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    Russia asks if US radar ruined space probe

    MOSCOW (AP) — Russia will look into the possibility that a U.S. radar station could have inadvertently interfered with the failed Mars moon probe that plummeted to Earth, Russian media reported Tuesday, but experts argued that any such claims were far-fetched.

    NASA spokesman Bob Jacobs also said the U.S. space agency was not using the military radar equipment in question at the time of the Russian equipment failure, but instead was using radar in the Mojave desert in the western United States and in Puerto Rico.

    Russia's state news agency RIA Novosti quoted Yury Koptev, former head of the Russian space agency Roscosmos, as saying investigators will conduct tests to check if U.S. radar emissions could have impacted the Phobos-Ground space probe, which was stuck in Earth's orbit for two months before crashing down near Chile and Brazil.

    "The results of the experiment will allow us to prove or dismiss the possibility of the radar's impact," said Koptev, who is heading the government commission charged with investigating causes of the probe's failure.

    U.S. experts suggested that the Russians should look for causes of the failure at home.

    "The Russian Space Agency would do themselves and the future of Russian planetary exploration some good to look inside the project and the agency to find the cause of the Phobos-Ground mishap," said Alan Stern, former associate administrator for science at NASA and now director of the Florida Space Institute at the University of Central Florida.

    The current Roscosmos head, Vladimir Popovkin, has said the craft's malfunction could have been caused by foreign interference. Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin acknowledged U.S. radar interference as a possible cause but said it was too early to make any conclusions and suggested the problem could be the spacecraft itself.

    "Practially all disruptions are due to flaws in the technologies manufactured 12 to 13 years ago," he said.

    Other space experts said the possibility of U.S. interference should be considered only after investigating all other possible causes.

    Alexander Zakharov, a specialist at the Space Research Institute, which developed the Phobos-Ground, called the suggestion "contrived" and doubted the United States has radar powerful enough to interfere with a spacecraft at an altitude of around 200 kilometers (124 miles).

    "You can come up with a lot of exotic reasons," Zakharov told RIA Novosti. "But first you need to look at the apparatus itself, and there is a problem there."

    The Phobos-Ground fell to Earth on Sunday in the vicinity of Chile and Brazil, but no confirmed impact sites have been reported.

    The $170 million craft was one of the heaviest and most toxic pieces of space junk ever to crash to Earth, but space officials and experts said the risks posed by its crash were minimal because the toxic rocket fuel on board and most of the craft's structure would burn up in the atmosphere high above the ground anyway.

    The Phobos-Ground probe was designed to travel to one of Mars' twin moons, Phobos, land on it, collect soil samples and fly them back to Earth in 2014 in one of the most daunting interplanetary missions ever. It got stranded in Earth's orbit after its Nov. 9 launch, and efforts by Russian and European Space Agency experts to bring it back to life failed.

    Phobos-Ground was Russia's most expensive and the most ambitious space mission since Soviet times. Its mission to the crater-dented, potato-shaped Martian moon was to give scientists precious materials that could shed more light on the genesis of the solar system.

    Russia's space chief has acknowledged the Phobos-Ground mission was ill-prepared, but said that Roscosmos had to give it the go-ahead so as not to miss the limited Earth-to-Mars launch window.

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    Associated Press writer Seth Borenstein contributed to this report from Washington, D.C.

     
    • Ray  •  4 mths ago
      There are so many things that can go wrong with a space launch - one poorly soldered electrical connection - one loose pipe fitting - one character in one line of computer code mistyped - it's a wonder they ever work. These things happen and will continue to happen - a certain level of loss has to be expected.
      • Hgldr 4 mths ago
        exactly
      • kschlege 4 mths ago
        aliens don't want us going to mars....
      • Abercrombie 4 mths ago
        Often the result of political pressure and over confidence. Seems maybe they had hardware/software glitches that didn't get debugged in the bus flight software in time for the launch window. Wonder if we'll ever know?
    • Allank  •  4 mths ago
      Ask the Iranians, they can bring down Drones with a ray gun lol
      • Yo Mero 4 mths ago
        Maybe not a ray gun, but they did take one down.
      • The Homster 4 mths ago
        They did, and the U.S. is eerily quiet on the subject. I'm not buying that they somehow were able, on their own, to find and exploit a backdoor to the drone.

        Had to be an inside job and I'll wager the NSA, CIA, and FBI are looking for a skunk somewhere in our intelligence agencies.
      • Mason 4 mths ago
        If Iran did it the way they say they did (GPS jamming, essentially), I'm surprised the drone didn't have an inertial measurement unit, or at least itself wonder why it suddenly moved many miles in a fraction of a second.
    • Kver  •  4 mths ago
      Again, the fault would lie with the Russians that designed it. The Radar spectrum has very few surprises, that's why Russia flies COSMOS elint missions over us 24/7/365, so they can determine where the Radar's are as well as frequency. No ship borne units would have that kind of power and I bet the one in Alice Springs is also plotted and known to them. This is a face saving maneuver on their part that is going to make them look really stupid in the long run.
      • Kirstin 4 mths ago
        Pretty much. Unfortunately, Russian failure analyses end up being a blame game, and that is precisely why they have so much trouble getting to the root of a problem -- with it all being about blame, nobody's really motivated to reveal when they know what caused the failure, since the blame will probably fall on them.
      • Joe 4 mths ago
        It's funny, even one of the people who helped designed it (The probe) was calling the suggestion that the US was to blame was "contrived"
      • ron 4 mths ago
        The Russians have to blame someone or something.It's either that or the gulag!
    • Largemouth  •  4 mths ago
      I think the paper clip failed after the rubber band broke.
      • Djadu 4 mths ago
        They use spit and poo poo - rubber is too expensive, besides not invented in Russian paradise like everything elseski!
    • Frank  •  Winchester, Kentucky  •  4 mths ago
      Foolish Earthlings.....it was my Illudium PU-36 Exploding Space Modulator that disabled the rocket booster of your Phobos-Grunt space probe thereby relegating it into a useless low earth orbit; my next plan is to vaporize your planet, because it still obstructs my view of Venus!!!
      • Daddy'sGrrll 4 mths ago
        Careful there, Marvin, or we'll sic Bugs Bunny on you again!
      • Wildgraywolf 4 mths ago
        LMAO
      • Ray 4 mths ago
        Venus, I would guessed you were looking at Uranus...
    • Fooki  •  4 mths ago
      Hmmm... 5 count them... 5 Russian rockets failed to even make it into orbit in 2011 - they blew up or fell to Earth... Yep thinking that the "U.S. experts suggested that the Russians should look for causes of the failure at home" might be onto something...
    • Larry Curly & Moe  •  Houston, Texas  •  4 mths ago
      I think we have reached a point no matter what happens its Americas fault
    • Texas Conservative  •  Richmond, Texas  •  4 mths ago
      Like we would tell you if we could bring down your satellites!!!!
    • Richard  •  Kansas City, Missouri  •  4 mths ago
      As far as this probe goes, this may be a valid question on the russian's part. It does not, however, do anything as far as addressing the filmed record of what destroyed the first probe while it was orbiting phobos. THAT is the real issue here.
    • Eric  •  4 mths ago
      Dude, My bad. I was up on the roof trying to get free Direct tv. If I would have known that could have happened I would have called the cable guy.
    • JESUS  •  Pleasanton, California  •  4 mths ago
      At least when the US had a Cold War with the Soviet Union nobody really got hurt... Much more civilized than the Middle East.... Those people are crazy! The US needs an enemy they can trust!!! Welcome back USSR!!!!
    • Thomas  •  4 mths ago
      Sorry Russa two pieces of debris was observed leaving this spacecraft after it went into orbit around the earth.My guess is your Zenit upper stage bumped your spacecrat on separation and caused damage.Since this debris left the spacecraft at low velocity this was not a propulsion explosion that was the caused of the debris but you screwed the pooch when your upper stage separated from the spacecraft.Quit blaming others for your failures in your launch process.
    • Svengali  •  4 mths ago
      Summer Glau downed it with her mind control...
    • URL_Lurker  •  4 mths ago
      This is so typical of the Russians. Remember when the Kursk sank? The Russkies swore up and down that one of our naval ships or subs ran into it. The real problem was that one of their own defective torpedoes blew up in the weapons bay.

      I guess those guys will blame anyone and anything but themselves to stay out of a Siberian gulag for the rest of their lives...
    • Walter Bishop  •  Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania  •  4 mths ago
      This is the Russian version of "The Dog Ate My Homework". Geesh. Radar? At least they could have come up with something more plausible like an AREA 51 Death Ray Test.
    • Bill  •  4 mths ago
      Why can't anyone ever take responsibility for anything anymore? I am so sick of people constantly blaming stuff on someone else. Grow up!
    • Les  •  4 mths ago
      Never mind the fact that the last probe they sent up also failed. Sure, blame America, everybody else does. Maybe Obama can go personally to Russia to apologize and offer to pay the Russians for their loss. Take some personal responsibility Russia! Your probe, your failure. Look to yourself to answers, don't blame somebody else.
    • roger l  •  4 mths ago
      In 1986, 89% of the Russian Politburo( central Government) was made up of Engineers..1986 89% U S central government made up of Lawyers...Our Lawyers are better Liars, than their Engineers..
    • Inscrutable 1  •  4 mths ago
      Sounds like a "RED HERRING" to me ....
    • Larry  •  Sydney, Australia  •  4 mths ago
      Yeah, that's it...it's our radar. Next time were going to use our potato-gun. What a bunch of morons, and we have our astronauts riding their rockets to the International Space Station.
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