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    Post-9/11, biggest terror threat is underground

    NEW YORK (AP) — It's the morning rush in the Times Square subway station, a routine convergence of humanity and mass transit that makes New York City hum. Mixing seamlessly with subway riders are New York Police Department officers with heavy body armor and high-powered rifles, commanders in blue NYPD polo shirts carrying smart phone-size radiation detectors and a panting police dog named Sabu.

    "This is the new normal," Inspector Scott Shanley of the NYPD's Counterterrorism Division says. "The only people who sometimes get raised up are tourists."

    Since terrorists brought down the twin towers on Sept. 11, 2001, subways have been bombed in terror attacks across the world, including in Madrid, London and this spring in Minsk, Belarus. The possibility that New York's sprawling, porous and famously gritty subway system could be next has become a constant worry — leading to a new normal of suspicious package alerts, bomb-sniffing dogs, cameras trained on commuters and passengers listening to the missive, "if you see something, say something."

    The campaigns encouraging residents to report suspicious activity strike Manhattan writer Anne Nelson, 57, as Orwellian.

    "New York is about expression and life and vibrancy," she said, walking through Times Square. "It's not about living in an atmosphere of fear."

    But authorities here believe a serious attack on the 24-hour subway system with more than 400 stations, would potentially cripple the city in ways worse than the Sept. 11, 2001 attack — a concern shared by U.S. cities and countries reliant on mass transit and viewed as enemies by terrorists.

    The human toll — going back to Aum Shinrikyo cult's 1995 nerve gas attack that killed 12 people and injured thousands in Tokyo's subways — has already been devastating. In Madrid, Islamic militants set off 10 backpack bombs on the commuter rail network in 2004, killing 191 people and wounding more than 1,800; in London, another suicide bomb strike killed 52 commuters and injured 700 in the city's deadliest attack since World War II; and earlier this year in Minsk, a remote-controlled bomb killed 12 people and wounded 200 in the city's main subway station.

    In New York, no one has pulled off an attack, but there have been plenty of scares.

    Last year, a homegrown al-Qaida operative, Najibullah Zazi, pleaded guilty to plotting a suicide bomb attack timed for rush hour to cause the most bloodshed. The former airport shuttle driver told a judge his plan was "to conduct a martyrdom operation on the subway lines in Manhattan." The NYPD also foiled a 2004 plot to bomb Manhattan's Herald Square subway station. And there were reports in that al-Qaida considered a cyanide attack on the subway system in 2003.

    New York's subway system, the largest in the U.S., has more than 465 far-flung stations, most with multiple entrances, and 800 miles (1,290 kilometers) of track. Last year, it carried 5.2 million riders on the average weekday — more than double the number of travelers who pass through U.S. airports each day.

    "It's really a potentially very vulnerable environment — one that you can't totally protect," said William Bratton, a security firm executive who's headed New York and Los Angeles' police departments and was chief of the New York City transit police. "That's the reality of it. ... It's a unique challenge."

    Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly has said the NYPD tries to meet that challenge by going to "extraordinary lengths" in the subways "to make our presence seen and felt in different ways, giving would-be terrorists and common criminals cause to think twice."

    Pre-2001, covering that ground meant mostly fighting conventional crime — from robberies and assaults to fare beating and drug possession.

    Post, the department has asked its 2,500 uniformed and plainclothes transit officers to fight terror as well.

    Officers have been given training in how to spot terror suspects casing the subways. They've also been instructed to be on the alert for people walking in a stiff manner, sweating heavily and talking to themselves — signs of a potential suicide bomber.

    The counterterror arsenal includes more than 30 bomb-sniffing dogs; silent alarms and motion detectors to prevent tampering with ventilation systems to make a chemical or biological attack more lethal; and a vast system of security cameras wired with live feeds from Penn Station, Grand Central Terminal and Herald Square.

    More new normal: Random bag checks — once challenged in court as a civil rights violation — are done tens of thousands of times each year in the subways with barely any complaints. The department uses high-tech detection devices to screen riders for peroxides or nitrates common in homemade explosives, sometimes with the help of agents on loan from the Transportation Safety Administration.

    The bag searches are part of life in Boston and in Washington, D.C., where a Virginia man admitted this year to joining what he thought was an al-Qaida plot to bomb Washington's Metrorail system. The "see something, say something" campaign" started in New York is now a mantra aboard Amtrak.

    New York's strategy also includes regular tunnel inspections and roving teams of officers who go onto subway cars asking passengers to beware of suspicious packages. The officers can calm commuters, discourage would-be attacks or disrupt plots already set in motion, police say.

    Police rely on counterterrorism drills to stay sharp. One exercise involves having an undercover officer with a mock device, stashed in a backpack and emitting gamma rays, slip into the subway to test the ability to detect and neutralize real radioactive threats.

    Above ground, the department has dispatched detectives to Moscow, Madrid, London and Mumbai, India, to see what lessons can be learned from overseas terror attacks.

    London's transit system has long been affected by the threat of bombs — there are no garbage bins on the subway or in train stations, for example, a legacy of the years when London was an IRA target.

    After the 2005 attack, emergency services were criticized for lapses in their response — confusion, a shortage of first aid supplies and radios that did not work underground.

    Police have since been issued digital radios capable of operating throughout the subway system; and some members of the British Transport Police officers now patrol the transit network with guns. Most British police do not carry firearms.

    Home Secretary Theresa May, the government official responsible for MI5, said earlier this year that "a considerable number of improvements" had been put in place since 2005 but declined to give details for security reasons.

    In Spain, the national rail company Renfe said security measures on that network have in fact been beefed up since the massacre. But it refused to give details, calling the issue confidential and sensitive.

    Another state-owned company, Adif, which manages Spain's long-distance train stations, said it has assigned more guards at train stations and broadened use of closed-circuit security cameras.

    The heightened security in subways has become second nature in New York.

    But after walking through Grand Central Terminal last week, 54-year-old consultant Robin Gant said the threat of terrorism still weighs on her 10 years after the Sept. 11 attacks. But she wondered about how one can fairly point out who's a threat.

    "I look at people and who's to judge? You just never know who might be the one," she said. "No matter how safe you feel, you're always on yellow alert."

    ___

    Associated Press writers Karen Zraick in New York, Jill Lawless in London and Daniel Woolls in Madrid contributed to this report.

    Eds: This is one in a regular series of stories examining how the country has changed since Sept. 11, 2001.

     

    1,248 comments

    • John  •  10 mths ago
      The real terrorists in NYC are in the boardrooms of Goldman Sachs & JP Morgan Chase.
      • Judge 10 mths ago
        Isn't kissing Israel's @$$ grand?
        Death, deficit and fear. Thanx to Israel and it's supporters.

        Don't forget the Fed Reserve
      • Handoverfest 10 mths ago
        Most of our so called wealthy folks are former Israelis controlling our financial systems. It appears that they are running us into big debt. Hollywood is corrupting our nation with immoral teachings little by little...I could be wrong or may be right... only time will tell....
      • Th3D3adM3ss3nG3r 10 mths ago
        It's sad how many will say "Oh you're just being anti-Semitic", without doing a minute of independent research.
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        HE WANTS TO LEGALIZE POT!
        HE'S EVEN TRYING TO PASS LEGISLATION FOR IT RIGHT NOW! HE ALSO WANTS TO SHUT DOWN THE FEDERAL RESERVE (interest-free money like Kennedy & Lincoln tried!), END THE ILLEGAL INCOME TAX (it's really illegal; it wasn't properly ratified- research it), SHUT DOWN CONCENTRATION CAMPS LIKE GITMO,
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        If Obama is so good, why hasn't he EVEN TRIED to do any of these things?!
    • Haxan  •  10 mths ago
      What happened to the home of the brave? I'm willing to die for freedom by not living in fear.
      Fear is the greatest killer. Freedom and fear can not co-exist.
      • Crazy World We Live In 10 mths ago
        The sissification and p9ssification of America created the Home of the sissies and the land of p9ssies.
      • Jack 10 mths ago
        Why shouldn't freedom exist of and on it's own accord. Why do you have to die for freedom? Who told you that you needed to be willing to die for it, and isn't that the same as being willing to die for some absurd ideological cause? Who brainwashed you and why do others feel that way? Too bad the survivor veterans of WWII are too old to be reliable but I wonder if they knew how this country would turn out in 2011 if they would have went off to fight. Pretty ridiculous to me. We lost many thousands in Korea and nearly 60,00 deaths in Viet Nam and hundreds of thousand of physical and emotional injuries. What the heck did we win, the right to open a Mc Donald's there. How foolish the loss of live and the freedoms we all shared and lost in the name of what, freedom, your freedom. It ain't worth s*hit if you ain't breathing. When I was a young man I said the same thing you di, but not any longer, no way.
      • Belem 10 mths ago
        Hear hear, Jack!
    • chubbieewubbiee  •  10 mths ago
      A NATION OF SHEEP

      BREEDS A GOVERNMENT OF WOLVES
    • Demi  •  10 mths ago
      The biggest terror threat is Political Correctness
      • Ken T 10 mths ago
        Beautifully stated!
      • ntex 10 mths ago
        Political correctness is not a "terror" threat but you are correct that it is a threat to our way of life.
      • AJL 10 mths ago
        We've been 'politically correct'-ing ourselves out of global growth for at least 2 decades now. Good call.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  10 mths ago
      The biggest terrorist threat is going to come from senior citizens if you don't get those social security checks out you bozo's
      • Janina 10 mths ago
        Yes, I am sharpening my pitchfork...tuning up a wheelchair..
      • Dave Holmes 10 mths ago
        The gray panthers could make a big comeback!!!!!
      • Preybrother 10 mths ago
        The only threat of Seniors not getting their SS checks or Medicare payents lies with Obama because he has the power to prioritize payments. The SS trust fund has the money to cut checks for a long time so Obama's "threat" is absurd. Liberal Dems love to scare old people and kids.
    • PaulK  •  10 mths ago
      Post-9/11, biggest terror threat is underground...

      ...or in Washington DC
    • Tango  •  10 mths ago
      As the nation debates whether more guns or fewer can prevent tragedies like the Virginia Tech Massacre, a notable anniversary passed last month in a Georgia town that witnessed a dramatic plunge in crime and violence after mandating residents to own firearms.

      In March 1982, 25 years ago, the small town of Kennesaw – responding to a handgun ban in Morton Grove, Ill. – unanimously passed an ordinance requiring each head of household to own and maintain a gun. Since then, despite dire predictions of "Wild West" showdowns and increased violence and accidents, not a single resident has been involved in a fatal shooting – as a victim, attacker or defender.

      The crime rate initially plummeted for several years after the passage of the ordinance, with the 2005 per capita crime rate actually significantly lower than it was in 1981, the year before passage of the law.

      Prior to enactment of the law, Kennesaw had a population of just 5,242 but a crime rate significantly higher (4,332 per 100,000) than the national average (3,899 per 100,000). The latest statistics available – for the year 2005 – show the rate at 2,027 per 100,000. Meanwhile, the population has skyrocketed to 28,189.

      Read more: 25 years murder-free in 'Gun Town USA'
    • CSW  •  10 mths ago
      I would look at those who Govern this Nations first. There corruption is something the people will have to deal with one day.As another writer made note of this we live in a nation that is a police state/nation.There is no Justice for the normal man or women.The power is to the super rich.Sometime in the near future America will have another civil war. The Rich against Common people. This is sad because government leaders are in bed with big business. Your vote stands for nothing. Wake - up America....
    • Soo Do Nym  •  10 mths ago
      I have the address of one muslim sleeper cell intent on destroying the USA. It is located in a nice part of Washington DC at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
    • hightimes4change  •  10 mths ago
      Why do we keep publicly listing where the terrorists should strike next by reporting either where we are most vulnerable or where it would make the most impact...... "But authorities here believe a serious attack on the 24-hour subway system with more than 400 stations, would potentially cripple the city in ways worse than the Sept. 11, 2001 attack"
    • carrie  •  10 mths ago
      We better all be on the look-out for anyone who looks Norweigan.
    • Room  •  10 mths ago
      When we found that snake pit full of terrorists back in 2001, we should have nuked it. Then there would be far fewer to worry about today. Some scream that we would kill innocents. But can you consider them innocents if they harbor terrorists?

      This is war, people, and the sooner we face it, the sooner we can end it.
    • Scarlett  •  10 mths ago
      It makes me sad that people let this happen. If you give up your freedom for security, you don't deserve freedom. Just like Benjamin Franklin said.
    • DOG DAYS  •  10 mths ago
      education is the best defense of liberty
    • Chris  •  10 mths ago
      How do you like your new police state?
    • ya boy rc  •  10 mths ago
      honeslty im more worried about racist tea baggers that is taking over our country and making hate crime and murders legal then i am some terriost. tea baggers have killed and locked up far more people then terriost have done in america. this is the problem with our country, we get sadam and go over for oil all this while a nazi like jan brewer is governer. i never understand the goverment. they are agaisnt us americans. they are just as bad if not worse then the terriost.
    • Mark  •  10 mths ago
      Notice how the places most threatened with violence and terrorist attacks are the ones with the most strict gun laws? If Law abiding citizens carried firearms to protect themselves and others, then crime would be virtually eliminated.
    • marine  •  10 mths ago
      for christ sake don't cough or sneeze because the cops are going to call that in as a terrorist making strange moves. than security will be set at the subway just like the airport, this is what the police want, strip search, gropeing you privates like the airport does, etc. so please DON'T SNEEZE OR COUGH ON THE SUBWAY PLATFORM, IF YOU DO, YOU'LL BE SORRY.
    • Jason  •  10 mths ago
      Man am I ever glad I don't live in an urban area. Some of this stuff is downright chilling.
    • Chuck A.  •  10 mths ago
      The terrorists chosen (by their leaders), to strike within the United States must be among the dumbest of the dumb. Catching them seems to be relatively easy, though good police work has always been a factor.
      It's strange that they're trying to stage large "spectacular" attacks, when they could stag a series of smaller attacks to try to "wear us down".
      If they stage an ongoing series of continuing "smaller attacks", they would take away our "everyday sense of security", which could in the long run, impact on us like 9/11 did.
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