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    Texas Emergency Rooms and Elsewhere Levy Fees for Some Care

    Talk about adding insult injury. More and more U.S. emergency rooms won't admit patients until they pony up a fee of $100 dollars or more for nonemergencies.

    The fees are meant to discourage people suffering from nothing worse, say, than a sore throat or a skinned knee from taking up time and resources better reserved for the seriously ill.

    Both for-profit and non-profit hospitals are levying the charge.

    Ed Fishbough, spokesman for the nation's biggest for-profit chain, HCA Healthcare in Nashville, Tenn., says the company first started imposing such fees in 2004, at one of its Houston-area hospitals.

    The practice has since spread to 76 other hospitals in the 163-hospital chain. The purpose, he says, is to "help reduce crowding in the ER and to educate people about appropriate use of ER resources."

    Critics of ER fees include the American College of Emergency Physicians, which says that 2 to 7 percent of patients determined to have nonemergency conditions are admitted to a hospital within 24 hours.

    Patient advocacy groups, likewise, blast the policy, saying it discourages the sick from seeking help. "It seems the point of the policy is to put a financial barrier between the patient and care," Anthony Wright, executive director of advocacy group Health Access California, told Kaiser.

    Either way, here's how it works at HCA:

    You show up at the ER wanting treatment. A clinician checks you out, and decides whether your case qualifies as a true emergency. If it doesn't, but if you want to stay in the ER and get treated there anyway, you are asked to pay a fee, which, at HCA, runs between $100 and $150.

    Pregnant women, children younger than 6 and people older than 64 are exempt.

    HCA says it had 6 million emergency room visits at its hospitals last year. Of those, 314,000 (about 5 percent) were from people who, after screening, were determined not to have an emergency condition. They were offered the choice of paying the fee and remaining in the ER for treatment, or leaving and seeking treatment at what HCA calls a "more appropriate setting," such as a clinic or doctor's office. About 233,000 patients chose to stay and pay. About 80,000 didn't, and took a hike. It's unknown where they ended up.

    Such ER fees are common now at other big, for-profit chains (including Health Management Associates of Florida, and Community Health Systems of Tennessee) and nonprofit hospitals, as well.

    Tomi Galin, vice president for corporate communications at Community Health Systems, says patients who choose to leave "are provided with information about other community health resources for their non-emergency medical conditions." Imposing a fee, she argues, helps reduce costs for the patient and the hospital alike because "the ER is the highest cost environment to receive non-emergency care."

    The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says patients with non-urgent problems account for about 8 percent of ER visits. Other studies have put the figure considerably higher. One by Health Affairs policy journal in 2010 concluded it was closer to 27 percent.

    The non-profit Midland Memorial Hospital in Texas implemented a $150 ER fee in 2009, as part of an exercise in cost-control, according to a Kaiser Health News story. Kaiser says the hospital had lost $14 million in 2008, in part because of millions of dollars in ER bills left unpaid.

    Since imposing its fee, the hospital has seen a drop in debt, according to its chief financial officer, whom Kaiser quotes. He estimates that about 75 percent of patients with nonemergency conditions leave the hospital rather than pay the fee. "More people now know," he says, "that our ER is not a walk-in clinic or a primary-care office."

    Jay Keltner, spokesman for the Healthcare Financial Management Association, which represents health care financial executives, told ABC News his organization has no estimate for the amount of money hospitals that have imposed ER fees might be saving.

    He does say, though, that focus groups conducted by the FMA find that consumers increasingly want to know in advance what their medical services will cost. "They don't like to be surprised on the back end," he said.

    A hospital's delaying talking to patients about cost, he believes, serves no good purpose. If the conversation happens early on, as when an ER fee is charged, the patient and the hospital can both confront how the final bill will be paid. If the patient cannot pay, he said, then the sooner the hospital can try to get him or her financial assistance, the better.

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    • Rickie  •  3 mths ago
      Emergency rooms are not clinics. They are for EMERGENCIES.
      • karela 3 mths ago
        And supposedly for any American who is ill but has no money.
      • . 3 mths ago
        Where are you supposed to go if you can't afford a doctor? The ER is the place of last resort for many.
    • integrator  •  Springdale, Arkansas  •  3 mths ago
      They should put an after hours or 24 hour clinic in next to the ER. If it's not an emergency, send them down the hall to wait for however long it takes. Then the ER can be for real emergencies.
      • worldonfire 3 mths ago
        Not a bad idea. Now if only we could get the Administrators to cough up some cash to build one!
      • MICHAEL 3 mths ago
        all they have to do is put a couple of family practice in a couple of rooms next to er, and they can do that
      • Just Me, Richard 3 mths ago
        Most hospitals I know of already do. But people still want to go to the ER, in an ambulance, when nothing is wrong that wouldn't wait until the next day
    • BBeq  •  3 mths ago
      I'd feel bad for them, but I have health insurance and the ER is a $100 copay for me unless I'm admitted to the hospital. Seems fair. I'd like to see more 24/7 clinics open for the minor stuff.
    • Robert Gary  •  3 mths ago
      I've never had less than a $100 copay when visitng the emergency room. That's why you don't go to the ER for a skinned knee.
      • . 3 mths ago
        If it's infected and you don't have insurance or money, you do.
    • Another View  •  3 mths ago
      I wonder what part of 'emergency' is so difficult to understand?
      Hospitals could solve this problem very simply by establishing walk in clinics that don't carry all overhead of the entire institution and would offer basic care for basic prices.
    • That Guy  •  Bellevue, Washington  •  3 mths ago
      Personal Responsiblity
    • Cougin It  •  3 mths ago
      I'd happily leave if a clinician told me that it wasn't an emergency. That's all I really want to know.
    • Lindsey  •  Waco, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      I work in an ER, this is a wonderful idea! Hospitals will always err on the side of caution to avoid liability, but the people who don't need emergency medical treatment will be turned away. It is so sad to see people who are hurt or in actual life threatening situations have to wait because five minutes ago mom brought her six kids in for a sniffle that only one child has. People would not believe how often the ER is abused- hell, I didn't before I worked here.
    • John and Linda  •  Los Angeles, California  •  3 mths ago
      They definitely needed to do something. Last visit to the ER for me (for a blood clot) took over 7 hours to see a doctor. And another poor guy was sitting near me for as long with an obviously broken arm.
    • John Galt  •  3 mths ago
      Sounds reasonable to me. You want a service you really don't need, pay up...come to think of it, you want a service you do need you should still pay up.
    • Christy  •  3 mths ago
      Do illegals that already get free medical have to pay this fee? or just us white hard working tax paying folks
    • Jj  •  3 mths ago
      One solution: instead of doctors working office hours Mon-Thurs, 9:00 to 4:30 (with a two hour lunch break), they partnered with other doctors to maintain longer hours everyday?
    • GIRTS  •  Houston, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      GOOD. And, by the way, little Jose's sniffles do not constitute an emergency.
    • Kevin V  •  3 mths ago
      I think this is a good idea. If a medical professional evaluates and sees that a person is in the ER because of a minor condition, tell them that and let them go to an urgent-care clinic. If it is after-hours, the nurse or whoever can determine whether they can wait until normal hours at a clinic. An ER, with limited beds and advanced equipment, really needs to be reserved for the very sick. If a person just needs an IV for fluids because they have the flu, that can be done at a clinic.
    • Annoyed  •  3 mths ago
      I remember when the hospital I worked at split out their ER into a true ER for MIs and car wrecks and a Fastrack area for splinters and small booboos and other little stuff that needs fixed but not with major care. You got triaged and then either sent to the ER or to the Fastrack - and the Fastrack would take a copay right then and there (and get your insurance or other info.) They'd pull your splinter, get you out faster, and you weren't holding up any monitored beds or other equipment. It also handled 3 times as many patients and didn't lose money from the first year it opened. Maybe that's something more hospitals need to do when they can. . . it still runs sweetly there and wait times have stayed amazingly low, unlike my visit last night at another hospital, where I did wait several hours for people to get shifted out of the way. Thankfully, I needed care, but nothing hugely horrible, so I could wait a while, but boy I was glad to finally go back and barf in a better bucket. . .
    • KaraW  •  3 mths ago
      I had to pay $100 copay for an ER visit in the middle of the night (the clinic wasn't open) for my son 6 mo old son who had croup. The next time he woke up with croup, we knew what to do and it was a visit to the doctor in the morning. The next time (yes he's prone to croup) it was a phone visit with the doctor. The next time, it was an email in the afternoon to request his medicine. By this time, the doctor knew we knew when we should and shouldn't give the medicine.
    • Michael  •  3 mths ago
      Abut time. Every city has urgent care, nighttime clinics, nighttime pediatrics and homeless health care clinics. That's where many belong. We all pay the price of the improper usage of the ER. I had an emergency last year. Doctor costs (including the ER Physician) X-Rays, Cat Scan, and medications were pretty reasonable. What wasn't reasonable was the hospital's "Facilities Charge" For an 8 hour stay in the ER, it was $12,476. Other than the ER Doc, X-rays, and scans, the only things in the er I used was an exam room and the bathroom. A little excessive I think.
    • Just an opinion  •  3 mths ago
      Many people are missing the point. The fee is only paid by those who go to the EMERGENCY ROOM for NON-emengency and still want treatment after it is determined they DO NOT have an emergency. If the person thought about it they probably could find a doctor for less than $100. I know an office visit with our doctor is $85. Why would I stay at an ER and pay $100?
    • Jennifer  •  Dallas, Texas  •  3 mths ago
      I absolutely believe many people abuse ERs because they have no insurance and know that they can't be turned away. A few of the people who worked under me used the ER option since our company didn't put you on health insurance for six months but required doctor's notes to excuse medical absences. Catch-22, huh? So they'd go to the emergency room and never pay the bill. Problem solved without losing their jobs or being out any pocket money.

      I see both sides, but I don't think it's right to screw everyone else since we make up those shortages by getting charged more. On the other hand, it sucks to be broke with no insurance and to work for a company who wouldn't insure any employees (except the suits) if they could get away with it.
    • between the lines  •  3 mths ago
      Try catching your doctor after 5 or on weekends these days. You might locate one of those after hours clinics, if one is to be found. Let's face it, our medical care system is outdated.
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