What your phone app doesn't say: It's watching

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LAS VEGAS – Your smart phone applications are watching you — much more closely than you might like.

Lookout Inc., a mobile-phone security firm, scanned nearly 300,000 free applications for Apple Inc.'s iPhone and phones built around Google Inc.'s Android software. It found that many of them secretly pull sensitive data off users' phones and ship them off to third parties without notification.

That's a major concern that has been bubbling up in privacy and security circles.

The data can include full details about users' contacts, their pictures, text messages and Internet and search histories. The third parties can include advertisers and companies that analyze data on users.

The information is used by companies to target ads and learn more about their users. The danger, though, is that the data become vulnerable to hacking and use in identity theft if the third party isn't careful about securing the information.

Lookout reported its findings this week in conjunction with the Black Hat computer security conference in Las Vegas.

Lookout found that nearly a quarter of the iPhone apps and almost half the Android apps contained software code that contained those capabilities.

The code had been written by the third parties and inserted into the applications by the developers, usually for a specific purpose, such as allowing the applications to run ads. But the code winds up forcing the application to collect more data on users than even the developers may realize, Lookout executives said.

"We found that not only users, but developers as well, don't know what's happening in their apps, even in their own apps, which is fascinating," said John Hering, CEO of the San Francisco-based Lookout.

Part of the problem is smart phones don't alert users to all the different types of data the applications running on them are collecting. IPhones only alert users when applications want to use their locations.

And while Android phones offer robust warnings when applications are first installed, many people breeze through them for the gratification of using the apps quickly.

Apple and Google didn't respond to requests for comment on Lookout's research.

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    William Tue Aug 10, 2010 03:48 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Not only that, but my phone decides what sites I can't look at all by itself. How messed up is that, bull@#$% that's what
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    Mr. Peabody Fri Jul 30, 2010 09:46 am PDT Report Abuse
    Brian sez --> "And as for your personal privacy? I really wouldn't worry too much. We are really not all that fascinating as individual data users, and only lucrative when packaged together anonymously as a market share."
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    Sorry Brian - but you need to get up to speed on this.... you should be worrying big time. Retailers and other corporations are working full bore to know everything about INDIVIDUALS on their premises to squeeze an extra dollar out of them. They want to target individual ads to you. They even want INDIVIDUAL PRICING based on your prior history with them. Corporations are beginning to store MASSIVE amounts of data in INDIVIDUALS and unchecked RFID technology is the holy grail for them. Patents are already filed that would allow stores to identify, TRACK, and observe individual people in their stores for behavioral studies. For example:

    You walk in the store past an RFID scanner. It picks up unique RFID signatures from your credit cards, store cards, or drivers license. It also identifies how much cash you have on you from the RFID chips in the paper currency in your wallet. Computers look you up in their database and compile an instant dossier on you. The know your name, previous shopping history, likely economic status based on how much cash you typically carry. You are then selected for today's "behavioral study". As you walk thru the store, embedded RFID scanners continually locate you and cameras are directed to follow you, observing what displays and products catch your attention, etc. This is a real patent on file along with many more tracking applications.

    Soon, if unchecked RFID technology will be able to literally track you around town - your location and time in various retailer databases. And worse.... all this stock piled data on you will be subject to subpoena. Any lawyer will be able to build a dossier on you including what you buy, where you go, how much cash you had on you at point A and point B, etc.

    Government will also be getting in on the action as well - studies have already been done showing that RFIDs embedded in tires or "fast pass" stickers for toll ways, etc. can be used to identify vehicles. Simply embed RFID scanners at strategic points in the roadways and the authorities will be able to compute the average speed of all vehicles on the road and automatically send speeding tickets to people who got from Point A to Point B too fast. Insurance companies will then want the resulting databases to identify how fast you drive, where your drive, how much you drive, etc.
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    Mr. Peabody Fri Jul 30, 2010 09:46 am PDT Report Abuse
    Brian sez --> "And as for your personal privacy? I really wouldn't worry too much. We are really not all that fascinating as individual data users, and only lucrative when packaged together anonymously as a market share."
    -------

    Sorry Brian - but you need to get up to speed on this.... you should be worrying big time. Retailers and other corporations are working full bore to know everything about INDIVIDUALS on their premises to squeeze an extra dollar out of them. They want to target individual ads to you. They even want INDIVIDUAL PRICING based on your prior history with them. Corporations are beginning to store MASSIVE amounts of data in INDIVIDUALS and unchecked RFID technology is the holy grail for them. Patents are already filed that would allow stores to identify, TRACK, and observe individual people in their stores for behavioral studies. For example:

    You walk in the store past an RFID scanner. It picks up unique RFID signatures from your credit cards, store cards, or drivers license. It also identifies how much cash you have on you from the RFID chips in the paper currency in your wallet. Computers look you up in their database and compile an instant dossier on you. The know your name, previous shopping history, likely economic status based on how much cash you typically carry. You are then selected for today's "behavioral study". As you walk thru the store, embedded RFID scanners continually locate you and cameras are directed to follow you, observing what displays and products catch your attention, etc. This is a real patent on file along with many more tracking applications.

    Soon, if unchecked RFID technology will be able to literally track you around town - your location and time in various retailer databases. And worse.... all this stock piled data on you will be subject to subpoena. Any lawyer will be able to build a dossier on you including what you buy, where you go, how much cash you had on you at point A and point B, etc.

    Government will also be getting in on the action as well - studies have already been done showing that RFIDs embedded in tires or "fast pass" stickers for toll ways, etc. can be used to identify vehicles. Simply embed RFID scanners at strategic points in the roadways and the authorities will be able to compute the average speed of all vehicles on the road and automatically send speeding tickets to people who got from Point A to Point B too fast. Insurance companies will then want the resulting databases to identify how fast you drive, where your drive, how much you drive, etc.
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    RlK Thu Jul 29, 2010 08:03 pm PDT Report Abuse
    AKA the movie with Bruce Willis, Surrogates. Lazy :P
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    RlK Thu Jul 29, 2010 08:03 pm PDT Report Abuse
    This reminds me of the Shia LeBeouf flick Eagle Eye. Next stop, life size robot sex dolls with independent AI. Uh-oh! Nerds getting boners!
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    RON H Thu Jul 29, 2010 07:53 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Christopher C,

    You don't know jack dude. Why does my Black Berry always display a blue "911" triangle under the time intermittently? Why does my phone turn itself on and off when it wants to? Why do my icons continually shift themselves on the screen? It is not that I have such a magnetic personality- it is because of our glorious f'n govt that this happens. I guess that when you challenge and question any of the higher ups and are classified as an enemy of the state you get the royal treatment of eaves dropping, tracking, swabbing of the hands every time that I fly, etc.. They stopped with the rubber gloves because I enjoyed it too much- I believe it was Massa giving a tickle inspection. LMAO. Get a grip dude. This is the next Russia that will be under subjugation by the Muslim @#$%-wipes with our paid and "elected offficials' blessings.
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    me Thu Jul 29, 2010 07:51 pm PDT Report Abuse
    This is the world we are headed towards....the corporations run it all. They have the rights and the people have no choice....Walmart will unveil clothing that they can track even after you have bought it and taken it home and be able to tell what all you have in your house.....this is the direction we are headed. Its like a science fiction movie becoming for real.
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    Andrew B Thu Jul 29, 2010 07:16 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Where the proof that "they" have information from our phones? Its easy to make claims but real data would be more compelling. Lookout makes software to "protect" phones from data theft and to help with backup. That tells me they have a vested interest in urging people to buy their software. I do feel there are threats to the data but don't go throwing out an opinion without evidence.
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    Westsider Thu Jul 29, 2010 05:15 pm PDT Report Abuse
    If you seen what I have access to you will find wikileaks don't know nothing about secrets. Tell you what you want to hear also so don't follow close.
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    Bubbleburster21 Thu Jul 29, 2010 04:00 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Big Brother is watching you

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