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    Struggling in US, F-35 fighter pushes sales abroad

    TOKYO (AP) — Detractors say the F-35 stealth fighter, the costliest military plane ever, is destined to go down as one of the biggest follies in aviation history. But it may have found a savior: deep-pocketed U.S. allies hungry to add its super high-tech capabilities to their arsenal.

    The program marked a major success last month when Japan chose it over the Boeing F/A-18 and the Eurofighter Typhoon as a replacement for 42 aircraft in its aging air force. It was the F-35's first victory in an open-bidding competition, though countries from Britain to Israel previously made commitments and others are expected to follow.

    Manufacturer Lockheed Martin also is looking to bring F-35s to South Korea in a deal that could be Seoul's biggest single defense outlay ever — 60 top-of-the-line fighters worth more than $7 billion. A decision could come as soon as October.

    In the U.S., however, the stealth jet has been called a boondoggle. John McCain, the ranking Republican on the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee, has slammed the F-35 as a "scandal and a tragedy," a "train wreck" and "incredibly expensive."

    With U.S. defense budget cuts looming and many critics of the program still unconvinced, foreign support is a make-or-break issue for the program, which has been described as too big to fail. It could become the cornerstone of global air strategy for the next few decades, or a trillion-dollar bust.

    "The U.S. fighter jet industry has all of its eggs in this one basket," said Richard Bitzinger, a security expert at Singapore's Nanyang Technological University. So many countries have bought into the program, he said, there is now no realistic choice but to forge ahead with it.

    "It would be almost impossible for the U.S. to cancel the F-35, since the repercussions would be global," he said.

    The F-35 is the world's only "fifth generation" fighter jet, combining state-of-the art stealth technology with highly advanced avionics and maneuverability. The first F-35 flew in 2006, and 42 have been produced so far. China and Russia are working on rival — and some experts say superior — aircraft.

    About 130,000 people in 47 states and Puerto Rico have jobs related to the project. The only states without F-35 work are Hawaii, North Dakota and Wyoming.

    "Simply put, there is no alternative to the F-35 program. It must succeed," Secretary of the Air Force Michael Donley said in September.

    The Pentagon envisions buying 2,443 F-35s for the U.S. Air Force, Marine Corps and Navy, but some members of Congress and Department of Defense officials are balking at the price tag, which has jumped from $233 billion to $385 billion. Some estimates suggest it could top out at $1 trillion over 50 years, making it the most expensive program in military history.

    In frustration over cost overruns, Congress added a requirement that Lockheed Martin cover extra costs on future F-35 purchases to the defense bill it passed last month.

    "The delays and cost increases that F-35 has suffered have put it under substantial political pressure in Washington, so a win like the Japan program is a major boost," said James Hardy, Asia Pacific specialist with IHS Jane's in London.

    Success rides heavily on foreign investment because the more F-35s are produced, the cheaper each jet is to build and maintain.

    Lockheed Martin, in conjunction with Northrop Grumman, Pratt & Whitney and BAE Systems, has been careful to bring in international partners. The fighter is being developed with support from Britain, Norway, Denmark, Holland, Italy, Turkey, Australia and Canada.

    Among the leading international partners, the U.K. is planning to buy 138 F-35s, Italy 131 and Canada 65. Australia has ordered 14 and has plans to buy as many as 100 for 16 billion Australian dollars ($17 billion).

    The Israeli government selected the F-35A as its air force's next generation aircraft in 2010 — making it the first country to receive the F-35 through the U.S. government's Foreign Military Sales process.

    Singapore also has said it will buy F-35, although it hasn't set numbers yet, and there may be longer-term interest from Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Brazil and India, said Hardy, of IHS Jane's.

    The wide range of buyers is in contrast to Lockheed Martin's last stealth fighter, the now discontinued F-22 "Raptor." It was hailed as a wonder of technology but failed in large part because Congress deemed it too sensitive to sell even to Washington's closest allies.

    Narushige Michishita, a professor at the National Graduate Institute for Policy Studies who has advised the Japanese government on defense issues, said he thinks the F-35 is Japan's best option.

    "If this was about a Cold War-type competition, then the F-22 would have been better. But if this is a long-term peacetime competition, you need numbers and presence, and close coordination among allies," Michishita said.

    But defense analyst Carlo Kopp of the private Air Power Australia think tank said he thinks it was a mistake for his country and others to buy in. He said the F-35 program should have been canceled years ago and that the policy of pushing forward with it at any cost only threatens to create a budgetary sinkhole that would weaken the defenses of the U.S. and its allies.

    "It will never become a viable combat aircraft due to cumulative poor choices made early in the design, and later Band-Aid fixes," Kopp said.

    Further cost increases could prompt foreign buyers to cut their orders, which would put even more pressure on Lockheed Martin. Other problems also continue to trouble its international partners:

    — Concerns about whether Lockheed will be able to deliver on time prompted Australia to caution that it won't decide until later this year whether to buy any more than the 14 ordered so far.

    — Structural glitches have emerged that compromise the F-35's ability to land on aircraft carriers. That's a big issue for Britain, where the plane is slated to replace its carrier-friendly Harrier jets by 2020. British media have also reported that the F-35 can't fire British air-to-air missiles.

    — Canada and Norway may have difficulty operating the F-35 on icy runways. The plane's single-engine design — unlike the twin-engine F-22 or F-15 — could also be an issue. If the engine goes out, planes and pilots in the Arctic could be lost.

     

    79 comments

    • John  •  Federal Way, Washington  •  3 mths ago
      30% of it's capability is lost due to needing a cockpit with the big bubble canopy on top and the pilot inside waiting to pass out due to high g forces. Future should be pilotless aircraft. F35 will prove that if built. uav (unmanned aerial vehicle) is the future! All this is is a one engine F22 which is over 30 year old technology. There was a lot of rework due to quality assurance out of control! One sub-contractor made over a billion dollar mistake on the F22 program. Did the taxpayer pay for this idiotic f/u?!? Defective parts were actually installed on the F22 initially then had to be reworked thus the 1.2 bil. dollar screw-up! Sure hope they do not use the same sub-contractor.
    • Joe  •  Lansdale, Pennsylvania  •  4 mths ago
      Why don't we develop a cure for cancer, or an alternative fuel or something along those lines and sell that to the world?
    • Ann  •  Tampa, Florida  •  3 mths ago
      The article misses a BIG point: we do not have a stealthy jet on our fleet of carriers. That is a huge disadvantage for one of the most important elements in our defense strategy, and it WILL be resolved by the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. We cannot achieve the full potential of our carrier investment without a stealthy plane to complement it. Just my 2 cents. GO F-35!
    • glen  •  Jacksonville, Florida  •  4 mths ago
      Cost Overruns...Is this a surprise?
    • Christopher M.  •  Surfside, California  •  4 mths ago
      Yup, just sell our super technology to foreign country who one day may use them against us, or worse. Non allies steeling the technology from them and using it against us. The US is sooooo screwed.
      • Rikard 4 mths ago
        This is why the F-22 wasn't sold to anyone. Freaking Australia wanted it & we wouldn't give it to them. The F-35 is akin to todays F-16 while the F-22 replaces the F-15. The US hasn't given anyone the plane they will rely on to achieve air superiority. Besides, the sheer number of planes the US has at its disposal makes other nations aircraft almost irrelevant.
      • Carl 4 mths ago
        No. 1 in the world-USAF, 2. USN 3. USA 4. USMC. We have the four largest air forces in the world. Can you say insane?
      • Imran 4 mths ago
        So the allies Australia, Korea, Japan and Britain going to attack USA?? LOL some peoples 'out of box' thinking is amazing...
    • freedomwave  •  4 mths ago
      sell it to china russia mid eastern countries.then this war machine will kill american lives if war broke bout and the countries who have this is anti american. really bad.
      • Bobby 4 mths ago
        The cheaper PAK-FA & J-20 will triumph by sheer numbers! E.g. hundreds vs few tens?
      • Mike 4 mths ago
        Freedom, exactly! One BIG mistake. It is much like selling a bomb without the fuse...which would be sold seperately with instructions of how to install it. It should not be legal to sale weapons of any type to other countries.
      • Edward W 4 mths ago
        China and Russia already have FAR SUPERIOR designs in the "pipeline". It would be a DOWNGRADE for them to acquire a fighter jet like the F-35.
    • CapitalistNature  •  Las Vegas, Nevada  •  3 mths ago
      I think the US Navy should take a close look at Boeing's F15 Silent Eagle. It has a battle proven chassis and not a single loss in combat. The F15 can still out maneuver its competition and at a cheaper cost. Now Boeing introduced the Silent Eagle which gives it a measure of stealth and gen 5 avionics. It will be a formidable air superiority fighter with strikefighter capability. Its a win win alternative.
    • .  •  4 mths ago
      Would McCain prefer USA fight enemies F-35s with USAs old, no-stealth F-15s, slow no-stealth A-10s? All USA fighters are aging.
      • Responsible 4 mths ago
        The F-15 and F-22 are both stealth plane we already have. Both planes have two engines unlike the F-35. Just with the money spent on designing it we could have built over 250 F-22 not including all the money saved from buying the over price F-35 planes. They should have stayed with the F-22 or only paided for what was in the contract.
      • marcus 4 mths ago
        In a word YES. The F15 is only old. It is still one of the most potent dogfighters flying. The F15 with the F16 and F18s in the hands of trained pilots are probably more lethal than the rivals.
      • Rikard 4 mths ago
        So many problems here. Ok the A-10 is slow because it's used for ground attack, not air-to-air dogfighting. The F-15 is not stealth. The F-22 couldn't do all the missions the F-35 is being built to fulfill. i.e. It's not a carrier aircraft, it wasn't built to be a ground attack aircraft, and it can't be adapted for VTOL. While I agree that the Airforce should have more of the F-22's to ensure they can maintain air superiority, it can't meet the Navy or Marine requirements, so a new plane would have been necessary eventually anyway.
    • guaranteed  •  3 mths ago
      The only thing I think should be a consideration in this matter is how the hell does it perform? Will it shoot other fighters out of the sky? Will it deliver ordnance to specified areas? To worry about cost at this stage of the game is futile hand wringing. Just prove it will do the job then sell them to our allies to cover the cost of producing them.
    • Ryan  •  3 mths ago
      Story: "..China and Russia are working on rival — and some experts say superior — aircraft..." So we'll run up the EU, American, Japanese, and Austrailian debt for something inferior to a Sino-Russian design? Is Sen. McCain right?
    • Responsible  •  Mobile, Alabama  •  4 mths ago
      The worst thing about this plane is the combat range not even 600 nmi. The F-15 combat range is almost twice as long.

      What is the point of a plane that can not fly very far, fight half as long, alway need to land to refuel, and this thing cost alot more then the F-15SE.
    • WildBillCody  •  Binghamton, New York  •  4 mths ago
      By the way, they claim that Russia and China are working on "superior" technology is a bit of nonsense.

      We are at the 6th generation of planes, the F22 Raptor is the fastest air superiority jet on the planet, pulling off maneuvers in which the G's are so bad that pilots are passing out and NOT regaining consciousness fol several seconds . This means we are pushing the boundaries of fighter jet aviation. Unless Chinese and Russia technology can overcome these G's(not likely) then there is NOTHING that they can build that would be "superior".

      Now think of this folks, we have stealth technology in which G's don't matter, we have pilotless planes...

      SO unless China and or Russia can build similar technology in which pilotless planes rule the day, then neither of those countries will gain superiority over our Air Forces.
    • Kwang Yi  •  4 mths ago
      Korean government has always been the significant procurer of US manufactured military arsenals, including some 40+ F15s costing tens of billions in the last decade alone, and now the prospects of purchasing equal number of F35.
      Unlike other governments of the world scamming the US taxpayers, they pay cash instead of US government aids, which is real beneficiary on its people, sustain our domestic job market while helping to reduce our trade deficits, which is bankrupting our nation. It’s nice to have true friend and an allied, with its military aiding American counterpart to check ever growing sphere of influence by commie Chinese regime, and further to maintain stability in the Far East.
    • Barry  •  Colorado Springs, Colorado  •  4 mths ago
      This aircraft would face the following Su-27 Flanker, Mirage 2000, the Rafale, and perhaps the EF200 Typhoon and the Mig-29 plus new fighters in China, we have the AV-8B Harrier the A-10 Thunderbolt the F-16, F-15, the F-22 and the F117A Nighthawk the F-18 and others this aircraft cannot overcome or do all the special requirement of those above.
    • Ted Stosterone  •  3 mths ago
      As long as they don't end up in the hands of IRAN like the F 14's they have...

      I think a "disable" chip would be an excellent idea...
    • CHALLENGER_2  •  3 mths ago
      Why complains about increase of the cost of the programs are coming without addressing the reasons? Isn't it because the reasons are: the Unions? Is it more dangerous to name the culprits than to fail the defense programs?
    • Steve A  •  4 mths ago
      This piece of junk is going to be the undoing of the American armaments industry. We will lose face all over the world because of this shambles of a plane.
    • DeanA  •  4 mths ago
      With 130,000 people having jobs related to this project, there is no choice but to keep moving forward?? If the plug was pulled now it certainly would make the unemployment numbers look bad, and right before elections too, good point.
    • .  •  4 mths ago
      Military is investing lots of time and money into drones to replace fighter/surveillance aircraft. Seems military is pushing for more automation to replace people - like manufacturing has done. There are remotely controlled vehicles and weapons on land, sea and air. Mainly submarines and large ships and large supply aircraft rely heavily on people.
    • Serious Shepherd  •  4 mths ago
      Sell it to Saudis and it's going to be like selling F-14 to the Shah of Iran.
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