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    Taiwan's China tourism gain in doubt as polls near

    TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) — Campaigning for office in 2008, Taiwan's president promised an economic windfall of $2 billion a year by opening the gates to Chinese tourism. If Taiwan's tourism bureau is to be believed, President Ma Ying-jeou has achieved precisely that as he heads into elections in January for a possible second term.

    But interviews by The Associated Press with industry officials and Taiwanese tour operators, and an examination of China's Taiwan tour packages, suggest that the figure has been overstated by at least $700 million. Questions about the accuracy of the government's claims could prove embarrassing to the China-friendly Ma as campaigning heats up.

    Tourism has been a big part of Ma's push to deepen links with China, and his re-election campaign is expected to once again tout the benefits of hitching the island's relatively small economy to China's lucrative markets.

    China claims Taiwan as part of its territory, 62 years after the two sides split amid civil war. While trade between the sides and Taiwanese investment in China has flourished for the past two decades, Chinese visitors were kept at arm's length until Ma took office in 2008.

    Ma reversed his predecessor's China-averse policies, initially sanctioning 300 Chinese arrivals a day. Until late June, when the first individual visitors crossed the 100-mile- (160-kilometer-) wide Taiwan Strait, all tourists had to come on tour packages.

    According to the Taiwan Tourism Bureau's Alice Chen, the Chinese tourist influx has meant big money for the island of 23 million people. Chen says that in 2010 some 1.16 million Chinese tourists spent NT$59.1 billion ($2 billion) in Taiwan, providing a substantial boost for an industry long in the doldrums.

    The bureau's figures, Chen says, were collated on the basis of interviews at airports with just 1,896 of the million-plus Chinese visitors, rather than relying on hard data from vendors of tourists services — hotels, restaurants, shopping venues and the like.

    In response to a query, Ma's spokesman, Fan Chiang Tai-chi, referred the AP back to the Tourism Bureau, whose deputy director general Wayne Liu repeatedly refused interview requests. Chen said she could not explain the discrepancies.

    On the Taiwanese side, tour operators say they are taking the brunt of the China revenue shortfall, operating at a loss and churning tourists through shops that promise hefty commissions on sales to claw back some profit.

    The government estimates that Chinese tourists spent an average of $246 a day on the island in 2010. That's made up of $142 for shopping and $104 for the services that are provided by tour package operators — hotels, meals, local transportation, venue admission and incidentals.

    But an examination of tour package prices shows they are much lower than the goverment's estimate and tour operators say that, at best, they get half of the money Chinese tourists pay to mainland tour agencies for these tours. That amounts to at least a $700 million hole in the government figure.

    On top of that, it is likely that some of the money Chinese tourists spend on shopping is ending up in Hong Kong, where the owners of some of the major Taiwanese shopping outlets are based.

    And at least until recently, a ruse involving special credit card readers that disguised the true location of purchases meant the government was cheated out of sales tax from Chinese tourists. Taiwanese authorities are now investigating this practice.

    The typical Taiwan tour lasts eight days and costs between 3,700 and 8,000 yuan ($574 to $1,240), depending on airfare from the Chinese point of embarkation.

    Tours that leave from China's Fujian province across the strait provide a good benchmark for working out the tour package cost excluding airfares. Spread over eight days — and assuming $100 for transportation across the strait — the package averages out to $60 per day.

    Taiwanese tour operators say their Chinese counterparts now offer them as little $20 per tourist per day, which is far below the $50-55 they say they are spending to procure hotel rooms, meals, and other services for their Chinese customers.

    This is forcing operators to provide substandard tours, said Fauzy Wu, an official at Taiwan International Tour Manager Development Association who once supported closer tourist links with China.

    These feature cut-rate hotels, greasy spoon meals, endless bus rides from one out-of-the-way hotel to the next, and nonstop visits to glitzy shopping venues that promise high commissions of as much as 50 percent to operators.

    "Chinese tourists are getting up earlier than roosters, eating worse than pigs, and are totally exhausted from spending most of their days on intercity buses," Wu said.

    Opposition presidential candidate Tsai Ing-wen and her Democratic Progressive Party charge that Ma and his ruling Nationalists have sold Taiwan short in their bid to draw Taiwan's economy ever closer to China's. The tourism problems could buttress those arguments.

    They might also be problematic for China. Beijing is far more partial to Ma than the DPP, which it reviles for its theoretical stand in favor of formal Taiwanese independence.

    The Taiwan operators say their current business model has been foisted on them by tour operators from the Chinese territory of Hong Kong. These Hong Kong operators comprise only 13 of the 300 operators the Taiwan government sanctions to receive Chinese tourists on the island, but rake in some 50 percent of the take.

    Local operators say their Hong Kong counterparts have leveraged their familiarity with the Chinese tourist market and the lack of restrictions placed upon them by the Taiwan government to dominate business.

    "Hong Kong has the worst group tour business model," said travel agency proprietor Hsu Chin-rui, who is also chairman of a cross-strait travel association. "We do not welcome their agents here."

    Hsu says the problems with Chinese tourism don't end there.

    At least half of the 164 Chinese tour agencies allowed to sign up customers to visit Taiwan have poor payment records and Taiwanese tour operators are owed about NT$5 billion ($169.5 million).

    The Tourism Bureau says it's powerless to fix the situation.

    Taiwanese tour guide Jack Lee complained about the late payments and said they were having a knock-on effect on tour guides like himself, as Taiwanese agencies were failing to pay subcontractors on time.

    "I myself am owed NT$300,000 ($10,350)," Lee said. "And there are many others like me."

     

    33 comments

    • Carl Shieffer  •  10 mths ago
      Why does AP hate a good cross strait relationship?
      • Nick Dobson 10 mths ago
        Quite the contrary, Carl. The AP is usually gushingly positive about Ma's policies of rapprochement however the figures don't lie, his policies are failing to have an impact domestically.
      • Highway to Yaeweh 10 mths ago
        Not sure how its failing..its like saying obama is failing. Well yes he is because, everybody is opposed to his presidency.

        Ma's policies are working except the taiwanese is falling behind of S.Korea.

        But, not to worry the taiwanese are getting richer with their factories in China.

        They are making a killing on US/China trade. As the middleman. Of course those type of jobs are rare and the ones that get it are raking in the dough.
      • Spice 10 mths ago
        Seems China doesn't want to be tourists in what they perceive as theirs!!
    • j m  •  10 mths ago
      Instead of blaming the tour operators in HK, the taiwanren should look at themselves in the mirror. Taiwanren and their media always talked down to mainlanders and too many are very rude to the mainlanders. What does taiwan has that mainland doesn't? There is nothing special in taiwan that would be considered "exotic" to other Chinese or not available in Fujin anyway.
      • Carl Shieffer 10 mths ago
        JM, to be very honest, the people on the Taiwan Island are very or more polite to mainlanders than those from HK.
      • Highway to Yaeweh 10 mths ago
        Carl to be honest Taiwan visitors/businessmen are the most rude and corrupt in China.

        Since they got the bucks they go whoring, gamble and bribe.

        Hey that sounds exactly like what the mainlanders do...except most mainlanders don't have the bucks.
      • Spice 10 mths ago
        freedom is what Taiwan has and the Mainlanders will never have under the communist regime of 80 million!
    • Adam  •  10 mths ago
      I teach English in Taiwan. For better or worse, many of my Taiwanese students stereotype mainlanders as having rude habits, such as spitting on the sidewalk and cutting line.
      • Wellsaid 10 mths ago
        If you are talking about "cutting line", Adam, you should come to Fulton County DFCS office in Georgia , and see how the blacks do it....
    • Carl Shieffer  •  10 mths ago
      The Taiwanese do not hate those on the Mainland. The Western media try to make it look like that way.
      • ruprecht 10 mths ago
        The Western media isn't saying that Taiwanese people hate Mainland Chinese. There are valid concerns over cross-strait relations and there are growing pains in developing the tourist industry in Taiwan. The media looks at the other side of the issue because the Ma administration won't point out the drawbacks and problems. Saying that there are problems in cross-strait relations is not saying that Taiwanese hate Mainlanders. I've lived in Taiwan for 4 years so I see this issue clearly.
    • Danny  •  10 mths ago
      Money is not the problem with Chinese Mainlanders who go to Taiwan. It is the negative reporting by those who do not want good Taiwan & Mainland relations. This hurts US interest in the region, is the reason why. Mainlanders spend lots of money in Los Angeles without blinking, so their spending power is not an issue. Secondly, Mainlanders are comparing Taiwan & Mainland China as tourism targets, to be fair, Taiwan does not match up too well. Los Angeles is different & the Chinese are willing to splurge. Unfortunately in the eyes of Chinese Mainlanders today, China has surpassed Taiwan in many fronts and the Chinese competition target is the USA. Taiwanese are sneaky & scroupulous fellows who may cheat the tax loop, so what out the Taiwanese citizentry.
    • Dawnic Tung  •  10 mths ago
      I am a Chinese mainlander,why I am indignant when seeing the politically motivated words which US goverment orders AP to print out?I hate all the internal rules between Goverments and media all around the world,it cheat the Simple Soul of ours!
      what is the truth behind between Chinese mainland and Taiwan,between east and west etc?
      Gosh~ even tourism between Chinese mainland and Taiwan are bad?! what do you want to get AP?
      it is more and more difficult to find the truth if we perceive through some unhonest media-window!
      GOD,help me~
      • Carl Shieffer 10 mths ago
        You are not Chinese.
      • Dawnic Tung 10 mths ago
        I am really really a Chinese (College student) ~ T-T
      • Spice 10 mths ago
        sorry about your luck Tung!
    • Rain  •  10 mths ago
      Heh, if they got nothing to gain, they wouldnt be doing this bussiness, the entire article are politically motivated to only tell the negative part of the story, did you see a single positive part mentioned here? what a joke, free to #$%$ media again at its work, political brainwash at its best.
    • cainiao  •  10 mths ago
      Conquering without firing a shot.
    • steve  •  10 mths ago
      Looks like Ma has attended the Washington DC School of Accounting.
    • Wellsaid  •  10 mths ago
      Wow, even tourism can be a politic topic for Yah@@. Why would America Press worry about business between Mainland and Taiwan?
    • Danny  •  10 mths ago
      In comparing Taiwan and China today, is like comparing a MOM & POP HOTEL with HOLIDAY INN hotel chain. Personally, I remembered in the days(20 years ago) that Chinese Americans look down on Chinese Mainlanders. Let me tell you, it is humbling (1) when they score higher than Chinese Americans on SATs (2) when they look down on you because you cannot speak Chinese (3) when you go to China & see they live happier lives than you (4) when their net-worth is higher than yours in $US at below age 40 (5) They shame you when they find jobs easily because they can navigate in both English & Chinese seemlessly. Funny thing is we are so proud of our DEMOCRACY but 75% of Americans don't vote. If we do vote, issues are marketed so stealthy that we cannot understand or our vote does matter that much because of corporate special interest bribe politicians. Democracy does not equate to wealth, it equates only to make the individual citizentry feel participative, that is it. As we will find out soon, the American Austerity Plan will hit us hard. Greeks have rocks to throw but have guns to blast. Last thing our govt wants are an angry Americans in the US. It is OK to be ugly American when you are overseas.
    • GW  •  10 mths ago
      The mainland Chinese must really love Taiwan. The fact that the KMT have been overstaying their welcome since 1949 proves it.
    • Fishless  •  10 mths ago
      "China claims Taiwan as part of its territory, 62 years after the two sides split amid civil war".

      "Claims" it said.

      Everyone with the correct knowledge of history would know that is a fact, not just a claim. If wasn't the military intervene of the U.S. at the end of the Chinese Civil war, there would be only one side, not two... today.
    • MichaelR  •  10 mths ago
      I hope that things will be better between China and Taiwan :). Have fun and faith in God.
    • Fan  •  10 mths ago
      I don't understand why would any Mainlanders go to Taiwan for anything. There's plenty of southeast Asian countries with better attractions at cheaper price. Since Taiwanese hate China so much, why not just man up and boycott China? Go get American tourists to go to Taiwan since Taiwanese loves them so much. Stop talk like a virgin, act like a #$%$
    • Leaf  •  10 mths ago
      Ma is China's Trojan House into Taiwan. The guy is an idiot, wasting tax-payers money by attending Food competitions and awarding winners who make the best Pineapple Cake in Taiwan.

      He can't even solve any domestic issues
    • j m  •  10 mths ago
      Not to belabor my point but too many Taiwanren think that the mainlanders are dying to visit Taiwan. They put rediculous restrictions on mainland students to attend universities in Taiwan. They think that they will be overrun with mainland students. Well, guess what, there was absolutely no demand to attend the Taiwanren universities. In contrast, universities in Hong Kong has no restriction and actively recruit and offer full scholarships with living stipent (hundreds of thousand dollars a year)to mainland students. In the last couple of years, the best and brightest mainland students declined admission to Beijing University or Tsinghua to attend univeristies in HK. That's why mainlanders flock to HK.
    • NoO  •  10 mths ago
      Uh, it's the Taiwanese tour operators' fault for accepting the business model offered to them by Hong Kong operators. They could collaborate with any of the other 287 mainland tour operators to implement a marketing plan, especially in areas such as Shenzhen, Shanghai, and Beijing, where disposable income is substantially higher than the rest of the country, but also have the highest population mass.In the end, it's not that Ma's policies are failing, but rather Taiwanese tour operators don't know their #$%$ from their elbows when it comes to sound business sense. They need to learn from other Taiwanese companies such as Acer and Asus on how to properly manage a business.Lastly, even if the initial figures are $0.7 billion short of $2 billion, that's still an extra $1.3 billion that Taiwan would otherwise not have. AP hates the fact that peace is taking its course along with warming relations between China and Taiwan. Without Taiwan, our government loses a pawn in its China containment strategy. That's why Clinton is touring the SE Asia region like an insurance salesperson to drum up support from formerly anti-US nations.
    • frank  •  10 mths ago
      AP STANDS FOR AMERICAN PROPAGANDA....
    • JD  •  10 mths ago
      The ROC president is the Chinese Obama.
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