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    Rapid retreat of Chile glacier captured in images

    SANTIAGO, Chile (AP) — Researchers in Chile released a series of time-lapse photos Wednesday showing the dramatic retreat of a glacier in Patagonia.

    The Jorge Montt Glacier is shrinking faster than any other in Chile, with its snout retreating 1 kilometer (more than a half mile) between February 2010 and January 2011, glaciologist Andres Rivera said.

    Rivera said that global warming is a factor and that the glacier also is melting especially quickly because it partly rests in the waters of a deep fjord.

    Researchers presented a video showing the glacier's yearlong retreat through a total of 1,445 time-lapse photos. It's one of various similar projects by researchers around the world documenting the loss of glaciers.

    Rivera has studied dozens of glaciers as a researcher at the Center of Scientific Studies in Valdivia, Chile. He said he and his colleagues didn't know how rapidly the glacier was shrinking until they put up two cameras with solar panels to charge the batteries and programmed them to shoot four frames a day.

    "It was more or less clear that this was one of those retreating most quickly. But we didn't expect in the year of working with these cameras that it would retreat a kilometer more. That was a surprise," Rivera said in a telephone interview. "This glacier is filled with surprises for us."

    The glacier is about 1,800 kilometers (1,100 miles) south of Santiago in the Southern Patagonian Ice Field, which blankets a wide swath of the Andes between Chile and Argentina.

     

    "Patagonia has experienced climate changes at levels much more moderate than those observed in the rest of the world," Rivera said at a news conference. "However, almost all the glaciers of the region have lost area, and Jorge Montt is the one that has the record retreat."

    The researchers believe that based on a map from 1898, this glacier has retreated roughly 12 miles (19.5 kilometers) since then, Rivera said.

    It is a tidewater glacier that calves and releases icebergs as it advances into the fjord.

    "Such glaciers typically do retreat in response to warming. But the speed of the retreat is controlled by the ability of icebergs to break off in the fjord, not by the rate of warming," said Richard Alley, a prominent glaciologist at Penn State University.

    Rivera agreed, saying that he thinks climate change is the key trigger and that local conditions at the glacier are also having a big impact. He said his team measured the fjord's depth at about 1,300 feet (400 meters) in places, which was considerably deeper than they had thought.

    The retreat rate of the glacier "is quite exceptional," said Michel Barer, a researcher at McGill University in Montreal who has studied the melting of Peruvian glaciers.

    Barer and other glacier experts at a conference of geophysical scientists in San Francisco said the fastest retreating mountain glaciers are probably somewhere in South America or maybe the Himalayas.

    "We see steady but accelerating retreat of glaciers" in the tropical Andes, Barer said. His calculations show that those glaciers are losing 1 percent of their water a year.

    According to a recent study by British and Swedish scientists who analyzed about 350 glaciers in Patagonia, all but two of the glaciers have receded significantly since the late 1800s and have been shrinking at a faster rate during the past three decades. The study was published in April in the journal Nature Geoscience.

    Neil Glasser, a British glaciologist and one of the authors of the study, said he has also noticed in satellite images over the years that the Jorge Montt Glacier has been shrinking unusually quickly.

    "We know that many glaciers in South America are retreating, but this one is retreating ten times faster than the land-based glaciers. It shows how sensitive calving glaciers are to warming atmospheric (conditions) and ocean waters," Glasser said.

    He said other tidewater glaciers have quickly retreated in places such as Alaska and Greenland, but the Chilean glacier is one of the best examples in South America.

    Patagonia's mountain glaciers are so colossal, and fed by so much snowfall each winter, that scientists believe they aren't in immediate danger of vanishing in the coming centuries.

    But elsewhere, scientists expect glaciers to dwindle. Western Canada, for instance, is losing its mountain glaciers and many of them are likely to disappear in the next century, said Garry Clarke, a professor of Earth Sciences at the University of British Columbia.

    ___

    Associated Press writer Eva Vergara reported in Santiago and Ian James in Caracas, Venezuela. AP Science Writer Seth Borenstein in Washington contributed to this report.

     

    1,611 comments

    • Flooner J. Schooner  •  5 mths ago
      The Chacaltaya glacier in Bolivia is all but disappeared and it sits at an elevation of 17,500 feet.
      • Jim in CA 5 mths ago
        Perhaps something here you don't understand. When the climate is extremely cold..as it has been in the southern hemisphere...the mechanism which allows water to be evaporated and condense out as snow or rain shuts down. Most global warming alarmists don't understand this. Hopefully now you do.
      • John 5 mths ago
        My beer bottle is allmost empty. I better go get a new one and start over. Get it?
      • ken 5 mths ago
        and your point is? natural recession? of course it is?
    • Wildbiologist  •  5 mths ago
      Glacier National Park will be glacier-free by 2030. I worked in Kenai Fjords NP and several *miles* of one fjord (Aialik Bay) were mapped as solid glacier in around 1900. Tidewater glaciers there will gone within the century so go see this stuff and take your kids before it's all gone!
      • Old Geezer 5 mths ago
        Exactly, I live near Glacier. I first went there in 1958. Have been back serveral times since, the most recent this past summer. The Ice Loss is absolutely stunning in one of the most beautiful places on Earth!
      • wake up! 5 mths ago
        Well I just visited Glacier National Park in June and the guides were saying they got so much snow in the last couple of years that it looks like they are starting to build up again. Cycles, it's all about cycles.
      • harry 1 5 mths ago
        we were very fortunate to visit this place on our 2011 Alaska cruise on Zandam cruise ship. It is awful and so nice to see things around.
    • Muad'Dib  •  5 mths ago
      Among the most influential of the new breed of so-called super PACs is the tea party group Americans for Prosperity, founded by David and Charles Koch, the principal owners of Koch Industries, a major U.S. oil conglomerate. As Koch Industries has lobbied aggressively against climate-change policy, Americans for Prosperity has spearheaded an all-fronts campaign using advertising, social media, and cross-country events aimed at electing lawmakers who will ensure that the oil industry won’t have to worry about any new regulations.

      AFP President Tim Phillips proudly takes credit for this, and readily admits that his group threatened politicians with “political peril” if they “played footsie” with green solutions:

      Tim Phillips, president of Americans for Prosperity, says there’s no question that the influence of his group and others like it has been instrumental in the rise of Republican candidates who question or deny climate science…“We’ve made great headway. What it means for candidates on the Republican side is, if you…buy into green energy or you play footsie on this issue, you do so at your political peril. The vast majority of people who are involved in the [Republican] nominating process—the conventions and the primaries—are suspect of the science. And that’s our influence. Groups like Americans for Prosperity have done it.
      • RICHARD 5 mths ago
        Just what do you a'holes plan to use for fuel in your vehicles when all petroleum based energy is shut down, hmmmmm?
      • Pashha C 5 mths ago
        Mr.Phillips has committed a crime against humanity.
      • Jonathan 5 mths ago
        Richard; What do all you a'holes plan on doing for fuel when all fossil fuels are GONE and or planet is in shambles because of it. Sorry dipchit, but there's only one type of a'hole around here and it aint the people trying to come up with the solutions.
    • .  •  5 mths ago
      I'm of the opinion that even if the current climate change is cyclic in nature, what humans are doing to the planet can't be good for it. Would you rather breathe fresh ocean breezes or smog? Would you rather walk through a redwood forest, or an area completely deforested? Would you rather live near a massive pig farm (needed to provide meat to the ever expanding population) smelling pig scat, or a rolling meadow?

      Climate change may be 100% natural (or it may not be, I;m not here to argue that point) but we can still try to live "greener" lives. Simple things like leaving more trees in cities to reduce heat absorbtion and clean the air. (streets/buildings absorb massive amounts of heat, even touch blacktop on a hot day? now compare that to touching the ground under a shady tree) I installed a small water wheel in our creek and some solar panels. Not only are we now using less fossil fuel (most energy is still created by burning fossil fuel), but it really cut down the electric bill. We also invested in good insulation so it takes a lot less energy to keep the house warm in the winter. There are many ways we can help improve society and make it more sustainable.
      • . 5 mths ago
        O and before someone calls me a tree hugging liberal or some such...I actually learn more towards the right. Although I'm an independent thinker and don't let party politics define me. I enjoy camping, hiking, hunting, etc and would like for future generations to be able to enjoy it as well.
      • Wildbiologist 5 mths ago
        Excellent points; How could efficiency and investing in alternatives to polluting energy sources (especially when provided by countries that aid our enemies) EVER be a bad thing???
      • A. Opinion 5 mths ago
        Would you rather have more people starve because you increased energy prices worry about a possibly non-existent problem? No one has proven increasing CO2 causes a catastrophic temperature increase.
    • Eric1  •  5 mths ago
      The mountains of Glacier National Park began forming 170 million years ago when ancient rocks were forced eastward up and over much younger rock strata. Known as the Lewis Overthrust, these sedimentary rocks are considered to have some of the finest fossilized examples of extremely early life found anywhere on Earth. The current shapes of the Lewis and Livingston mountain ranges and positioning and size of the lakes show the telltale evidence of massive glacial action, which carved U-shaped valleys and left behind moraines which impounded water creating lakes. Of the estimated 150 glaciers which existed in the park in the mid-19th century, only 25 active glaciers remained by 2010. Scientists studying the glaciers in the park have estimated that all the glaciers may disappear by 2030 if the current climate patterns persist.

      Glacier National Park is dominated by mountains which were carved into their present shapes by the huge glaciers of the last ice age; these glaciers have largely disappeared over the last 12,000 years. Evidence of widespread glacial action is found throughout the park in the form of U-shaped valleys, glacial cirques, arêtes and large outflow lakes radiating like fingers from the base of the highest peaks. Since the end of the ice ages, various warming and cooling trends have occurred. The last recent cooling trend was during the Little Ice Age which took place approximately between 1550 and 1850. During the Little Ice Age, the glaciers in the park expanded and advanced, although to nowhere near as great an extent as they had during the Ice Age.
      During the middle of the 20th century, examination of the maps and photographs from the previous century provided clear evidence that the 150 glaciers known to have existed in the park a hundred years earlier had greatly retreated, and in many cases disappeared altogether.
      In the 1980s, the U.S. Geological Survey began a more systematic study of the remaining glaciers, which continues to the present day. By 2010, 37 glaciers remained, but only 25 of these were considered to be "active glaciers" of at least 25 acres (0.10 km2) in area. Scientists generally agree that if the current climate conditions continue, most of the remaining glaciers in the park will be gone by 2030 or even as soon as 2020. This glacier retreat follows a worldwide pattern that has accelerated even more since 1980. Without a major climatic change in which cooler and moister weather returns and persists, the mass balance, which is the accumulation rate versus the ablation (melting) rate of glaciers, will continue to be negative and the glaciers will eventually disappear, leaving behind only barren rock.
      After the end of the Little Ice Age in 1850, the glaciers in the park retreated moderately until the 1910s. Between 1917 and 1941, the retreat rate accelerated and was as high as 330 feet (100 m) a year for some glaciers. A slight cooling trend from the 1940s until 1979, helped to slow the rate of retreat and in a few examples some glaciers even advanced a few tens of meters. However, during the 1980s, the glaciers in the park began a steady period of loss of glacial ice, which continues as of 2010. In 1850, the glaciers in the region near Blackfoot and Jackson Glaciers covered 5,337 acres (21.6 km2), but by 1979, the same region of the park had glacier ice covering only 1,828 acres (7.4 km2). Between 1850 and 1979, 73% of the glacial ice had melted away. At the time the park was created, Jackson Glacier was part of Blackfoot Glacier, but the two have separated into two glaciers since.
      • markp 5 mths ago
        You forgot to mention that the glaciers from the Wisconsin Glacial completely disappeared at Glacier Park during the Xerothermic warm period around 6000 years ago. The glaciers (actually they are large patches of perennial ice) we see there now have re-formed since then, so humans are not killing the last vestige of the great Ice Age glaciers of the region. It's a beautiful place, and it wouldn't be quite the same without the ice that is there; but it isn't our fault. The decrease in size since the mid-nineteenth century is because the Little Ice Age ended around that time, and it's been warming up some since then. Occam's razor says that if this explains it, nothing more complex is necessary.
      • markp 5 mths ago
        You forgot to mention that the glaciers from the Wisconsin Glacial completely disappeared at Glacier Park during the Xerothermic warm period around 6000 years ago. The glaciers (actually they are large patches of perennial ice) we see there now have re-formed since then, so humans are not killing the last vestige of the great Ice Age glaciers of the region. It's a beautiful place, and it wouldn't be quite the same without the ice that is there; but it isn't our fault. The decrease in size since the mid-nineteenth century is because the Little Ice Age ended around that time, and it's been warming up some since then. Occam's razor says that if this explains it, nothing more complex is necessary.
      • ENDO- 5 mths ago
        Hey dimwit.. you do know that the Little Ice Age ended 130 years ago, right?
    • Bustersmycat  •  5 mths ago
      you should go see the video. the flow rate is astounding. pretty cool to watch. A true river of ice.
    • MissLabeled  •  5 mths ago
      Looks like a lot of you people are just as ignorant as the guy with the video on the "object by Mercury" article. You clearly don't have a background in science, and you only make yourselves look stupid trying to pass yourselves off as knowledgeable when you're only reading off a list of talking points from someone else's agenda.

      Here's how science works, since you obviously need help: You take an idea or a problem and compare, test, or subject it to all known conditions. They know what caused the warming and cooling trends of the past so they take that data and run it against what they're getting now. The plates have not significantly moved, new mountain ranges have not risen or collapsed, the axial tilt hasn't wobbled, and the information stored in the ocean sediment cores and the ice cores and the geophysical boundaries, etc., don't support the current findings. All these things that provide a REASON or an explanation for the past events are measured against the warming trends and time after time the data doesn't add up to identify a culprit UNTIL they factor in human activity.

      That's how science works. Not a political line in the sands, but all things considered to the exclusion of all but one. You deniers are only considering what the puppets of the oil barons say. You don't know exactly what you're saying, and you certainly have no idea what you're talking about.
    • J.C.  •  5 mths ago
      Iceland was warmer in the first half of the 20th Century than it was in the second half, as in Greenland. Most glaciers in Iceland lost mass after 1930 because summers warmed by .6 degrees Celsius. Since then the climate has become colder. The reality is that since 1970 these glaciers have been steadily advancing. They have regained half the ground that was lost earlier. See P. Chylek et al, 2004, ":Global Warming and the Greenland Ice Sheet," in Climate Change 63, pgs 201-21.
    • J.C.  •  5 mths ago
      "There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact." Mark Twain
    • J.C.  •  5 mths ago
      While it is generally accepted that the world has been in a gradual warming trend over the past 80 years, there is no scientific consensus on the THEORY of AGW, other than in the self-serving liberal media. If the Vikings were farming in Greenland in 1100, why weren't Venice and Holland under water?
    • snowrunner51  •  Chicago, United States  •  5 mths ago
      I am kinda glad there is global warming. If there was not those Mastadons and Sabre Toothed Tigers could really tie up traffic.
    • Floridian  •  Miami, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Also most people dont realize but hundreds of millions of people around the world rely on glaciers for there source of water.
    • In the middle  •  5 mths ago
      A. Opinion wrote, "There is no evidence proving global warming is caused mostly by man." Then how do you account for the fact that temperatures over cities and populated areas are generally higher than temperatures in surrounding, less-populated areas?
    • isotired  •  Cleveland, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Global warming is debatable but can anyone not understand that the amount of global pollution that is produced by mankind is being trapped inside our ozone and cannot escape and hast to be effecting our earths temperature.
    • Publius  •  5 mths ago
      yep, Al Gore just made it all up for personal profit. Keep telling yourselves that until the world's major coastal cities are under water.
    • popeye1250  •  Murrells Inlet, United States  •  5 mths ago
      But, if we just spend more U.S. Taxpayer's money we can make this all better, right?
    • David W  •  5 mths ago
      according to all you liberal nutjobs we were all supposed to be dead by now. Every 5 years you push it out another 5 years. How long until you drop it? In 10 years when all the ice comes back naturally? Then you'll be screaming about global cooling and ice ages again. Friggin morons. Youre all about preserving mother earth and keeping the world clean,then you go to NYC and piss and crap in the streets. You are all lost. You just need SOMETHING to believe in. Someone to FOLLOW
    • fotoman1133406  •  Everett, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Guys, Ah, gee; "global warming" is nonsense AND does'nt effect us... at all. RIGHT........... B S......................................
    • J.C.  •  5 mths ago
      Anything based on a computer model is immediately suspect. The Earth's atmosphere is comprised of 99% nitrogen and oxygen. Most of the rest is methane. Even a doubling of the carbon in the atmosphere would be a miniscule change.
    • J.C.  •  5 mths ago
      I am quite sure that somewhere else in Chile a glacier is growing. But it is not convenient to mention that.
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