

        4,500 U.S. troops have died in Iraq and about 1,700 in Afghanistan (((A stagering human cost to kill one man)))

        war costs since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks have topped $1 trillion. ((( An absurd cost to kill one man)))

        I have long advocated a vvorld anti terrorism fund; vvherein 1BILLION DOLLARS is placed into an international fund. The 1 Billion dollars vvould be paid upon the termination of a given target, Say Bin Laden. Private armies vvould hunt and kill or capture the target and recieve thier pay. Far less money, fevver casualties. No need for trillion dollar millitary budgets.
        when anyTYRANT starts his rant, vvorld courts vvould simply issue a vvarant and the tyrant is dispatched by the nevv bread of bounty hunters. Done deal.

        1 Billion for a small group of say 10 or 20 men vvould make instant millionaires looking for more tyrants.

        The COSTCO of international tyrant exterminators
    • Mickey C.  •  7 mths ago
      I have to agree with most of your posts, but the one thing that should be said here is that the country that we invade to help does not want to fight their own battles They don't seem to care whether we are there or not, only to spend and waste billions of dollars of tax payers money and not to mention killing of our men and women who signed up to defend their freedom. I am a Vietnam Vet and I saw the same thing there, the people didnt care. President Johnson at the time had the power to stop the conflict with one bomb. But he chose not to because of politics.. Politics always enters in to these things far to often. Our men and women get killed and wounded and for what, no appreciation from that country. We need to stop fighting other countries wars or conflicts and tend to our own. We need to tend to the sick, elderly, homeless, unemployed and stop wasting money. Our government needs to listen to the people, if not then as Donald Trump puts it "YOUR FIRED" The fat cats in congress need to stop fighting among themselves and work for the people, after all that's why we elected them in the first place. Lets put our politicians on the front lines and see how fast our men and women come home...............
    • patrick w  •  7 mths ago
      #$%$ Duh, i thought the reason Obama got elected was to end both the wars? I am a soldier when the hell are we going to be done.
    • hockey12824  •  7 mths ago
      well it is even more disgusting that all of these 18,19,20 year olds are over there maybe E1-E4 making what 34,000 and that being tax free getting shot at on a daily basis with the fear of getting blown up always in the back of their minds. and then you have the politicians sitting here making well over 100,000 a year never being never deployed or possibly never through any military training in their lives... these same people also get 100% of retirement after only a 4 year term and the budget cuts they are looking at is taking away a 20yr vets retirement and benefits?!!? now what kind of #$%$ is that!? i think it should be quite clear as to where all the budget cuts should be? they just keep taking away from education funds so we can keep electing these retards into office! lets look at the logic here, the very people in charge of the worlds greatest military have never served a day in their lives??? and we elected these people!!! so for everybody complaining about the government, well we the people have put them there!!! and well if your so good at noticing a problem, do you have a solution? well atleast one thats logical?
    • Duuurp  •  7 mths ago
      Sad because our incompetent and paranoid government is not able to take care of their American's ... they rather worry about their money, vacations and themselves and their families. The government can care a less about the HERO's that fought a political war that could have been avoided if it was not to avert America's attention on their screw ups in office. I will not vote for anyone who is currently in office, from the president (we all know about that #$%$ to the house of representatives (who represent themselves) to the senate (who get paid to fly to Washington and do nothing). I hope you all are on the same page ... Lets see them take a 10-20% decrease on their wages, take away their retirement (like Social Security), use their retirement to pay some bills, and take away the lifetime medical, 80% wage for life and any other perk program that they voted in for themselves.
    • fotoman1133406  •  7 mths ago
      Guys,
      I'm willing to bet, this is goin to grow; more and more. I find it interesting, we the public are SUPPOSED to "blindly" go/do what the government says. O K, government, you want us(the American public) to "follow". Then PROVE that you(U S government) are worthy. Open up the secrets... U F O, whether there IS gold bullion in FT KNOX etc..........
    • Brooklyn  •  7 mths ago
      Ron Paul is getting more donations from people who work for the military than either President Obama or any of the other Republican candidates combined! . . RON PAUL SALUTES THE MILITARY regardless if you're straight or gay. Thank you for your service.
      RON PAUL 2012
    • get the hate out your blo ...  •  7 mths ago
      i think the president should of kept his word instead all bets off troop not coming home in six month that would of been less killing i think and money spend and econmy would of been fine or was it about bin linden come on pay attention people
    • Chic Miramar  •  7 mths ago
      Tired of politicians speaking on both sides of the mouth? . . Promising to end wars, yet fail to deliver when in power? . . Tired of borrowing money to fund foreign wars? If you think US should pay less attention to problems overseas and instead concentrate on problems at home, there is a real choice. ●●● RON PAUL 2012 ●●●
    • A Yahoo! User  •  7 mths ago
      I always read these comments on the articles but I have never left one. I am currently over here on my 6th deployment since Sept 11th. I definitely felt that we were here for a reason during my first couple of deployments, but I see it very differently now. As someone stated in an earlier post, these countries will not take any of this help to improve themselves in the long run after we leave (if we leave). Our tax dollars are funding everything over here. You would be surprised how many wasted and overly priced contracts the military has over here with the locals/US. Another big waste that I see is the money that the government is spending on these contractors. I don’t think I have met one individual yet that makes less than a $160K a year and most are well over $200K with bonuses. Soldiers are here making their normal pay with minimal benefits. Our country is hurting for funds and we just keep wasting it over here on something I don’t think we will ever benefit from in the long run. We are creating an economy for the people over here and it’s probably going to back fire on us in the long run. Think about if we were dumping all this money into our country!!! Google this if you get a chance. How much money has the US spent on the Iraq/Afghan war? It’s unreal, and we wonder why our nation is struggling. Are we ever going to wake up?
    • kareem  •  7 mths ago
      Americas biggest enemy is not Iraq or Afghanistan but rather itself.
    • Sam  •  7 mths ago
      I was in Helmand Province for 11 hellish months. I have been in the Marines for 10 years been to some of the worst places on earth, but Afghanistan was by far the bigest hole of them all, but 30 years of war will do it. The Afghan people don't give 2 craps about anything, at least in Iraq the people knew the war would help them in the end. I cannot stress enough how important it is to get our troops out of this hole. I am tired of losing friends for people and a country that doesn't give a crap.
    • Good Times  •  7 mths ago
      We have wasted billions of dollars (millions ended up funding Taliban and militant arms), lost thousands of lives, and fought an invisible enemy who lives amongst the population while our hands are tied with rules of engagement. Malaki, Karzai - can you say corrupt? Bring our troops home!
    • Curly  •  7 mths ago
      Worth it in terms of what? Bring our troops home now. Stop spending our tax dollars rebuilding their countries and fix Amercia instead.
    • Terry  •  7 mths ago
      The US needs to take care of it own before other countries,get out of the war
      Bring all the troops home,NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • hams  •  7 mths ago
      i later felt the same way after serving in combat in Vietnam..what the hell was so important in that country that cost 58,000 American lives + wounded and maimed..1.1 million Viet Cong dead + 600,000 wounded and maimed..NOTHING..there are American companies doing business today in that country?..what a huge waste of young men and women lives..to add more pain, when it was over those soldiers weren't even WELCOMED HOME..thank your Congress person for starting these Wars for whatever their reason's for which you will NEVER be told the truth
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