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    Do Republicans Really Want to Cut Taxes on the Wealthy and Raise Them on Everyone Else?

    Of all the curious rhetoric floating around both Washington and the campaign trail, the strangest may be the demand of many Republicans that Congress raise taxes for low-income working households even as it cuts taxes for the wealthy.  The left has, not surprisingly, gleefully leapt on the issue. And, honestly, it seems like terrible politics for the GOP.

    But this idea is hardly new. It is a key element of various forms of consumption taxes such as the National Retail Sales Tax (including the wildly misnamed FAIR tax). It is also favored among those on the right who want to close “loopholes” to force  low- and moderate-income households to pay some income tax even as they cut rates across the board—a design almost certain to favor high-income taxpayers.

    Texas governor and GOP presidential hopeful Rick Perry supports the FAIR tax (or at least did last year when he wrote his manifesto Fed Up). This levy would repeal nearly all federal taxes (including the income tax and the payroll tax) and replace them with a single-rate national sales tax on the purchase of all goods and services. FAIR tax backers set this rate at 23 percent but the Tax Policy Center’s Bill Gale and others have concluded that the rate would have to exceed 30 percent if the scheme is to raise as much money as current law.

    To try to get a sense of what such a levy would do to the tax burden across incomes, the Tax Policy Center analyzed a generic consumption tax designed to replace most federal taxes. In, um, fairness, it is important to note that TPC did not review the actual FAIR tax but rather a stylized Value Added Tax –type consumption tax. But any broad-based consumption tax will generate roughly the same pattern.

    Still, the results are dramatic. On average, such a levy would raise the share of taxes paid for all but the highest-income households, who would pay far less than they do today.  A consumption tax without any rebate to protect low-income people (the red bar in the graph) would be extremely regressive. In other words, the more you make, the lower your tax burden, and the less you make, the higher–a mirror image of today’s moderately progressive tax system.

    The reason is simple: A consumption levy would not tax income from saving, and low- and moderate-income people save a lot less than the rich. Thus, if Congress taxes consumption, those down the economic food chain will inevitably pay more in taxes. One way Congress can address the problem is with a rebate—effectively exempting thousands of dollars of spending from tax (the exact amount is tied to the poverty level so it rises as income falls).

    As the blue bars in the graph show, such a rebate would not completely fix the problem. Low- and moderate-income families would still pay more on average than they do today. But they’d pay a much smaller share than if there was no rebate.

    There is a funny thing about the rebate, though (called a prebate in the FAIR tax). It would end up exempting a lot of low-income households from tax—recreating exactly the problem Perry and others complain about. And even with a rebate, the highest income 5 percent of households would still enjoy a major tax cut even as others pay more.  Such a consumption tax would reduce the tax burden for the top 1 percent (who make an average of $1.6 million per year) by a stunning 40 percent.

    Of course, tax systems are about more than fairness. Efficiency and the effect on the overall economy matter. But I’m not sure I’d want to run for president on a promise to cut the tax burden on millionaires by 40 percent even as I’d raise taxes for nearly everybody else.  Forget class warfare. This is more like the charge of the Light Brigade.

     

    1,948 comments

    • PrarySky  •  9 mths ago
      I guess, the rich got tired of living in the castles without the serfs? Where did the real republican party go?
    • James Bouvier  •  9 mths ago
      Corporate businesses don't pay taxes. The tax bill they receive becomes an item in their overall costs of doing business and is a factor in the price of the products and/or services they sell to us. Only people who work for a living pay taxes.
      • Paula 9 mths ago
        "only the little people pay taxes" Leona Helmsley
    • Diane  •  9 mths ago
      Tax burden schmax burden. I'm not rich or a republican, but let's get rid of the income tax. There's no way to make it fair. I will pay more sales tax instead and use my brain a little more when shopping. WE will get out of this hole!!
      • Richard Longley 9 mths ago
        You are the poster child for people who act against their own self interest. There's no "we" in "rich people". Their children will be fine, your children won't. Maybe use your brain a little before it's too late!
      • Dr Woo Hoo 9 mths ago
        When the rich KEEP getting richer, even if it is through means, the imbalance of wealth accords an obscene imbalance of power and eventually hubris and disregard for the less fortunate. You end with up a country where the economy deteriorates and even the richest don't want to end up living in a country that looks like a second-rate country.
    • Gatekeeper  •  9 mths ago
      The more the GOP hurt the poor and middle class, there will be more Earth quakes and storms for the GOP the Pestilence has been released among them.
    • Marty Marsh  •  9 mths ago
      Divide and conquer.
    • Continua  •  9 mths ago
      Please, all you Billionaires, please. Please save America - tell you what, if we eliminate the minimum wage will you then provide us with jobs?
      • Dr Woo Hoo 9 mths ago
        Yes - we will. Please work at $2/day and sleep in my company town. Vote for who we tell you to, and worship us as your saviors.
    • wonsetihw  •  9 mths ago
      Another democratic ploy to stir the pot of controversy. I want all Americans to pay taxes. Only 51% of Americans paid taxes in 2010 and its projected that only 49% will pay taxes in 2011. There is no way the country could survive. Everyone needs to contribute their fair share. Its make no sense that even the merger worker has to pay taxes while 51% don't. Change the tax laws, so everyone has to pay, poor, middle and rich.
      • Paula 9 mths ago
        yeah I want exxon and GE to pay taxes also !
      • Paula 9 mths ago
        why didn't YOU guys change the tax code when you had six yrs of total control? Why is this only an issue when there is a dem in the WH? nevermind , I know why
      • cocheta 9 mths ago
        Rfw...using a lie as the base of your argument convinces no one. The statistics say 49% will have no FEDERAL TAX LIABILITY. That does not mean that they don't pay SS, SSI & Medicare taxes as well as state local taxes. For that matter, everyone who buys goods or services in this country pays taxes beyond sales taxex...they're included in the price charged by corporations and businesses.
    • WooHoo  •  9 mths ago
      LISTEN UP PEOPLE: You think these politicians (Paul Ryan, Scott Walker, Eric Cantor, Mitch McConnel, Daniel Issa, Joe Lieberman, Rob Portman, Steny Hoyer, give a rats behind if they get reelected? They are there to serve one purpose: deregulate (for Wall Street, Big Corporations, Big Oil), uphold tax breaks, subsidies & loopholes, break down workers rights, lay off workers and hire back at a lower wage,, cut funds (for medicare, SS, education). Republicans want to Repeal the Health Care (their game is to call it Socialized Medicine) so Insurance Companies can bankrupt the middle class. They want everything to be privatized (medicare, SS, education, healthcare) There mission is to establish and pass the agenda they were elected for. Once their job is done, they will return to their positions in Wall Street, Big Corporations, and Insurance Companies and it will be too late, the damage will be done! Don't let them get away with it. You must do everything to stop them! This is the time to make your voices heard. People are swamping the offices of their elected officials with phone calls and emails, letting them know how they feel about the “Attack on the middle class.” Please join me and others on making your voices heard. Do something other than post here where no one will hear you….Middle class Americans are the hard working backbone of this country. They do not want hand outs, they want jobs and their self respect.
      Of all the countries in the world, none need a revolution as bad as the United States, a country ruled by a handful of selfish greedy fat cats who have more income and wealth than can be spent in a lifetime.
      All great social change has not come from the White House, the State House, or City Hall. All great movements have come from Americans stepping up. Only when the people care enough & had enough that's when politicians will have the political will to change!
      • Marty Marsh 9 mths ago
        Instead of naming names you should have just said everyone in Washington.
      • Marlene 9 mths ago
        Health care is not the same thing as insurance. What they have effectively done is creat a MONOPOLY, a FORCED MONOPOLY eg. SLAVERY. This is from someone who would HAVE TO take they subsidy. I can't afford the insurance without it, I can't afford the penalty. I have NEVER taken a subsidy in my life. I use alternative medicine. The bill is unconstitutional FOR ME, by the 1st, 5th, 8th, 9th, 10th and 13th amendments, the 1st being establishing a religion. Funny thing about the Constitution, what is unconstitutional for one, is unconstutional FOR ALL. To say that is not so, is to say that some people can OWN SLAVES and some may not. What that means, is that you are at LIBERTY to buy your insurance, and I am at LIBERTY to not buy it and use my alternative medicine. I am at LIBERTY to not take a subsidy. LIBERTY according to the Declaration of Independence, is UNALIENABLE, a god given RIGHT. That the very legislation you want, is the very type of thing that made the whole mess in the first place, the rich getting richer, started when the govenment got into the business of taking that liberty away. Before Medicare, healthcare in this country was appoximately %5 of GDP, with their help it is now pushing %16.
    • Paula  •  9 mths ago
      The idiot cons had TOTAL control of the govt for six solid yrs....and the did NOTHING to change the tax code that they are ALL griping about today......It isn't the poors fault they don't have to pay taxes......ITS THE IDIOT CONS FAULT.....SO SHUT YOUR TRAPS ABOUT 50% NOT PAYING TAXES you disgusting pos'
    • Tex Jimbo  •  9 mths ago
      The usual, raise them on the middle to lower but create more loopholes for the top 2%, no new news there.........
      same ole same ole !
    • Gale  •  9 mths ago
      What about that 46% of people who pay NO income tax? Well, could it be they don't MAKE ENOUGH MONEY? Bet you think that earned income tax credit is a liberal democrat idea. Maybe you would be surprised to know that it was Gerald Ford that signed that law, and that it was enhanced under guess who? Ronald Regan, as a method and means to combat poverty. So, the next time you think that it's only democrats who recognize that there are inequalities and inequities in our economic system, try to remember the earned income tax credit, and where it came from and why. We are not all so different, and we need to stop acting as if we are.
    • GummyBear  •  9 mths ago
      Funny that all the debate is between raising taxes, not raising them, cutting spending, not cutting spending, where is the debate to insure we don't wind up in this fiscal mess again?
      Once the congress and white house decide what they are going to do, how will they make sure this doesn't happen again? Say between spending cuts and tax enhancements we start down a path to paying down the national debt, where's the guarantee that we won't be having these same discussions 4 years, 6 years , 8 or 10 years from now? Point being, what good is a "fix" if it doesn't really fix anything?
    • B. A. Smith  •  9 mths ago
      You want to know what is wrong with America - read some of these posts. Some believe that all the problems are from the tea party who's be in office 9 months. Some believe that it's only the Republicans or only the Democrats both are playing the people as fools. Some want to raise taxes only on the wealthy when loop holes is the reason they don't pay higher taxes, some play victim knowing they are in the 47% who pays no taxes. The BIGGEST problem is that the government and media are dividing the people and some here are playing in that game.
    • ReduceGOV  •  9 mths ago
      It appears that Howard Gleckman's Keynesian math is a but fuzzy. A simple calculator shows him to be wrong in his analysis on a Fair tax system application. He says that such a tax would raise the share of taxes on lower income wages earners.

      He states, "Still, the results are dramatic. On average, such a levy would raise the share of taxes paid for all but the highest-income households, who would pay far less than they do today. A consumption tax without any rebate to protect low-income people (the red bar in the graph) would be extremely regressive. In other words, the more you make, the lower your tax burden, and the less you make, the higher–a mirror image of today’s moderately progressive tax system."

      On its face, this statement is absolutely false by simple math. For example, a person making $25,000 would have a tax burden of $5,750 under a tax rate of 23%. A person making $200,000 would have a tax burden of $46,000. Anyone can see that in real dollars, assuming no credits or deductions, the taxpayer making more money would pay more taxes.

      Now, considering that today, some 45% of taxpayers pay no tax due to the myriad number of credits and exemptions they receive, their taxes would evidently go up. But those making above $200,000 may also have a larger tax burden due to erasing their various deductions and business expenses, etc.. These tax changes compare to the assumption of the tax laws currently in place, which are progressive (or I might say even socialistic in that they confiscate capital that goes toward production). This tax law is nowhere fair in that nearly 50% of taxpayers pay no tax. If the tax rate were set so that government revenues could meet what government obligations SHOULD BE, we would not only see a greater amount of productivity, but low wage earners would see their income eventually dramatically increase due to the overall national increase in productivity or gross national product.

      Gleckman also says that the tax rate would have to go up to about 30% to gain an equal amount of tax revenue we currently have. The problem with this argument is that it assumes that we need this amount of revenue to support our current spending levels. This is arguing backwards. The problem with any tax code is not revenue but rather government spending. Who says we need to same spending levels as we have today? This is a faulty argument on its face.

      Keynesians seem to not only have a problem with simple math but also with simple economic principles that put in place the progressive tax system we have today that fails to solve our economic booms and bust cycles. As a nation, we need a tax system that is not as complex as the one we have today. The Keynes model has led to all kinds of modifications to the tax code and trickery that we cannot even make sense of the hundreds of thousands of pages of the IRS code. The Fair tax system is simple and far from being fuzzy and would lead to much greater productivity and potential wealth for all.
    • Jack Johnson  •  9 mths ago
      Whom and or what kind of stupid question and article is this?!! Of course the repukes want to cut taxes on the wealthy and put the tax paying burden on the poor working class americans who do have a job at this time.

      americans wake up!!! For the americans who do have a job and if this economic travesty made by repuke-god g.bush jr, continues in the next 4 to 5 years then for all intent purposes, the united states of america is dead!!!

      the two ways americans can fight back to save america is---a million american walk on wall street, nyc and every congressional house in washington, dc which is of course, the capital, congress, the senate and the white house. Also make no mistake president obama did not start this horror of this man-made recession/depression, he just handled it to softly when it came to sadly trying to be respectable to the repukes and fair and down the middle to all race of all foreign countries.

      president-bho it is time get down and dirty and clean up the garbage bush jr, left you. Clean up the garbage the current repukes such as bonehead and company are handing. Keep your swagger, just now drop the presidential hammer of any and everyone that defies the united states from getting back on its feet again. This would be create well-paying jobs, affordable housing, apartments,condos with revved up and upgraded pay and training to police officers. Funding for public schools first and foremost. And give every american on record a one time proud to be american note with $1,000.00 that is tax-free for what they wish to use it with. Take that thousand dollars and times it by every american in this country and send the checks out.

      many would say; "how the hell is that going to be paid for"? Simple--stop foreign funding which is over 10 billion dollars a month---a month. Take ten billion then times that by twelve months; so a thousand one time to all americans won't hurt a thing.

      then create a second stimulus package. This time though send overseers from your whitehouse party (including repukes) to make sure what funds are received in each state are utilized the way they should be. Jobs, homes, schools, and what every each city, states needs.

      this is our world, our time america. If we want our children to have a future, along with us adults to enjoy our lives now and to show the children that this is what america should truly be this let us all take a stand-----now!!!!
    • Utah Smitty  •  9 mths ago
      Either I'm confused, or the article is misleading. It says the rich would pay less tax???? So if a millionaire buys a Rolls Royce, he would pay less for it than a middle income person would for a Toyota Corolla???? Something doesn't add up.

      One more thing to consider: If you're wealthy and a business owner, you pay corporate tax, which cuts into your profitability, then you turn around and pay an income (consumption) tax on your salary, or whatever compensation you receive...

      If 42% of the workforce don't pay any income tax, as I've read in several articles, then something is seriously out of wack... As a teenager sailor in the early 1970's, I earned $208 a month. I still paid income tax, Social Security, AND paid for my uniforms... Why has that changes???

      Just wonderin'
    • ROY  •  9 mths ago
      Everyone talks about a tax being unfair without looking at all taxes and the entire taz system. For example, their are complaints that the federal income tax is unfair because it falls mainly on the wealthy (progressive) without considering that FICA takes almost as much total income, but has heaviest effect on the poor (regressive). And it is seldom mentioned that the poor pay a high percentage of their income in property tax (passed through their rent) and sales tas is regressive, If you add all taxes that people pay, you would find that we are close to having a flat tax now. Anyway, you shouldn't change/impose taxes without considering the entire tax system.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  9 mths ago
      it time to stop lying on capitalism because capitalism is tied to slave in one country to the next....its time we tear down slavery in all countries.....
    • A Yahoo! User  •  9 mths ago
      Listen, you poor simple minded liberals, if you would allow republicans to put the fair or flat tax into play, rich people would be paying the majority of taxes, but in a fair way, not because we forced them to. A poor man that buys a home that's worth 100,000 dollars and has already been lived in twice before by other families would not pay taxes on that home, because the fair tax would make it so that taxes can only be paid on something ONCE
      e, not over and over again like it is now. If a rich man builds a 20 million dollar home, he'll pay the taxes on it. Don't you get it? It's not that hard to understand.
      What seems to be the problem is what conservatives have known about liberals for a long time, and that is that they're selfish, they care only about themselves and not others. Liberals literally begrudge rich Americans for doing well. Is that what America is? "Be successful and we'll punish you, take your earnings and make you support those who aren't successful?" Hell no, and anyone that thinks so needs to move to Canada.
      I understand wanting the mansion, or the fancy cars, or just wanting to pay your bills, but being angry and wishing that everyone else didn't have those things just because you don't is selfish, and that attitude will only HINDER this country.
    • DT  •  9 mths ago
      Correction: republican congress..... middle class, let them eat cake.
      what do you mean rhetoric? republicans have voted to lower taxes for the very rich, and their very rich supporters have responded in kind with large donations.
      Just ask ricky parry who his donors are. one one them stands to make billions in handling nuclear waste in texas - if parry is elected.
      this is a fact.
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