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    Romney, Santorum square off over felons voting

    FLORENCE, S.C. (AP) — Seeking to protect his standing here, Republican presidential front-runner Mitt Romney on Tuesday assailed challenger Rick Santorum's record on voting rights for felons, an issue that resonates strongly with conservatives. Santorum separately argued that the former Massachusetts governor "promotes lies" as the two intensified their dispute from the previous night's GOP debate.

    "We have a candidate who's not going to stand up and tell the truth," Santorum told reporters in Charleston, complaining that Romney refuses to condemn TV ads run by his supporters. "That leads to real serious questions about whether that man can be trusted to tell the truth on a variety of things."

    But Romney, speaking separately in Florence, defended the accuracy of the ads in question, although he maintains he has no control over the negative commercials by outside groups that are flooding South Carolina in the days leading to Saturday's Republican primary.

    "I hear that Rick Santorum is very animated that the super PAC ad says that he is very in favor of felons voting," Romney said. "Well, he is! That's his position."

    While Santorum complained about the negative commercials during Monday's debate, Romney's three other challengers also tried a host of other attacks in hopes of knocking the former Massachusetts governor off stride.

    They kept the spotlight on the multimillionaire's wealth and business dealings by pressing him to release his income tax returns. Romney hesitated but eventually said he might make them public in April. By then, he hopes to have the presidential nomination in the bag.

    Speaking to reporters Tuesday, Romney seemed to qualify that even farther, suggesting that he would release just one year of his tax returns — not the six previous years that President Obama released or even the two years that John McCain released in 2008. "People will want to see the most recent year," Romney said.

    Romney also came under heavy pressure in the debate on the issue of his job-creation record at his former private equity firm Bain Capital, and his evolving views on abortion. Blamed for the tide of negative commercials, Romney stressed the independence of the super PACs that have been running ads in his behalf against Santorum, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and other rivals.

    On Tuesday, Santorum said that by refusing to condemn the ads, Romney "supports lies, promotes lies and stands behind those lies."

    Santorum was upset about an ad that says he "even voted to let convicted felons vote." Santorum complained that the TV spot, while referring to "felons," shows someone in an orange prison jumpsuit, suggesting Santorum would allow felons to vote while still incarcerated. Santorum has supported voting rights only for those who have served their sentences and been released.

    But Romney noted that "people who have been released from prison are still called felons if they've committed felonies."

    Meanwhile, Gingrich picked up the support of South Carolina Lt. Gov. Ken Ard, who appeared with him in Florence, calling the former U.S. House speaker the smartest and toughest candidate. Romney already has the more coveted endorsement of Gov. Nikki Haley, a tea party favorite, however.

    Monday's night's debate was as fiery as any of the more than dozen that preceded it. Romney, the man to beat after back-to-back wins in the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary, took heat not only from Gingrich and Santorum, but also from Rick Perry and Ron Paul.

    The five will meet again in debate in Charleston Thursday night, the last time they will share a stage before the primary two days later.

    Monday night, Romney said that while he might be willing to release his tax returns, he wouldn't do so until tax filing time. The multimillionaire former businessman didn't get much gratitude from his rivals, who want him to release the information in time to influence South Carolina voters going to the polls on Saturday.

    Gingrich was quick to suggest Romney wouldn't delay for months if he had nothing to hide and that his hesitation wouldn't sit well with voters. "Last night weakened him," Gingrich told CBS' "This Morning" on Tuesday.

    Romney seemed hesitant when confronted with the tax issue on stage. He at first sidestepped calls from his rivals to release his returns, then said later that he'd follow the lead of previous presidential candidates.

    "I have nothing in them that suggests there's any problem and I'm happy to do so," he said. "I sort of feel like we're showing a lot of exposure at this point," he added.

    The first Southern primary could prove decisive in the volatile contest. Gingrich has virtually conceded that a victory for Romney in South Carolina would assure his nomination as Democratic President Barack Obama's Republican rival in the fall, and none of the other remaining contenders has challenged that conclusion.

    That only elevated the stakes for Monday night's debate, where the attacks on Romney often were couched in anti-Obama rhetoric.

    "We need to satisfy the country that whoever we nominate has a record that can stand up to Barack Obama in a very effective way," said Gingrich.

    The five men on stage also sought to outdo one another in calling for lower taxes. Texas Rep. Ron Paul won that competition handily, saying he thought the top personal tax rate should be zero.

    In South Carolina, a state with a heavy military presence, the debate took on a martial tone at times.

    Gingrich drew strong applause when he said: "Andrew Jackson had a pretty clear idea about America's enemies. Kill them."

    Perry won favor from the crowd when he said the Obama administration had overreacted in its criticism of the four Marines who were videotaped urinating on corpses in Afghanistan.

    Gingrich and Perry led the assault against Romney's record at Bain Capital, a private equity firm that bought companies and sought to remake them into more competitive enterprises, with uneven results.

    "There was a pattern in some companies ... of leaving them with enormous debt and then within a year or two or three having them go broke," Gingrich said. "I think that's something he ought to answer."

    Perry referred to a steel mill in Georgetown, S.C., where, he said, "Bain swept in, they picked that company over and a lot of people lost jobs there."

    Romney said the steel industry was battered by unfair competition from China. As for other firms, he said, "Four of the companies that we invested in ... ended up today having some 120,000 jobs." And he acknowledged, "Some of the businesses we invested in were not successful and lost jobs."

    It was Perry who challenged Romney to release his income tax returns. The Texas governor said he has already done so, and Gingrich has said he will do likewise later in the week.

    "Mitt, we need for you to release your income tax so the people of this country can see how you made your money. ... We cannot fire our nominee in September. We need to know now," Perry said.

    Later, a debate moderator pressed Romney on releasing his tax returns. His response meandered.

    "If that's been the tradition I'm not opposed to doing that," Romney said. "Time will tell. But I anticipate that most likely I'm going to get asked to do that in the April time period and I'll keep that open."

    Prodded again, he said, "If I become our nominee ... what's happened in history is people have released them in about April of the coming year, and that's probably what I'd do."

    April is long after the South Carolina primary and the Republican nomination could easily be all but decided by then, following Super Tuesday contests around the country in March.

    ___

    Associated Press writers David Espo and Shannon McCaffrey in South Carolina and Connie Cass in Washington contributed to this report.

    ___

    Follow Shannon McCaffrey on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/smccaffrey13

     
    • I Love Everybody  •  3 mths ago
      SO...Romney is opposed to Felons voting.........................If you are a former Felon, and you vote for this Rediculous Romney, you're not ignorant, just plain studpid !
    • rogerd  •  Fort Worth, Texas  •  4 mths ago
      Felons can serve in congress, but can't vote! They can have multiple criminal convictions, but can still be mayor of D.C.- which is where congress is located, and where congress has control over the laws.
      • MICPL 4 mths ago
        I bet mitt has done many felonies .
      • Gail L 4 mths ago
        He has. Animal cruelty. If anyone else did what he did, they would have at least paid a fine. Don't forget that when he left office in Mass., he took a lot of sensitive documents with him and never returned them. HMM, I wonder what that was all about? He is a felon, just not convicted yet. Anyone who commits animal cruelty or commits violenc against those who can not defend themselves should be barred from government positions, having kids, and if need be, they should serve time like anyone else.
      • ChristineM 4 mths ago
        they're all crooks
    • Willie Bill  •  4 mths ago
      It is very easy to get convicted of a felony and there are many people that has been.Once you have been discharged from that crime then you should be free to vote,pay taxes and live a (normal) life (if there is one) or do you all want to condem?
      • Jacob 4 mths ago
        well said.. you have no choice but to pay taxes... and you don get a choice on who will over see your taxes at the ballot box.. there is somthing really wrong with that
      • jenny 4 mths ago
        We all know right from wrong ...so there in lies the trouble ..and there are several different felonies ...i think major felonies (like killing some one )should remain without rights to vote since you took someone elses away, i think child molesters should also lose their right to vote (along with other things !!!!) but laws are made to follow ...where do you draw the line ????
      • D. 4 mths ago
        Recall that New York State in the 1970s turned thousands of ordinary people into ..... felons....... only because they were found with pot.

        We have government slugs across the country and in every state and every county deciding that we the people are felons merely because THEY do not like how we live.
    • Scratchnpeck  •  4 mths ago
      Isn't that what the drug war is all about too? A little bit of grass and you're a felon, you lose your rights and it can ruin your life for a long time. Not being able to get a job is also a side effect of these policies. This is happening to thousands of our citizens, especially the younger generation is being effected. It's not the smoking the flowers that ruins your life, it's the people trying to stop them from smoking the flowers that are real problem. Freedom? What does it mean to you? Do you own your body or does it belong to the State? Right now, the State will punish you for putting something into your body, even if it doesn't effect anyone else but you. Why is that?
      • Gail L 4 mths ago
        Although I do not believe that a person should not serve a long sentence for smoking grass, I do believe that is your choice for smoking pot and knowing that this behavior is against the law, you made a bad choice. We all know that smoking dope is a gateway drug, then don't smoke pot then. I never smoked the stuff and I grew up with it all around me. I grew up with alcoholics and all sorts of stuff that I would not mention. I not only hate the smell of pot, but life is too difficult to make it more complicated to add drugs to the deal. I do have a drink once or twice on a weekend, but I do not have a need to drink all of the time.
        All in all, I can't stand any of the stooges running for office, because they are hypocrits and shameful at the same time. Even Ron Paul and his crazy ideas don't seem right to me. If Ron Paul was against the government telling people what to do then why is he anti-choice, and he was a doctor.
      • CARL 4 mths ago
        The consequences come from breaking the law and getting caught with the weed. If you don't want to lose your freedoms don't break the law, its really pretty simple.
      • Jacob 4 mths ago
        lol.. pot is a gate way drug? more like a gateway to the fridge in the kitchen. in all reality tabaco i a gate way drug if youwant to be technical about it.. since most have smoke a cig befor a joint
    • Jerry  •  Oklahoma City, Oklahoma  •  4 mths ago
      I have never understood the reasoning behind not allowing felons to vote. Once all of the time and fines are paid why would that right not be reinstated? Without the right to vote, doesn't no taxation without representation kind of kick in?
      • TYLER 4 mths ago
        the right to vote can be reinstated you must have your felonies exsponged after a certain amount of time. You have to go to court again then apply to vote. There are only a few law enforcement depts that will be able to see your records once they have been exsponged.
    • rustybucket55  •  Warren, Ohio  •  4 mths ago
      Can Gingrich vote? He was convicted of a ethics crime while speaker of the house!!!
      • Buck 4 mths ago
        It seems that nothing the legislature does is a felony. However, their behavior and disregard for their country is evident. I wonder how many crimes have been swept under the table by legislators, i.e.- DUI, drug offenses, prostitution, etc. Scary to have so many lawmakers who are above the law.
      • RFB 4 mths ago
        Gingrich can only be seen as unethical not law breaking since him and his cronies are shady enough to remove\change\or look for loop holes in laws. Gingrich has two things going against him in my book, a) a career politician b) very unethical.
      • Mike Sherwood 4 mths ago
        one of the reasons for major recession depression no one is willing to forgive and take by a case by case anecdotal position less qualified indies being promoted down hill spiral beta
    • bboy  •  4 mths ago
      If that is the case, quarter of U.S citizens can not vote.
    • jeremy  •  Louisville, Kentucky  •  4 mths ago
      So Mitt , You don't believe a man deserves a second chance in life ? See how quick their religion goes out the window ? Double talk losers . If someone pays their debt to society and is NOT on parole or probation why shouldn't he be able to vote ? I guess Mitt thinks you should pay for a mistake for your whole life . Just shows how far out of touch he is with America . When someone grows up in a world of million airs they don't have the real world experience to understand ALL of American needs .
    • Dan  •  Richardson, Texas  •  4 mths ago
      I think after a person has served his time, thats it, he has served his time. If not , being a felon is a life sentence in itself.
    • Dtrip  •  Palestine, Texas  •  4 mths ago
      10 years ago I had a felony DWI, I paid my dues and moved on with my life, own my own home and run a business. Stuff happens in life, I always laugh when people talk about felons and how bad they are and should not have certain rights yadda yadda. 50 years ago a felon was a real criminal not its just people caught up in the system and changing laws. In the 70's wasnt having a joint a felony?
    • rw113  •  4 mths ago
      They are both wrong! The Constitution provides that all citizens have a right to vote. Where is the exception? JOHN HANCOCK was a convicted felon, and signed his name to the Declaration of Independence (Big Letters as an up-yours to the King) and was a founding Father of the US - what, they intended that he lose his right to vote over tax conviction?
    • daniel  •  Kenosha, Wisconsin  •  4 mths ago
      no taxation without representation.
      so if a felon cant vote, then they shouldn't have to pay taxes.
    • Socialist Atheist on Food ...  •  4 mths ago
      If they can run for office, I don't see why they can't vote.
    • John  •  4 mths ago
      All Americans should be able to vote. They gain power with the more people that are not allowed to vote.
    • Zackary  •  Sioux Falls, South Dakota  •  4 mths ago
      I was convicted of a low level felony in 2001 for possession of 45 grams of marijuana. I have not used any illegal drugs or alcohol for 10 years and am a Christian minister today. If I am evil enough to be denied participation in democracy, then I should be in prison.
    • Dr.Lecter  •  Brush Prairie, Washington  •  4 mths ago
      I am a convicted felon myself. I made a big mistake in 1992 (1st degree burglary). I sought after the help I needed to change my life and still pursue it as my #1 priority in life. Today I own a small, successful business, own a home, have a healthy marriage, have a son, and 2 employees. I regret my mistake everyday. Living with a felony is no fun. No voting rights is a severe penalty in itself. Instead I make campaign contributions. I would love to rifle hunt again, but I can't. Archery is great though. There have been awkward moments when I have had to disclose that I am a felon - when I have purchased life insurance for example - and my insurance agent treated me different from that day on. People make mistakes. And I guess this is what discrimination may feel like, not as severe, but an idea nonetheless.
    • BillC  •  4 mths ago
      I thought we were a nation of second chances. If a one-time offender has served their time and deemed safe enough to be set free, then they should be considered safe enough to legally own firearms and vote. If they are not considered safe enough to legally own firearms and vote, then they should not be out on the street. Taking the rights away from citizens does not reduce crime; taking their freedom away does. It ain’t rocket science.
    • j  •  Owensboro, Kentucky  •  4 mths ago
      congressmen keep their pension when convicted
    • fighting bob  •  Neenah, Wisconsin  •  4 mths ago
      Can't thes guys debate something that's really important, like taxes and jobs.
    • Ryan  •  4 mths ago
      If felons couldn't vote how would Romney and Santorum get anything done?
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