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    TV: Israel agrees to negotiate over pre-'67 lines

    JERUSALEM (AP) — In a dramatic policy shift, Israel's prime minister has agreed to negotiate the borders of a Palestinian state based on the cease-fire line that marks off the West Bank, a TV station reported Monday.

    Up to now, Benjamin Netanyahu has refused to spell out his plan for negotiating the border. A senior Israeli official would not confirm outright that the prime minister was now willing to adopt the cease-fire line as a starting point, but said Israel was willing to try new formulas to restart peace talks based on a proposal made by President Barack Obama.

    In a speech about the Middle East in May, Obama proposed negotiations based on the pre-1967 line with agreed swaps of territory between Israel and a Palestinian state. Netanyahu reacted angrily, insisting that Israel would not withdraw from all of the West Bank, though that was not what Obama proposed.

    Now Netanyahu is basically accepting that framework, according to Channel 2 TV, offering to trade Israeli territory on its side of the line for West Bank land where its main settlements are located.

    The official, who has been briefed on the talks, spoke on condition of anonymity because the contacts are still in progress. He said he would not deny the TV report, while refusing to confirm the specifics. He emphasized that Israel would not withdraw from all of the West Bank.

    "We are willing in a framework of restarting the peace talks to accept a proposal that would contain elements that would be difficult for Israel and we would find very difficult to endorse," he said, answering a question about the Obama proposal.

    Part of the reason, he said, was that Israel is seeking to persuade the Palestinians to drop their initiative to win U.N. recognition of their state next month, something the Palestinians are doing out of frustration with stalled peace efforts.

    Palestinian officials said they had not received such a proposal from Israel.

    Palestinians have demanded that Israel stop construction in its West Bank settlements and east Jerusalem before peace talks resume. Netanyahu wants talks with no preconditions where issues like settlements and borders would be discussed, along with his insistence that the Palestinians recognize Israel as a Jewish state.

    The cease-fire line that marks the West Bank dates to the 1949 end of the two-year war that followed the creation of Israel. It held until June 1967, when Israel captured the West Bank, Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem, claimed by the Palestinians.

    Palestinians and most of the world consider the 1967 lines a border, while Israel has always held that it was just a temporary truce line that does not dictate the location of the border.

    Previous Israeli governments have accepted the cease-fire line as the basis for talks, and the two sides came close to agreement twice in the past decade before talks broke down over other matters.

    Thorny issues like sharing Jerusalem and the fate of Palestinian refugees would remain after the border issue is resolved, but U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has said that setting a border would defuse the explosive settlement issue by determining which of the enclaves would become part of Israel and which would not.

    In the absence of an agreement to return to negotiations, the Palestinians are moving ahead with their U.N. recognition initiative. While a vote in the General Assembly would be symbolic and not legally binding, the Palestinians believe any international endorsement will isolate Israel and improve their position if negotiations resume.

    Palestinian officials said Monday they plan to begin mass marches against Israel's occupation of the West Bank on Sept. 20, the eve of the U.N. vote.

    Palestinian official Yasser Abed Rabbo said leaders hope to attract millions, and the protest will be the first of a prolonged effort. He said the campaign would be called "Palestine 194," since the Palestinians hope to become the 194th member of the United Nations.

    "The appeal to the U.N. is a battle for all Palestinians, and in order to succeed, it needs millions to pour into streets," he said.

    ___

    Associated Press writers Mark Lavie in Jerusalem and Mohammed Daraghmeh in Ramallah, West Bank, contributed to this report.

     

    1,313 comments

    • jtheat  •  9 mths ago
      Allright Hamas and Fatah... here is your chance to elevate your status in the UN and the rest of the world. Call Isreal on their statement. Swear off violence and state bodly that your recognize Isreal right to exist. Then go to negotiation with the upper hand. Otherwise, you will be dealt the hand you have no choice to accept. Your choice.. The high road or continual conflict..
      • Koranus 9 mths ago
        Don't hold your breath waiting for terrorists to do the honest thing....it's impossible
      • jtheat 9 mths ago
        Hey, the cards are on the table. They can either pick the cards up or pick up a gun..
      • ksmike 9 mths ago
        Netanyahu is ready to talk about talking. Whoop de do. That's all he is a hot air and lies. Hamas is pretty low on the totem poll, but when compared with thieves and liars of right-wing Isreal, can you really tell which one is the bad guy?
    • y  •  9 mths ago
      Reality check. stop spamming the comments and answer my one question. Was palestine ever a state?
      • A Yahoo! User 9 mths ago
        states must reflect ethnic or religious backgrounds not imperialistic legacies
      • MAD SCIENTIST 9 mths ago
        NO
      • ChrisT 9 mths ago
        was anything ever a state before Westphalia? Seriously. the "Nation State" concept is western and relatively new. Was there an Israeli state before 1948? No
    • Hans WilliS  •  9 mths ago
      Casla, the answer to your question is Yes to both. Israel is a democracy and a jewish state. Democracy that follows the British rules, like a President the same way as the Queen of England and a Prime Minister who does just like the Prime Minister of England. Jewish State meaning it respects the Jewish laws, just as well as others, christians, muslims, and other religions are free to practice with no persecution what so ever.
    • Slayer  •  9 mths ago
      Well I never thought I'd hear this.
      • alanm 9 mths ago
        Why, it's been the basis of talks for over a decade? It was offered several times before in the form of a deal.
    • Craig  •  9 mths ago
      i love how a country that is 12 miles long gets the world in such an uproar. oh yeah thats right its cause they are jews and evweryone knows that since the jewish population of the world is 0.3 % the must run everything. they are surrounded by enemies that only want their destruction and wont even recognize their right to exist as a jewish country while there are over 57 islamic countries. oh those evil jews.
      • ANS 9 mths ago
        Craig the Israeli Jew, First there are 600 Million Jews, it is in your nature to play victim! You beg $3.5 Billion dollars per month from us. You destroyed US Liberty. You spy on us and sell the secrets to Chinese. You have taken land illegally. I don’t know where you live in trailer Park? what if I come and throw you out wont you fight?
      • Khalil 9 mths ago
        Do you know how ignorant you sound. Do some research before you spew such nonsense You act like theres 1 million Jews with no home when in actuality theres 1 million Palestinians who have been kicked out of there home over false biblical justification that they had a right to kick people out of there homes cause This land was theres centuries ago, Thats like the Native American coming back and sayinf hey the US is ours so were taking it back, or the Dutch going back to Africa and saying this land was our before so were taking it back, Yeah right. Every People on this earth has a right to exist
      • Larry 9 mths ago
        Khalil, why is it Israel's responsibility to take care of the Palestinian refugees?

        The Palestinian Arabs living their before 1948 were told to leave by their so-called Arab brothers while they "pushed all of the Jews in to the sea." Those people bet on the destruction of the Jewish state and lost. But they remained refugees because your Arab brothers in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, kept them that way. They view them as nothing more than political pawns. Look at what King Hussein of Jordan did to Arafat's PLO Palestinians in 1970.

        And how dare you call someone else ignorant. Close to 900,000 Arab Jews were expelled or executed around the same time from Middle East and North African countries. But do you know why there are not "1 million Jews with no home," because Israel gave them a home and they started over and built a beautiful country.

        Palestinians are victims because they choose to remain victims. I have zero sympathy for them.
    • Erin  •  9 mths ago
      where exactly is palestine? can someone find me a map that shows where it is or was. having a little trouble.
      • Hogfather 9 mths ago
        Its an imaginary concept. There has never really been a country by that name, though various borders have been defined as such in the Roman, Byzantine, and Ottoman Empire.
      • Erin 9 mths ago
        so it never was? so palestians never really were? hmmmmm.........
      • Erin 9 mths ago
        so the "pali's" just made all this up?
    • Honest John  •  9 mths ago
      I have always said that the starting point to these negotiations should be Jerusalem. If you can make everyone happy there, you can make everyone happy everywhere. Settle Jerusalem and the rest will fall into place.
    • MidWestCoast  •  9 mths ago
      Can't wait for the day when the moldy dome implodes. It never belonged there. See what Israel got for being kind back then? Muslims now blaming Jews for allowing that flea filled building to be born.
    • Erin  •  9 mths ago
      let's see if i got this straight........all the arab countries attack isreal and get their #$%$ handed to them and isreal is supposed to give up the land (spoils) they captured. to the victor go the spoils, not the losers!!! that's the way war works. besides i've been looking for "palistine" on the the world map and can't seem to find it anywhere on any map, old or new. did it ever exist? also, isn't the dome of the rock built on top of the temple of david. seems the jews were there first.
    • TruthandNotingBut  •  9 mths ago
      Some wise Muslim posted this: "the land Israel stole in 1967." As if Israel jumped over the fence while Palestine was sleeping and stole a few square miles of land. They won it in a battle, duh.
    • Jack Random  •  9 mths ago
      expand the borders, the jews should rule the muddled east. if it werent for oil, they would all be living in tents. the cultists are certainly not industrious. stagnated for 1000s of years by cult slavery. you would be doing them a favor.
    • MOTW  •  9 mths ago
      A Jamaican man bought a round of drinks for everyone in the bar, announcing that his wife had just given birth to "a typical Jamaican baby boy weighing 20 pounds."

      Congratulations showered him from all around, and many exclamations of "Wow!" were heard. A woman fainted due to sympathy pains.

      Two weeks later, he returned to the bar. The bartender said, "Say, you're the father of the Jamaican baby who weighed 20 pounds at birth. How much does he weigh now?"

      The proud father answered, "Fifteen pounds."

      The bartender was puzzled. "Why? What happened? He weighed 20 pounds at birth?"

      The Jamaican father took a slow sip from his Red Stripe beer, wiped his lips on his shirtsleeve, leaned into the bartender and said, "Had him circumcised."
    • PAUL REVERE  •  9 mths ago
      The United States of Israel: Admiral Thomas Moorer, former Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, has spoken with blunt exasperation about the Jewish-Israeli hold on the United States. "I've never seen a President -- I don't care who he is -- stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn't writing anything down. If the American people understood what a grip those people have got on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens certainly don't have any idea what goes on."
      EMAIL THE WHITE HOUSE AND YOUR STATE REPS..
      TELL THEM TO GET AIPAC OUT OF OUR GOVERNMENT
      AND OUT OF THE POCKETS OF OUR POLITICIANS
    • Casla  •  9 mths ago
      Is Israel a Democracy or a Jewish State?
    • 3E5U  •  9 mths ago
      Don't give them a thing, Israel. They'll only want more.
    • PAUL REVERE  •  9 mths ago
      The United States of Israel: "Is there any criminal act that Israel can do without being protected from criticism from the United States? If there is I haven't seen it. And I haven't seen it from the Bush Administration or from the Clinton Administration or from any administration before them.
      But when you consider the influence of Israel's lobby and its political action committees and the more than $41 million they've given to Congress and the White House, is it any wonder Israel is shielded from any shame?"
      --U.S. Brigadier General James J. David (Ret.)
      EMAIL THE WHITE HOUSE AND YOUR STATE REPS..
      TELL THEM TO GET AIPAC AND ISRAELI INFLUENCE OUT OF OUR GOVERNMENT
      AND OUT OF THE POCKETS OF OUR POLITICIANS
    • noonesmudduck  •  9 mths ago
      One question.How many Jews were celebrating in the streets after 9/11?THINK PEOPLE!!!
    • _  •  9 mths ago
      How long until the Muslims attack Israel through Palestine again?
    • Jeff  •  9 mths ago
      Does anything the West/Israel do compares with the atrocities performed by Muslims?
      Not even close.
      Muslims, tortured and beheaded Daniel Pearl in Pakistan, Muslims tortured and murdered Marine Lt. Col. William Higgins in Lebanon, Muslims ran blood-spattered Al Qaeda torture rooms our troops found in Iraq, Muslims cut off the heads of schoolgirls in Indonesia, because the girls were Christian,
      Muslims stone teenage rape victims to death for adultery. These are just few of daily examples of Muslim world wide brutality.
    • wanda  •  9 mths ago
      Pray for the peace of Jerusalem
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