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    Republicans say education department should go

    ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — The Republican presidential contenders say vast parts of the Department of Education would be on the chopping block — if not completely shut down.

    The GOP candidates on Thursday universally panned the education department as they met for a debate. Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota says she would push the repeal of federal education laws and personally go to the department's headquarters, turn out the lights, lock the door.

    Texas Gov. Rick Perry says the Education Department is too aggressive and criticized former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney for supporting it. Romney says Perry has his facts wrong yet again.

    Former Speaker Newt Gingrich says he would roll back much of the department's regulation and would introduce grants to help parents pay for the schools of their choice.

     

    144 comments

    • Ngunzi  •  8 mths ago
      Play with education and the country is finished. This is illiteracy promotion, backwardness....
    • ESI  •  8 mths ago
      they say they would gut the department...but we know they won't if elected. They'll do exactly what the shadow government tells them to do. Just like Bush and Obama.
    • Kalki Avatar  •  8 mths ago
      This is hardly a news. Perry and his gang (which is almost the whole GOP) have already declared their resolution to make the Fed irrelevant once they are in power.
    • HypocrisyAtWork  •  8 mths ago
      A FED driven education department is a disater waiting to happen. What exactly has a FED driven anything ever benefitted? Now the eduactional disateds will just be maginified on a federal level. Liberal educational experiments like adopting the notion that you can't tell little johnny that 2+2 does not equal 5 is wrong because it might make him hate learning is an example of the "experiments" they are going to try
      Bad idea.
    • James  •  8 mths ago
      You all can haz cheezeburgerz
    • American moderate  •  8 mths ago
      Eliminate the Dept of Education: That way we can have more undereducated workers who can't find jobs; a higher crime rate; be less competitive in the world which will lead to more jobs being shipped overseas so again fewer jobs here; a weaker economy so more businesses will fail and more homes go into foreclosure. And with vouchers more public schools will be strapped for cash so even more kids will receive a poor education, so fewer job prospects again. Yes sir, a great plan these candidates have!
      • Merlinalexander 8 mths ago
        Again - missing the point - since the introduction of the DOE - education has universally failed in this country. By allowing states and communities more control, they can actually work to make competitive schools.
      • American moderate 8 mths ago
        Doubtful. I was lucky and I admit, privileged, to attend two of the very best private schools in the country thru 12th grade. I have taught in public schools and worked with school systems to try and improve them. Some schools have been very good, some less so. It has mainly been state institutions and commissions, especially in Texas, which have dumbed down education. Left to their own devices, many states will fail to educate their citizens which will only hurt all of us. If that is acceptable to you that is your right.I prefer to work to make things better, but 51 separate school systems with thousands of individual districts setting their own standards will not accomplish that.
    • S  •  8 mths ago
      Most of the posters here have little idea what the Dept. of Education does. It has nothing to do with unions, and it does little to fund schools. The federal government is responsible for about 8.5% of school funding, and the US is ranked 37th in the amount is spends on schools based on GDP. The issue of school quality and funding is already local issue.
      • Impeach Obama 8 mths ago
        READ AND LEARN:
        1. 35 Cents of every tax dollar collected for the Dept. of Ed goes to pays its salaries and operating costs. That's a 35% OVERHEAD before ANYTHING ELSE GETS DONE.
        2. DE has a 24.7 BILLION $ Operating Budget
        3. DE has a 69.4 BILLION $ DISCRETIONARY Budget
        4. For every 14 CENTS of money the DE sends back to the States, there is 16 Cents of 'conditions' attached that the states must pay for.
        5. The greatest level of educational attainment in the US was during the 50's and 60's BEFORE THE DE was made a Cabinet level office; the educational excellence was achieved by the STATES, NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
        WE DO NOT NEED THE FINANCIAL DRAIN OF THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
        LET THE GOVERNMENT KNOW WE WANT THE DE DISMANTLED.
        WRITEREP dot HOUSE dot GOV
        SENATE dot GOV
      • Digg 8 mths ago
        Well then it is of little loss to get rid of it. Since the Fed has so little to do with it,there is little need to keep spending any of our money for it or its 5,000 employees.
    • The Nubian  •  8 mths ago
      Please do not give control of education to the state. Where I live the schools are under federal oversight due to poor management and low test scores. If they get control again are children will suffer even more than now. I should not have to consider moving to another state, or to the county for my child to get a decent education and services.
    • HCinNY  •  8 mths ago
      The politicians (Reps or Dems) could easily repair the Education department such as by upgrading standardized textbooks utilizing customized Barrons soft-cover textbooks for all grades across the USA and standarized tests based on them. There are plenty of USA PHDs from top tier USA universities that could better the USA curriculum. With the new, modern learning materials on the general market, the students should be doing better not worse.
    • mikec  •  8 mths ago
      After 47 years of bilingual education in California the measure of success is "for english press one". So again why the Dept of Education unless it is to present one groups agenda.
    • Wesley Mori  •  8 mths ago
      Well, "HOW EDUCATED or UNEDUCATED/STUPID do YOU WANT YOUR CHILDREN TO BE"???? "GOD BLESS AMERICA"!!!
    • frederick  •  8 mths ago
      For the idiot Tea baggers who hate all taxes, Big gov., and Socialism.
      Stop taking Social Security checks
      Stop taking medicaid/medicare
      Do not send you kids to publicly funded school
      Get off the highways and bridges
      Dont cry when the rich dodge even more taxes since you got rid of the IRS
      By all means drink water that is not protected by the EPA so it can be shut down
      Please.. go work for companies with no safety standards so we can disband OSHA
      Take medications with no FDA safety checks.. we cant afford the FDA
      Enjoy your lower wages and benefits from dismantling unions
      Watch as your house burns to avoid utilizing fire fighters service on the tax payers dime
      When your getting robbed dont call a cop.. his salary is paid by taxes.
      The point here is: We have always had a certain measure of socialism.. that word amongst many others is just a way the right tricks weak minded fools into thinking that Obamas policies are unamerican so they can change public perception and get their boy back in power, when in fact the truth is taxes have gone DOWN for 95% of America under Obama, and his policies though while they have created many jobs as yet have actually saved many jobs from being lost. Like it or not he is not the monster the right tries to portray him as. This is not kiss ing his butt.. this is objective facts that can be verified.. if you dare to look it up.. go ahead.. I dare you!
    • Ontrack  •  8 mths ago
      The TEN poorest and least educated states in the US are in the SE and are GOP controlled. If you live in that area and are middle class or lower, your GOP brethren are given you a HOSING while you live in POVERTY. It is hard to believe that the people in the SE keep asking for more GOP HOSINGS. Education is something that ALL the Southern states lack. Enjoy it boys and girls of the SE, at least you got your guns, bibles and pickem up trucks.
      • Ed 8 mths ago
        idiot
    • Impeach Obama  •  8 mths ago
      READ AND LEARN:
      1. 35 Cents of every tax dollar collected for the Dept. of Ed goes to pays its salaries and operating costs. That's a 35% OVERHEAD before ANYTHING ELSE GETS DONE.
      2. DE has a 24.7 BILLION $ Operating Budget
      3. DE has a 69.4 BILLION $ DISCRETIONARY Budget
      4. For every 14 CENTS of money the DE sends back to the States, there is 16 Cents of 'conditions' attached that the states must pay for.
      5. The greatest level of educational attainment in the US was during the 50's and 60's BEFORE THE DE was made a Cabinet level office; the educational excellence was achieved by the STATES, NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
      WE DO NOT NEED THE FINANCIAL DRAIN OF THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
      LET THE GOVERNMENT KNOW WE WANT THE DE DISMANTLED.
      WRITEREP dot HOUSE dot GOV
      SENATE dot GOV
    • Law Abiding Citizen  •  8 mths ago
      The fact is that Parents and schools are failing our children. Kids today have no respect for learning. The issue here may not be about what the Dept of Education does as a whole, but about what the Department of Education dictates down to the State Level. All of the Candidates believe the States should have more to say about their Schools. In all cases the system is broke, but not all schools are broke. Successful schools should be modeled after. The strengths and aptitudes of the Teachers at those schools should be emmulated and cirriculum copied. Do we need a Federal Dept of Education to do that? I don't think so. Everything seems too big to fail in todays World. I say shut it down, and rebuild it if needed. Sometimes things are so structurally flawed that they must be taken down to the foundation before they can be fixed.
    • privy  •  8 mths ago
      It's about time. No place for the federal government in local education policies.
    • ALKALINE  •  8 mths ago
      "Small government" is an Orwellian newspeak word for ba$$ackwardness.
    • El Chavo Blanco  •  8 mths ago
      Former Speaker Newt Gingrich says he would roll back much of the department's regulation and would introduce grants to help parents pay for the schools of their choice............This dude is one of the founding Architects of the Department of Education from back in the Reagan presidency..........now he want`s to leech off of that Charter School Gravy Train funding
    • Herb  •  8 mths ago
      Keep em dumb so they can vote against their own best interests.
    • Eric  •  8 mths ago
      The same Department of Education whom administers Pell grants so one can go to college. Same grants the House is trying to kill. Seriously I do not think any GOP candidate really knows what any one department actually does. I look Gingrich's statement "would roll back much of the department's regulation and would introduce grants to help parents pay for the schools of their choice." Grants imply no payback ya Jacka$$. So what is the Pell Grant again. He again they advocate government welfare ISO of private companies.

      Now the Dept of Education does not break out their labor costs in their budget history but it is mandatory s assume its part of mandatory spending vice discretionary as you are required to pay for labor. About only 8% of the Dept's spending is mandatory the rest is discretionary. Labor does not make up all the mandatory spending by the Department of Education.

      Lets talk Medicare where they used about 8% of their total dollars for Administrative Costs of the Program. THIS IS A DEAL..go find out how much insurance companies spend on those same costs 25-30% is typical. Be even better if Congress would stop stealing from this protected fund.

      So for the moron IMPEACHMENT OBAMA who wrote two fallacies in that the Department of Labor collects money(I have never sent them a check) and they pay 35% iof their appropriation from Congress on their own employees. MORE LIES.
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