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    Russia Eyes Possible Moon Base with NASA: Reports

    Russia is talking to NASA and the European Space Agency about building manned research colonies on the moon, according to Russian news reports.

    Russia's Federal Space Agency, known as Roscosmos, is also consulting with NASA and ESA about the possibility of placing manned space stations in lunar orbit, Russian news agency Ria Novosti reported Thursday (Jan. 19).

    A growing body of research supports the supposition that humanity can live for extended periods of time on or around the moon, Russian space agency chief Vladimir Popovkin said.

    "Today, we know enough about it, we know that there is water in its polar areas," Popovkin told the Vesti FM radio station Thursday, according to Ria Novosti. Popovkin added that "we are now discussing how to begin [the moon’s] exploration with NASA and the European Space Agency."

    Russian space officials have already begun investigating a "prospective manned transportation system" to the moon, Popovkin said.

    An effort to put boots on the lunar ground would complement Russia's existing robotic moon exploration plans. The nation hopes to send two unmanned missions, called Luna-Glob and Luna-Resource, to the moon by 2020, according to the reports.

    Spaceflight cooperation

    A partnership between Russia, NASA and ESA on a big human spaceflight project is not unprecedented; the three agencies have been working together for more than a decade to build and operate the International Space Station. And they're in active discussions — along with a handful of other space agencies — about how humanity should best explore outer space.

    In his latest comments about moon bases, Popovkin may be referencing these broad, overarching conversations, NASA officials said.

    "We believe Popovkin may be referring to the work of the International Space Exploration Coordination Group (ISECG) and its Global Exploration Roadmap," NASA spokesman J.D. Harrington told SPACE.com in an email. "NASA has been meeting with senior managers from Russia and nine other space agencies to advance coordinated space exploration. The ISECG, as this group is called, has developed a long-range human exploration strategy over the past year."

    The Global Exploration Roadmap begins with the space station and then expands human presence out into the solar system, leading ultimately to human exploration of the Martian surface, Harrington added. The roadmap identifies two possible pathways to Mars — going to an asteroid first, or going to the moon first.

    "Both pathways were deemed practical approaches addressing common high-level exploration goals developed by the participating agencies, recognizing that individual preferences among participating space agencies may vary regarding these pathways," Harrington said.

    A tough year for Russian spaceflight

    Russia may have caused some strain in its international partnerships in the wake of the failure of the country's Phobos-Grunt Mars probe, which crashed to Earth Sunday (Jan. 15). [Photos: The Phobos-Grunt Mission]

    The $165 million spacecraft got stuck in Earth orbit shortly after its Nov. 8 launch, when Phobos-Grunt's thrusters failed to fire as planned to send it toward the Red Planet. Roscosmos officials still aren't sure what caused the malfunction, but they speculated last week that some sort of sabotage may be responsible.

    Then, this week, some Russian space officials said that strong emissions from a United States radar station in the Marshall Islands may have accidentally brought Phobos-Grunt down. Outside experts regard that scenario as highly unlikely.

    Phobos-Grunt was just one of five high-profile failures for the Russian space program in 2011. The country also suffered three botched satellite launches and the crash of the unmanned Progress 44 supply ship, which was delivering cargo to the space station.

    The Progress 44 mishap was caused by a problem in the third-stage engine of its Soyuz rocket. Russia uses a similar version of the Soyuz to launch astronauts to the space station, so flights to the orbiting outpost were grounded temporarily this autumn until the problem was identified and fixed.

    You can follow SPACE.com senior writer Mike Wall on Twitter: @michaeldwall. Follow SPACE.com for the latest in space science and exploration news on Twitter @Spacedotcom and on Facebook.

     
    • C  •  3 mths ago
      I think that Europe has enough problems with countries collapsing and debt. The US has enough problems dealing with 16 trillion in debt. Go at this one alone Russia.
    • nevermind  •  3 mths ago
      no way... as soon as China abolishes a one-child policy, they will be the moon's first colonists... just need a really really big ladder...
    • MARK  •  4 mths ago
      Working together is a good thing.It also helps to solve other problems.
      • DeVon 4 mths ago
        I'm glad someone else thinks that way!
      • Daniel 4 mths ago
        Me too!
        One country: We made it to Mars!
        All countries: We reached to the Andromeda Galaxy!
    • Pass  •  4 mths ago
      Glad to see the agencies working collaboratively.

      as for the people who always say "why go to space when we can't even fix the economy" or Why go to the moon when we can't even take care of our planet"..... You're imbeciles. By that token, Columbus should never have been on a voyage since disease was still present in the world. Issac Newton shouldn't have been developing theories when i'm sure somewhere in Europe there were starving children at that same time. I mean do you people have no sense of adventure? if you want your priority to be fixing this planet... then do something instead of complaining about people trying to push towards the horizon.

      To be honest I hope they're looking for volunteers to occupy the colonies. perhaps in 30 years or so when i'm around 55, I'll have the chance to be a moon colonist.
      • Cheezmonta 4 mths ago
        The anti-science complainers don't realize that these type of ventures result in the development of massive amounts of new technologies. It is the physicists and engineers in the industries of innovation that actually drive an economy.

        That computer screen you're reading this is just such an example...
        Someone said "we need to make a thinner, lighter, higher picture quality monitor." They went to the physicists, mathematicians, and engineers to figure out what the exact requirements would be to make it. Everything from the power consumption and materials too figuring out how to pack it all into such a tiny container.
        Every tiny piece was designed by someone to fulfill a specific function. Even the micro screws holding it together with the metallurgy to the thread pitch.

        To be so completely ignorant as to ever utter the words "science is useless" is an unbelievable insult to humanity and progress.
      • Jason 4 mths ago
        To the anti-science complainers that say advanced space research doesn't do anything real for humanity or the economy - let me pose this to you: Do you like your cell phone? Do you feel cell phones have changed the way humans communicate? Do you feel that cell phones have added trillions of dollars into the global economy, and thousands of jobs around the world? Cell phones are pretty amazing.

        Yeah. Thank Blackhole research.
    • Walter  •  Alpine, Texas  •  4 mths ago
      Wow ! This is great news . I have noticed that the scientific community gets along fine when the politicos butt out . Their is something to be learned here that goes far beyond space exploration . Chalk another one up for mankind as a whole . I hope it happens .
      • Phoenix 4 mths ago
        Your comment is spot-on! If all countries with individual space efforts had consolidated funds, expertise and resources, mankind would be exploring the solar system and colonizing habitable planets by now instead of just orbiting the Earth or contemplating returning to the moon. Now its just too little too late!
      • Golf nut 4 mths ago
        X3 with you
    • Joel  •  4 mths ago
      It's amazing what we can accomplish when we work together instead of trying to kill each other.
      • Smokes 4 mths ago
        Then the Russians can sell our technology to the Taliban.
      • Golf nut 4 mths ago
        OH please Smokes. What are you smoking?
    • Stan Menna  •  Chicago, Illinois  •  4 mths ago
      Cool, this could be done easily and fairly cheaply. Forget a surface base, find an old cavern or lava tube and seal it, pressurize it and viola, a base protected from radiation and micrometeorites. Then you mine for raw materials to build other bases and research stations.
      • jer 4 mths ago
        You're kidding, right, Stan? The Moon has been geologically dead for a very, very long time. We won't find any caves or lava tubes and even if we did, seal it and pressurize it? Cheaply and easily? We can't even do that on Earth!
      • Merle 4 mths ago
        Might work, they could use a vacuum shovel.
      • Gracie 4 mths ago
        merle, your idea sucks.
    • Ricky  •  Lubbock, Texas  •  4 mths ago
      One BIG problem with a station in lunar orbit, radiation from sloar flares. The ISS, and other manned spacecraft are low enough that they are, for the most part, protected by Earths' magnetic field. Even then, the ISS crew sometimes has to go into a shelter section during a major solar storm. In lunar orbit, a spacecraft would be totally unprotected.
    • Daniel  •  4 mths ago
      This is important news indeed. In order to explore and learn more about the universe, many nations on the planet must work together under one banner: Humanity. Even though we have several differences such culture, government and religion, we all are humans. We need to make peace within each other. If we don't "evolve", as if change our mentality and reasoning, then we won't last long in the universe. Before, USA and Russia were at each other's throats during the Cold War. But today, we are starting to get along better in cooperation. Hopefully, US can do the same thing with other nations like Iran. The public, everyone, including myself, must be fully aware of the situation, from both sides and make the best possible solution that works out for everybody. If not, then we might as well suffer from our own ignorance.
    • Mike  •  Valley Springs, California  •  4 mths ago
      This should have been done much earlier, we are slacking in our space program.
    • Arbutus Dave  •  4 mths ago
      I'm glad that we're in contact with the Russians about the future of manned space exploration, but first we have to decide on our next step. Obama favors a trip to an asteroid, while Neil Armstrong would rather see us return to the moon. There are pros and cons for each mission, but in this case I'm inclined to trust Neil's judgment more than Barry's.
    • lonelystar  •  New York, New York  •  4 mths ago
      Totally agree with ProBono. And also it will be awsome to have Moon base.
    • Warrior From The Fortress  •  4 mths ago
      #$%$ it must be cool to be able to say that your a lunar architect.
    • ProBono  •  4 mths ago
      This is great news. It's silly for individual nations to spend huge amounts of money exploring and exploiting the solar system. By working together we can accomplish far more for much less of a strain on individual national budgets. Maybe we need a Human Spaceflight Agency composed of all the world's space-faring nations --- the US, the EU, Russia, India, China, Japan and a few others --- and sharing whatever knowledge and resources it discovers with the whole planet.
    • mikek  •  Omaha, Nebraska  •  4 mths ago
      to the moon Alice--got to be over 60 to get that one. Having grown up in the 50s and 60s in the heyday of the space program. Its hard to express the national feeling of excitement and the idea that we americans could do anything we set our minds to. Projects like the interstate highway system, the start of a medical and biological revolution and the uncountable scientific and engineering advances that make modern life possible had their beginnings during that time. It was a time of much needed social and political change but through it all, the nation had an hope in a better fuure and an expectation that america was going to sort itself out and be a stronger country. The social fabric was built on the concept of "us" and not "me" and the idea that for better or worse we rose or fell together. We really havent has a national goal since then and I think we are the poorer for it. We needa national project but for that we also need national vision and national leadership which, unfortunately has also been absent since the 60's.
    • Paul  •  Lincoln, Nebraska  •  4 mths ago
      Lots better for the envirerment than building bombs
    • Jim Colyer  •  Nashville, Tennessee  •  4 mths ago
      Cooperation in space is a good thing.
    • character101  •  De Pere, Wisconsin  •  4 mths ago
      Its an exciting idea but how many launches is that gonna be til u have the materials necessary to build these space stations. Lots of risks and money at stake. It would make for a quiter and possibly darker environment to conduct research. Sweet, I'd sign up to go.
    • Confidential  •  4 mths ago
      Moon Base Alpha!
    • Tony  •  4 mths ago
      @AliceMD - Umm you might want to re read the story again as you seem to miss the basic point of the story. Russia is working with NASA (USA) and the EU to build a base on or around the moon for all the nations to use. Not just Russia.

      Dear god what is wrong with you? The US is building a new shuttle to explorer space as our old shuttles were just plain old and outdated. Please learn the facts before you post and try and talk to the adults.
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