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    Supreme Court Hears Challenge to Stolen Valor Act

    Maj. David McCombs, a U.S. Marine who has served four tours overseas, stood out in the cold early morning Wednesday waiting for one of the few public seats in the Supreme Court hearing room.

    McCombs came to the Court to hear a case challenging the Stolen Valor Act, a law that makes it a crime to lie about receiving military awards.

    "The medal of honor is the highest medal that can be awarded," said McCombs. "I believe the medal itself represents the highest sacrifice someone can pay. To lie about such an honor is a disgrace."

    But some of high court justices struggled with what Justice Anthony Kennedy called the "slippery slope problem."

    Kennedy asked, for instance, about a lie concerning a college degree. Elena Kagan wondered about a law that could be passed to ban lies about extramarital affairs.

    Chief Justice John Roberts asked Solicitor General Donald B. Verrilli Jr., "Where do you stop? I mean, there are many things that people know about themselves that are objectively verifiable where Congress would have an interest in protecting."

    The law is being challenged in court by Xavier Alvarez, who, while serving as a public official in California, introduced himself to an audience by saying, "I'm a retired Marine for 25 years. I was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor."

    Alvarez had never even served in the military.

    As one of the first people prosecuted under the law, he was sentenced to three years probation, a $5,000 fine and community service.

    Inside court, Alvarez's federal public defender, Jonathan D. Libby, acknowledged to the justices that his client is a liar. But he said the Stolen Valor Act goes too far and violates the First Amendment.

    "The Stolen Valor Act criminalizes pure speech in the form of bare falsity, a mere telling of a lie," Libby said. "It doesn't matter whether the lie was told in a public meeting or in a private conversation with a friend or family member."

    The government argued that the law fits into a narrow category of speech that is unprotected by the First Amendment.

    Verrilli said the law "regulates a carefully limited and narrowly drawn category of calculated factual falsehoods. It advances a legitimate, substantial, indeed compelling governmental interest, and it chills no speech."

    Justice Sonia Sotomayor focused on the harm that a lie about military awards might cause.

    "You can't really believe that a war veteran thinks less of the medal that he or she receives because someone's claiming fraudulently that they got one," she told Verrilli. "I'm not minimizing it. I, too, take offense when people make these kinds of claims, but I take offense when someone I'm dating makes a claim that's not true."

    Verrilli said the statute is as "narrow as you can get" and stressed the importance of protecting the honor system.

    "What I think with respect to the government's interest here, and why there is a harm to that interest, is that the point of these medals is that it's a big deal," he said.

    "The honor system is about identifying the attributes, the essence, of what we want in our servicemen and women -- courage, sacrifice, love of country, willingness to put your life on the line for your comrades."

    Justice Antonin Scalia expressed support for the law.

    "When Congress passed this legislation, I assume it did so because it thought that the value of the awards that these courageous members of the armed forces were receiving was being demeaned and diminished."

    Justice Samuel Alito asked why a lie should receive First Amendment protection.

    "Do you really think that there is First Amendment value in a bald-faced lie about a purely factual statement that a person makes about himself because that person would like to create a particular persona?" he asked.

    "Yes, your honor," Libby said, "so long as it doesn't' cause imminent harm to another person or imminent harm to a government function."

    A lower court ruled in favor of Alvarez, saying that while society would be "better off if Alvarez would stop spreading worthless, ridiculous and offensive untruths," the law was "unconstitutionally applied to make a criminal out of a man who was proven to be nothing more than a liar."

    The case should be decided by the spring.

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    13 comments

    • Heath  •  Columbus, Ohio  •  3 mths ago
      if its legal to lie about receiving such awards... then it should also be legal for service men who actually put in the work for these honors to beat the #$%$ out of the liars
    • anon  •  3 mths ago
      so, the challenge to the stolen valor act is based upon the idea that we have the right to lie? or that we should have the right to lie? ok, so why bother to ever tell the truth, when it's easier to lie and lies are protected speech?

      what a joke!
    • Not Here  •  Harrisonville, Missouri  •  3 mths ago
      It's getting to where you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a phoney war hero. Sad. I think the Supreme Court and the people trying to defend the law are missing the boat entirely. It isn't really a Free Speech issue at all. There is no "Right to Lie", but there isn't a Law against it either. Once you start trying to make laws about it you are indeed on a slippery slope, as the Justices said. What there is a law about is misrepresenting something, including yourself for material gain. That includes Job applications, and should extend to the use of a false claim concerning government service to gain a public office. How is the office holder any different from the person filling out the application for the civil service job as his secretary? Is she/he held to a higher standard than the office holder? Isn't that a bit ridiculous? Where is that in the Constitution?
    • Curmudgeon  •  3 mths ago
      Sure, and it should be applied to public servants, ESPECIALLY members of Congress as a Felony with Mandatory Sentencing if they should lie to The People! Lie to a cop? You Go To Jail!!! Lie to the People? You get to be President, with other liars chanting "Four More Years! Four More Years!"
    • bear  •  Santa Rosa, California  •  3 mths ago
      Liar Liar pantelones afuego!
      • MarcD 3 mths ago
        Castaways. 1965. Great song. Debbie Harry did a remake.
    • MarcD  •  3 mths ago
      I served as President of the United States between 2008 and 2011. Okay, because there's a few people STUPID enough to believe that, then it's ME that should be prosecuted in federal court and sent to prison? (Especially when my statement MIGHT be true? Sure wouldn't have been screwed up any worse if I had.)
    • a  •  3 mths ago
      Pretty obvious from the judge comments that the law will be struck down. I'm seeing a 6-3 outcome.
    • T  •  3 mths ago
      It should also be a crime to claim to be qualified to run for president of the US when you're clearly not. This lie has cost us trillions in the last 3+ years. Not counting the vacations every other week.
    • Vet 60-64  •  3 mths ago
      Liberal whiners are used to lying. Let the courts sort this out. I think the valor liars will be dealt with in the bars and alleys of their towns. Homegrown justice is sometimes the only justice.
      Cut their lips off and have them swallow them..Find the next one, repeat..Problem over.
      • a 3 mths ago
        hey you worthless bigoted racist piece of #$%$ republican, you need to understand that liberals are against this law. this law is a conservative based one. Why else do you think Antonin Scalia supports it? He wants free speech regulated much like all evil fascist republicans do.
      • MarcD 3 mths ago
        So if liberals are against this law, why does Obama support it? Come on. We're waiting. Either you're wrong, or Obama is simply PANDERING. Like a pimp!
    • Pam B  •  Kingsland, Georgia  •  3 mths ago
      If telling a lie about your service record is NOT a punishable offense, then every job application should remove the perjury clause. There are laws that say you cannot present yourself as a physician, judge, policeman, airline pilot, ie positions that protect the lives of citizens, I believe a service member meets the same standard.
      • Paul W 3 mths ago
        With regards to the doctor, police, etc. thing, there are laws (and they're good laws) that prevent a person from representing themselves as these figures in situations where those services are required. It is not, however, illegal to tell a bunch of strangers who need no medical attention that you're a doctor, or brag about being an airline pilot in a bar when you're not. This guy's act was disgusting, but I am always of the opinion that the less the government limits what we can and can't say, the better.
      • a 3 mths ago
        You know what happens when you lie on a job application? You get fired. You don't go to jail. This law criminalizes the act of lying, and that is total #$%$
      • MarcD 3 mths ago
        I have no medical training WHATSOEVER. And if I represented myself as a doctor in a hospital environment, or even an office where I charged people for medical services, I'd be subject to arrest and incarceration. HOWEVER... you would not believe what women in bars are willing to SHOW me when I tell them I'm a gynecologist. It started out as a joke when one woman asked what I did for a living. As long as I make no medical diagnoses, I cannot be prosecuted for lying. (My stock answer has been, "You'll need to see your regular gynecologist about that.")
    • Christa  •  3 mths ago
      There is a fraud in my town of eugene oregon that builds cars and said he was a former Seal!! :-(
      • MarcD 3 mths ago
        But claiming to be a SEAL is not the same as claiming a MEDAL while being a SEAL. Gotta prosecute the IMPORTANT stuff, ya know.
    • Dewey  •  Overland Park, Kansas  •  3 mths ago
      A lot of politicians could go to jail if this law stands and is enforced. John Kerry must be sweating bullets.
    • Fed Up With Washington  •  Yüregir, Turkey  •  3 mths ago
      I suppose then that Senator John Kerry should be prosecuted for saying that he served the U.S., in Vietnam. True, he was in the Navy, but it has become abundantly clear that he only served himself, not the U.S.
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