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    Study shows deeper meltdown at Japan nuke reactor

    TOKYO (AP) — Radioactive debris from melted fuel rods may have seeped deeper into the floor of a Japan's tsunami-hit nuclear reactor than previously thought, to within a foot from breaching the crucial steel barrier, a new simulation showed Wednesday.

    The findings will not change the ongoing efforts to stabilize the reactors more than eight months after the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant was disabled, but they harshly depict the meltdowns that occurred and conditions within the reactors, which will be off-limits for years.

    The plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. said its latest simulation showed fuel at the No. 1 reactor may have eroded part of the primary containment vessel's thick concrete floor. The vessel is a beaker-shaped steel container, set into the floor. A concrete foundation below that is the last manmade barrier before earth.

    The fuel came within a foot of the container's steel bottom in the worst-case scenario but has been somewhat cooled, TEPCO's nuclear safety official Yoshihiro Oyama said at a government workshop. He said fuel rods in the No. 1 reactor were the worst damaged because it lost cooling capacity before the other two reactors, leaving its rods dry and overheated for hours before water was pumped in.

    The nuclear crisis following the March 11 earthquake and tsunami caused massive radiation leaks and the relocation of some 100,000 people.

    Another simulation on the structure released by the government-funded Japan Nuclear Energy Safety Organization, or JNES, said the erosion of the concrete could be deeper and the possibility of structural damage to the reactor's foundation needs to be studied.

    JNES official Masanori Naito said the melting fuel rods lost their shape as they collapsed to the bottom of the vessel, then deteriorated into drops when water pumping resumed, and the fuel drops spattered and smashed against the concrete as they fell, Naito said.

    TEPCO and government officials are aiming to achieve "cold shutdown" by the end of the year — a first step toward creating a stable enough environment for work to proceed on removing the reactors' nuclear fuel and closing the plant altogether.

    The government estimates it will take 30 years or more to safely decommission Fukushima Dai-ichi.

    Wednesday's simulations depict what happened early in the crisis and do not mean a recent deterioration of the No. 1 reactor. Oyama said, however, the results are based only on available data and may not match the actual conditions inside the reactors, which cannot be opened for years.

    Some experts have raised questions about achieving the "cold shutdown," which means bringing the temperature of the pressure vessel containing healthy fuel rods to way below the benchmark 100 Celsius (212 Fahrenheit). They say the fuel is no longer there and measuring the temperature of empty cores is meaningless, while nobody knows where and how hot the melted fuel really is.

    Kiyoharu Abe, a nuclear expert at JNES, said it's too early to make a conclusion and more simulations should be done to get accurate estimates.

    "I don't think the simulation today was wrong, but we should look at this from various viewpoints rather than making a conclusion from one simulation," Abe said. "It's just the beginning of a long process."

     

    32 comments

    • Zot  •  Tampa, United States  •  5 mths ago
      And the story keeps changing.
    • TV TOM  •  5 mths ago
      PS: The Japanese local governments are accepting contaminated wast from Fukushima to burn locally!! This means they mess that is ejected into the air from this will contaminate even more of Japan...! Hokkaido, where I live at the moment, has not yet accepted garbage yet, but is 'thinking' about it... Japanese people do not seem to be able to grasp the seriousness of all this (not a big surprise, as they are THE most conformist group of individuals I have ever had the pleasure to meet) and so nothing happens, nobody protest or questions these mad decisions made by the Japanese government! I really wonder why our friends of GREENPEACE are not doing their job (i.e. PROTECTING THE PLANET!)?? They were intimidated earlier on (trying to get water samples 'near' the Fukushima plant) but I thought they don't mind kicking up some dirt every now and then!? If this situation is left to the TEPCO clowns and the inert Japanese political system, then Chernobyl was a walk in the park, and Japan will have to suffer the VERY SERIOUS consequences in 5 to 10 years time... MARK MY WORDS!!!
      • TV TOM 5 mths ago
        If my English is not perfect, it's because I AM NOT A NATIVE SPEAKER!!
      • Zozz 5 mths ago
        ._. your English was perfect. And I agree, they think this will go away in a year or two and acting like it's really no big deal. Not to long ago I watch a rep drink water from one of the basements of the reactor. That was a #$%$ fool move. People in the Ukraine and Belarus are still suffering from the Chernobyl accident. I'm pretty sure they would like to smack some sense into the Japanese. Show them a few tumors...force them to take a hint...
      • Bonsu 5 mths ago
        The vast majority of the contaminated waste will be the employee protection suits (essentially a thin layer of plastic or paper designed to prevent any 'hot' radioactive particles from being taken home or concentrating themselves on the workers) All suits are thrown away after a single use regardless of whether or not they actual have any radioactive junk on them or not. They are all (the radioactive and the not) treated as if they were all radioactive. Thus the vast majority of low level radioactive waste is not going to contain anything radioactive.

        For a few thousand $, you could burn it all in my backyard... But that would have prohibitive shipping costs, and my local and national government would require special licensing etc. and so it would be best to handle it locally.
    • TV TOM  •  5 mths ago
      LIES! LIES! ALL LIES! Of course the melted mess has not been miraculously stopped within a foot of the steel bottom! Nice one TEPCO (got it from a Hollywood movie script). TEPCO people are not capable of resolving this, they are just trying to keep face and act like they are in control. Japanese company can easily get away with lies and cover-ups (cfr. Olympus) and the Japanese politicians gladly turn a blind eye (for money!) The number three plant ejected much of its fuel (plutomium!) when it exploded, and that was spread all around the area, and much of the rest of the mess from the other 3 plants has already seeped into the ocean!! (BTW, thanks GREENPEACE for watching our back on this one...)
      I keep repeating myself: this is going to end in tears!!!!!
      PS: If you can't help yourself and feel this comment needs to get a thumbs-down, then I hope YOU have PROVE that all the above IS NOT happening....
      • TV TOM 5 mths ago
        If you don't live here (JAPAN) then don't bother to give me a 'smart' reply!! And don't ask me about 'my prove', cause this isn't a case of 'innocent until proven guilty' this is a case of 'presume the worst case scenario in the hope that we were wrong', but in case we were right, we will have saved A LOT of LIVES!!!!!
      • Bonsu 5 mths ago
        Imagine a large steel box, inside that box place an upside down light bulb structure made of 3 foot thick walls of reinforced concrete and a steel liner. Now place a nuclear core inside said light bulb. Fill the steel box with hydroden and ignite. That is all that happened in the spectacular explosions we saw. The Bulb according to these studies is supposedly still intact and all the plutonium is still in there. The only source of fuel (mostly depleted uranium with trace amounts of plutonium) were in the spent fuel pools, which even if the zirconium cladding ignited and burned, the uranium oxide has a significantly higher melting point, let alone vaporization point.

        The article was not saying that a steel liner miraculously stopped the molten fuel, but that one simulation suggests it had the possibility to have melted through to the foundation of the building (again not ejected into the air) and the TEPCO analysts believe that there is still a foot of concrete between where the fuel is and the miracle steel liner.

        Just thought I'd clarify, hope I wasn't being too 'smart.'

        I can't prove anything, but based on how the things are put together, you can draw some conclusions that suggest the Japanese government might not be out to get you.
    • Ross Hill  •  Newark, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Don't worry.....the problem will be completely resolved in 40,000 years when all the radioactive material has decayed.
    • Boredtotears  •  5 mths ago
      Now you can order glow in the dark sushi served by glow in the dark sushi chefs
    • WATCHEM  •  San Diego, United States  •  5 mths ago
      It is a shame that such a capable generating system's confidence is ruined because primary planning and warnings to protect the engine back up generators fuel tanks went unheeded at the time of construction. Had these precautions been satisfied, this would have been a non-event.
      • Bonsu 5 mths ago
        It's like buying a brand new luxury sports car and then putting a used oil filter on it to save a buck.
    • Chill Bill  •  Klamath Falls, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Makes me want to eat seafood from the Pacific Ocean!
    • japan  •  5 mths ago
      When do you stop believing the lies. Tepco sold the country for a mile of construction. That's what it would've taken to get the fukushima nuclear plant out of the tsunami's way. A well known tsunami area by the way. I'm really angry and I have to watch out for radiation pockests now. I think I'm having PTSD symptoms.
    • Bill Derberg  •  5 mths ago
      Alternative media said there was probably meltdowns on day 2 or 3. Conspiracy realists are always right, take that to the g.d. bank.
    • Sean  •  5 mths ago
      Back in March, I remember an interview with a Japanese official citing TEPCO's often erroneous information releases.
      He said: Whatever they admit to is usually 10 times worse then they say.
    • Cap'n Crazy John  •  Portland, United States  •  5 mths ago
      blah blah blah... just say it like it is...... the situation is phuked and not going to get better for a very very long time !
    • Petr  •  5 mths ago
      #$%$ BULLS.IT....!!!!
    • Redemption 87  •  Tokyo, Japan  •  5 mths ago
      Yeah, they do that type of stuff here! The citizens dont question anything!!!!!
    • TV TOM  •  5 mths ago
      The plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. said its latest simulation showed fuel at the No. 1 reactor may have eroded part of the primary containment vessel's thick concrete floor. "THAT'S GREAT!!" "GOOD NEWS!" "BUT: HOW ABOUT No.2-3-4 reactors, remember the ones that BLEW UP (2-3), or started to BURN (4)?!?
    • William  •  O'neals, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Simulations? Probably on the conservstive side. Always go to the worst case scenario and work from that level. Probably slagged the metal containment barrier.
    • .  •  5 mths ago
      Why are they reporting on simulations? Reality must be a lot worse!
    • Andy  •  Taipei City, Taiwan  •  5 mths ago
      This is by far worst than Chernobyl ever was and the Japanese goverment is not telling it's own people the truth. Expect all kinds of sicknesses in the next 10 years and beyond from this.
      • Bonsu 5 mths ago
        If by "all kinds" you mean, ulcers, heartburn, and other stress related diseases you are spot on. The only disease that can be linked to radiation exposure distributed in this manner (based on chernobyl) is thyroid cancer, which would only affect a small percentage of the people near the plant (and might not affect any if the government and TEPCO took the right steps in protecting the people). As far as Radiation Sickness, only the Workers on site need be concerned about that and they know what to avoid to prevent it (Hence regulatory limits on dose).
    • Little Cloud  •  Mililani, United States  •  5 mths ago
      Strange, all the worst case scenarios are being verified. Sure looks like Japan Inc. budgeted away safety.
    • American  •  5 mths ago
      Good reason to stop all nuclear fuel production and go to solar, wind, hydro.....BUT, wait, environmentalists are taking out all the hydro dams in america. Makes you wonder who is in charge!!!!!.
    • idontcare  •  5 mths ago
      Chernobyl: just 6 months to encase reactor and clean up debris.
      Fukushima: 9 months and still 75% of the site is exposed.
      Japan is a complete failure compared to USSR.
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