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    SPIN METER: GOP flips on job creation for defense

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The same Republicans who insist that federal spending doesn't create jobs and should be cut in the face of staggering deficits are leading the charge against smaller military budgets because about a million defense jobs would be lost.

    Pentagon accounts are coming down, and Republicans who repeatedly reject the idea that an infusion of federal dollars can produce new jobs now say the government should keep billions flowing to the makers of guns, tanks, aircraft and ships for the sake of sparing jobs in home districts and states. It's the newest of several arguments against reducing Pentagon budgets.

    The contradiction undercuts the GOP's anti-government spending mantra that proved successful for the party in 2010 congressional races in which Republicans reclaimed the House — a pitch sure to be repeated by candidates in 2012 contests.

    Then and now, Republicans fill the campaign airwaves, news releases and stump speeches with the argument that Democratic spending — and specifically President Barack Obama's $825 billion stimulus package in 2009 — doesn't create jobs. Just this August, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said they were wrong, estimating that in the second quarter of this year alone, the spending package increased the number of people employed by between 1 million and 2.9 million.

    Consider the latest argument from Republicans on the House Armed Services Committee as lawmakers stare down at least $450 billion in cuts from projected defense spending over the next 10 years.

    Running for re-election, Rep. Howard "Buck" McKeon, R-Calif., said in February 2010 that the stimulus package did not create new jobs. In a statement about the economy and jobs now on his website, McKeon says "congressional Democrats and the administration continue to insist that we can spend our way out of this recession and create jobs, but the numbers just don't add up."

    But at a hearing last week, McKeon, now the committee chairman, argued against cuts to the military, saying, "We don't spend money on defense to create jobs. But defense cuts are certainly a path to job loss, especially among our high-skilled workforces. There is no private sector alternative to compensate for the government's investment."

    He later added, "While cuts to the military might reduce federal spending, they harm national security and they definitely don't lead to job growth."

    Asked about the competing statements, a spokesman for McKeon, Claude Chafin, said they were "not inconsistent" because the defense industry is a unique recipient of federal dollars.

    The Pentagon is facing reductions of nearly half a trillion dollars, stemming in large part from the limits set in the debt accord reached this summer between Obama and congressional Republicans. Republicans and Democrats, as well as the Pentagon, fear that the special bipartisan panel looking to slash the deficit won't be able to come up with a plan in three weeks to cut at least $1.2 trillion in spending over 10 years. If they can't, automatic, across-the-board cuts of $1.2 trillion kick in, with half coming from defense.

    McKeon's remarks came at a hearing in which the GOP-led panel had invited three economists to testify about the potentially dire consequences of defense cuts.

    One of the witnesses, Stephen S. Fuller, a professor at George Mason University, had conducted an analysis of defense cuts and the economic impact for the defense industry. He told the Armed Services Committee that an estimated 1 million jobs would be lost if defense spending cuts totaled $1 trillion. Hardest hit would be California, with 125,800 jobs lost, and Virginia, with 122,800. The two states have a significant number of aerospace and defense workers.

    That prompted Rep. Randy Forbes, R-Va., to echo McKeon in warning about potential job losses if the federal spigot of defense dollars is turned down.

    "We need to put those costs on the table when we're saying, OK, over here you're going to save all this. We need to let all these states and people know we're not saving it; we're just passing it on to you, because basically you're going to lose a lot of jobs in making this decision," Forbes said at the hearing.

    It was Forbes who wrote on Oct. 24: "The government has tried its hand at job creation by pouring money on the problem, picking winners and losers in the industry, and imposing stifling regulations. It has not worked."

    Questioned about his comments, Forbes said in an interview that federal spending does create jobs, but his argument — and that of other Republicans — is "the federal government never creates jobs as efficiently as the private sector creates jobs."

    The Defense Department's budget has nearly doubled to $700 billion in the 10 years since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Those numbers reflect the base budget, now more than $500 billion, plus the billions spent on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, money that wasn't paid for with tax increases or offsetting spending cuts.

    Robert Pollin, a professor at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst who has compared job creation from military spending to other sectors, said dollars for defense certainly would create jobs.

    "It's no surprise to say, with $700 billion ... you better be creating a lot of jobs," Pollin said.

    The issue, however, is how many jobs.

    A study that Pollin and Heidi Garrett-Peltier conducted in 2009 found that spending $1 billion on health care, education or clean energy, or cutting taxes, created more jobs across all pay ranges than spending the equivalent amount on the military. Investment in education generated about 29,100 jobs from $1 billion in spending compared with 19,600 jobs from health care, 17,100 from clean energy and 11,600 from the military, according to the analysis.

    "Channeling funds into clean energy, health care and education in an effective way will therefore create significantly greater opportunities for decent employment throughout the U.S. economy than spending the same amount of funds with the military," the two wrote in a study based on Commerce Department data.

    Pollin said Thursday that an updated study is forthcoming — and the conclusions are the same.

    Said Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass.: "Defense spending is a poor way to create jobs. You can create more jobs investing in other areas."

    EDITOR'S NOTE _ An occasional look behind the rhetoric of public officials.

     
    • d  •  6 mths ago
      If the government doesn't create jobs why do the haters blame Obama for not creating jobs?
      • Anonymous 6 mths ago
        I'm sure there is a very Dark reason behind it. But my crystal ball is pure Blackness, so I can't see the answer. Maybe I'll get out the Colored tarot cards and give them a try.
      • PeedNUrGenePool 6 mths ago
        The Republican mantra is that Obama must be blamed for everything, so they can get back into power and support the 1%.
        ***
        However, in obstructing any progress our Government might make to improve things, the REPUBLICANS are abandoning their Oath of Office. In doing so, they are committing a treasonous act against the country.
      • Steve 6 mths ago
        Civilian defense is the primary role of the federal government...not sticking it's nose in the business of americans citizens then charging them through taxes. This whole article is a logical fallacy design to support the political opinion of the AP and author. Sickening show of partisan media!
    • Norm  •  6 mths ago
      President Eisenhower's farewell address to the nation, January 1961:

      “In the counsels of Government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the Military Industrial Complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals so that security and liberty may prosper together.“
      • Norm 6 mths ago
        Ron Paul 2012
      • donl01 6 mths ago
        I agree.
      • donl01 6 mths ago
        Maybe Ron Paul makes sense.
    • d  •  6 mths ago
      So anyday now those Bush tax cuts are going to kick in. It cracks me up that they can feed the same nonsense to the meatheads over and over and over again. The alledged job creaters are laughing all the way to the bank at the fickle mushheads that make up the rightwing electorate
      • John 6 mths ago
        They are job destroyers! Look at bank of america and whirlpool...to name a couple.
        Bank of America, laying off 30,000 people.......break that bank into 5 pieces!
      • Gw Bush 6 mths ago
        you are so wrong, Bof A is a "JOB CREATOR" ! ask the tea baggers!
    • MLA  •  6 mths ago
      Republicans only oppose the gravy-train ride ending, of taking in billions of dollars, on tax free profits, from income from military contracts. Republicans don't love the military personnel; they love the profits from military spending for their companies (Hallaburton).
      • Gw Bush 6 mths ago
        as its the tea bagger/repubs wanting to cut VETS bennifits!
    • John  •  6 mths ago
      Democrats' spending is socialism.
      Republicans' spending is patriotism.
      What c**p!
      • Nathan 6 mths ago
        Corporate welfare is expensive these days.
      • Philip 6 mths ago
        they eat it up like it was ice cream
      • Clay J Titan 6 mths ago
        Foreign welfare is the worst.
        Vote Ron Paul he wants to keep the money here at home.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  6 mths ago
      GOP is fine with starving Senior citizens in the street...but by god you better not cut a dime of the over-bloated military war machine!
    • Jim M  •  6 mths ago
      Hypocrisy is a core Republican virtue. Nothing new here.
    • TM  •  6 mths ago
      So socialism is OK for war profiteers and oil cartels?
    • Jabberwocky  •  6 mths ago
      We have 500 military bases. We send billion dollar ships with a crew of 300 to
      attack 6 pirates in a motor boat. We spent $500,000,000,000 to fight an enemy
      in Afghanastan that does not have an air force, a navy or an army and we haven't won.
      Do you see a problem here?
    • BigZ  •  6 mths ago
      So, the republicans want to cut veteren's benefits, vote against giving veteren's jobs after their service, but won't cut a dime for the miltary-industrial corporations. Who do they serve?
    • NICKY  •  6 mths ago
      what? more GOP flip-floppers? no! say it isn't so! its not spending if WE want it so bad....They don't listen to economists or the Congressional Budget Office, or Professors, they listen to T Bagger idiots who think through their A holes! what the heck happened to REAL republicans anyway? Republicans who thought more about the American people than $$$$$$? or at least pretended to? these idiots have to be stopped. vote democratic in 2012 or write in a looney tune character of your choice. BUGS BUNNY for congress! DAFFY DUCK for senate! Jeez, they would do a better job. no doubt
    • Blue Planet  •  6 mths ago
      Unless you are filthy rich there is no excuse for voting republican.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  6 mths ago
      We're only "Broke"...until we're talking about the Defense budget....Then all of a sudden "Hey, we're the United States...The richest country on Earth..We need a strong military!"....It's just pathetic right wing ideological crapola!
    • Wild Wes  •  6 mths ago
      I'm still waiting for the explosion of jobs that followed Bush's tax cuts...and waiting...and waiting...and waiting
    • Bradley America  •  Minneapolis, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Imagine if we spent as much on education as we did on war and politics.
    • Norm  •  6 mths ago
      “There is a demand today for men [or women] who can make wrong appear right.”

      -Emerson-
    • GabeF  •  New York, United States  •  6 mths ago
      Neo con is no longer neo conservative - it's Neo Confederacy, and it appears it's becoming harder and harder to reason with a large voting bloc that has simply lost touch with the necessary realities and responsibilities of governing 300 million people.
    • Marke  •  6 mths ago
      We can't downsize the military too much, the republicans will want to attack another country soon for no reason other than Oil and War profiteering. What is the value of the 4,500 American soldiers who died in Iraq, that had NO WMD's and had NOTHING to do with 9/11?
    • Eric1  •  6 mths ago
      WHY, after the past THIRTY YEARS, does ANYONE listen to the GOP on either Economic, Foreign Policy, or Military matters? Ronald Reagan and his 'voodoo economics' are what purposefully changed the US from a MANUFACTURING to a 'service' industry country, and in a ‘service industry’ country, manufacturing jobs go overseas, IPSO FACTO! Add his notions of 'deregulation' resulting in the Savings and Loan collapse and economic crisis, and any notion of GOP ‘economic sense’ should have gone right out the window at that time, but nooo!

      George Bush Sr LOST his re-election bid. Why? "It's the Economy, STUPID!' Remember THAT? Remember WHY? Another GOP-produced RECESSION, only THAT time, it finally resulted in a Democratic President, and in just a couple years, a rebounding US economy.

      George Bush Jr ALSO deregulated, and what was the result? The biggest economic DISASTER for this country since the 'Great Depression!' So knowing all of this, WHY does ANYONE with an ounce of sense listen to the GOP NOW? What is WRONG with you people????
    • PeedNUrGenePool  •  6 mths ago
      Yawn.....another article saying Republicans are Liars and Hypocrites.
      ****
      I already knew this...
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